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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: SOB on April 18, 2006, 08:43:29 PM
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He's generally worthless as far as I'm concerned, but in this instance I'm actually a bit impressed...even if I think Rumsfeld should be ****canned. No *****footing around from Bush, just a strait answer - It's my decision, and Rummy is staying...end of discussion.
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That man sure knows how to decisionize.
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teh_deciderer pwnz
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"Oh ya? ... If Rummy goes; I go."
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In situations like this I aways ask myself,"WWVD" (What would Viper do?).
Viper would say, "You made a decision...you made a dicision and broke a major rule of engagement.".
I'm surprised at how easily impressed you are SOB. He sounds tough, but that is no way to foster concencous. Not only that but he is an employee, he owes the US citizenry a much fuller explaination for his decision. If one of my elected employees ever tried to pull a stunt like that I would do my best to ****-can him. Of course chances are he would be ripped to shreds in question period anyway.
Whenever someone makes a definitive declaration and refuses explanation I always wonder if it's because thier explanations are weak.
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I'm easily impressed because I have low expectations. Watch Meet The Press sometime and pay attention to how the political sweethearts "answer" any direct questions that approach being difficult or might force them to take any sort of real position. Having one of the sweethearts be direct and not leave you wondering "WTF did he just say?" is a nice sight to see. I suppose it doesn't take away from the fact that he's an otherwise worthless heap of garbage, but still, a little bit of credit where credit is due.
If it makes you feel better, I'm sure I'll be saying horrible things about him the next time I see him on the news. It's inevitable.
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I don't think anyone will vote for him for Prez next time, that's for sure!
Even if he is The Decisionator.
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LOL
Seriously though, somebody is sure to vote for him as a write-in. Hell, I'm sure Eagler will be voting in the next election.
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inability to admit mistake <> ability to make a decision
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Did he stomp his feet when he declared that?
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Bush is comfortable with himself, thats obvious.....I recall back to Bill Cintons 6th
year as as president.......what a toejamsack that loser was....thank goodness Bush at least has the balls to be an honest idiot. Honest people have no doubt about Bush.
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I have only recently discovered that it is indeed possible to recover from a frontal lombotomy.
It remains to be seen if the nation can recover from a rectal bushoptomy.
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Originally posted by Hangtime
I have only recently discovered that it is indeed possible to recover from a frontal lombotomy.
I think you misspelled "limbaughtomy."
:)
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Originally posted by Hangtime
I have only recently discovered that it is indeed possible to recover from a frontal lombotomy.
i find it's better to have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy.
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Originally posted by SOB
LOL
Seriously though, somebody is sure to vote for him as a write-in. Hell, I'm sure Eagler will be voting in the next election.
nah. I've had my stomach stapled, moving to CA, getting a face lift and tummy/gut tuck, picking out my pink beemer, ordered my manzier from Kramer, drinking nothing but Canadian beer while smoking CA hydro and plan on voting for Hillary in 08 :)
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Originally posted by Eagler
nah. I've had my stomach stapled, moving to CA, getting a face lift and tummy/gut tuck, picking out my pink beemer, ordered my manzier from Kramer, drinking nothing but Canadian beer while smoking CA hydro and plan on voting for Hillary in 08 :)
I need to make this my sig line for a while.
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That is one thing about Bush is that he has held his position and done what is best for this country in the war on terror. Yes he has made some mistakes. But what he has not done is backed down from what was the right thing to do after 9-11.
Think about it, what president has had to make more troubeling decisions? Maybe Abraham Lincoln? Americans fighting Americans, tough calls to make. The Japanese have bombed Pearl Harbor? Great, let's go get them, THEY HAVE BORDERS. We know where they are, easy call.
I wish they would stop conducting presidental poll numbers outside Berkley.
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Bush made the right decision(again).
Ex-Joint Chiefs Chairman Myers Defends Rumsfeld Against Critics
April 16 (Bloomberg) -- The former chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, retired General Richard Myers, said Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld didn't stifle dissent among military commanders, as he sought to counter public criticism of the Pentagon chief from six former officers.
Calls by the six retired generals for Rumsfeld's resignation because of his handling of the conflict in Iraq are ``inappropriate'' and harmful to the military, Myers, who served as the nation's top military leader from October 2001 until last September, said on ABC's ``This Week'' program. ``We'd be in a horrible state in this country, in my opinion, if the military was left to judge civilian bosses.''
