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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: tapakeg on April 19, 2006, 02:33:35 PM
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So the movie Flight 93 is coming out and all I keep hearing about is " is it too soon?"
Too soon?
Too soon?
People don't want the wounds to heal, they want to forget completely.
We have people acting like ostriches with their heads in the sand not wanting to hear anything about 9 / 11, surfacing only to yell anti Bush statements, or pull the troops out of Iraq.
Too soon?
Too soon?
NEVER FORGET !!!!!
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too soon for the hand wringing left..
they want to wait until 12/2008 at least ...
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Excellent choice for a movie. I bet I know how it ends. :rolleyes:
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Hehe Eagler, true.
Sandy does have sorta a point. That's why I hate prequels, you know how they are going to turn out.
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I bet I know how it ends.
Yeah, unlike that other movie with the twist at the end.......what was it?
Oh yeah, Titanic.
Man, there at the end, when that ship hit the iceberg and sank........I did not see that coming.
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I support the war in Iraq and am glad that an attempt is being made to capture 911 through film, but I seriously doubt I'll be seeing that movie in theatres... "Too soon" sums it up somewhat.. I just, well, I dunno. I just really don't want to see it right yet.
If it's made well though, I'm sure I'll watch it someday when it's out on video, so keep us posted if you see it and what you thought. I hope it is very well made, I'd like my kids to be able to have some clue what that day was like.
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Originally posted by tapakeg
Yeah, unlike that other movie with the twist at the end.......what was it?
Oh yeah, Titanic.
Man, there at the end, when that ship hit the iceberg and sank........I did not see that coming.
Man, I thought you were gona say Pearl Harbor, cause when I watched that I thought for sure Ben Afleck and Josh Hartnett were gona shoot down all the planes and then rally the troops and save the Arizona
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I don't care.
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I personally don't think its too soon, some folks in this country (and the world) may need to be reminded why we're camped in the back door of the Middle East at the moment...however I personally will not see the movie. I think its too soon in my memory to re-live that of that tragic day.
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It is completely up to