Rumsfeld's supporters are rallying around the Defense secretary amid demands from war critics for President George W. Bush to replace him and a continuing loss of public backing for the Iraq war. Bush on April 14 issued a statement saying Rumsfeld has his ``full support.''
The retired generals, including Army Major General John Batiste and Marine Corps General Anthony Zinni, criticized the planning for the war and its aftermath. Batiste said last week on PBS's ``NewsHour'' program that the administration ``ignored sound military advice and counsel.''
In rebutting the critics, Myers said Rumsfeld gave his military commanders ``tremendous access'' to present their arguments on strategy and tactics.
``When it's all said and done, in our system, the civilian control of the military means that civilians makes the decision,'' Myers said.
`Good Call'
Republican Senator Richard Lugar of Indiana, chairman of the Foreign Relations Committee, said Bush made a ``good call'' by expressing his confidence in Rumsfeld. The administration has a significant foreign policy challenges ahead, including Iraq, Iran and relations in Asia and getting distracted by the controversy over Rumsfeld ``would be a misfortune,'' he said in a separate interview on the ABC program.
Another Republican, Senator George Allen of Virginia, said removing Rumsfeld would make little difference in the battle against terrorists or the effort to train Iraqi troops and get a government in place there.
``A lot of this focus on an individual is a way of, maybe, criticizing the president,'' Allen said on CBS's ``Face the Nation'' program.
Democrats said the statements by the former military officers, in interviews and published writings, reinforced their own criticism of Rumsfeld and of the war.
`Transforming Mistakes'
``Clearly some transforming mistakes have been made'' in Iraq, Senator Evan Bayh, also of Indiana, said on ABC. He said the U.S. didn't have enough troops in Iraq to secure the country after the invasion and the plan for dealing with the aftermath ``was thrown away by the Pentagon.''
New Mexico Governor Bill Richardson said he was sure military commanders expressed their dissent on the war plans at the time they were being formed.
``It is obvious that Secretary Rumsfeld did not listen to them,'' Richardson said on CBS. ``This is why we're in this morass.''
At least 2,373 U.S. military personnel have died in Iraq since the March 2003 invasion, and Iraqi political leaders are still struggling to form a unity government almost four months since the last parliamentary elections. In the U.S., support for the war is waning. A Bloomberg/Los Angeles Time poll found that only 37 percent of Americans approve of the way Bush is handling the conflict and 58 percent said the situation in Iraq wasn't worth going to war over.
Pressure on Iraq
Republicans and Democrats alike said the U.S. must increase pressure on Iraq's elected leaders to form a government now to avoid worsening sectarian violence in the country.
``I'm for keeping the pressure on them,'' Lugar said. The U.S. may have to begin withdrawing support ``if they don't get their act together'' and form a new government.
Democratic Senator Christopher Dodd of Connecticut said on the ``Fox News Sunday'' program that Iraqi political leaders have delayed too long in coming up with a governing coalition that satisfies Sunni, *****e and Kurdish factions.
``Until they decide that they're going to manage their future, we can't guarantee it for them,'' Dodd said. ``We've given them an option, we've given them an opening here, but they seem unwilling to take advantage of it and people are tired of it at home.''
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=10000087&sid=ap4bjs0V8wzw&refer=top_world_news
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"Yah. Rummy's a ruthless little bastard. make no mistake about it..." Richard 'The Dick' Nixon, 35 years ago.
When yer riding a tricky bull.. do yah get off and hope the clowns distract him long enough that he doesn't trample yah, or hang on till it's over?
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LOL right now im listening to that bush was right song.:lol
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New material is needed in the O'Club. I'm fresh out of rat's a**es.
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Henry Kissinger disliked him intensely because he was the only person he met in his life who was 100% self-centered and had no conscience about anything he said or did.
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Originally posted by Rolex
Henry Kissinger disliked him intensely because he was the only person he met in his life who was 100% self-centered and had no conscience about anything he said or did.
Umm, Henry Kissinger decides who is self centered, and that is taken as fact?
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Booosh is the FKTEHMIDDLECLASSINTHEASSINATO R!
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wait a minute rolex..... you are saying that.... that... kissinger was calling someone arrogant and self centered? think about what you said...
For kissinger... anyone who dissagreed with anything he said was arrogant and...wrong.
I kinda like the way Bush does what he says and doesn't rule by popularity pole...
for all of you who see everything as shades of gray.... I can understand how unbearable that must be to you.
lazs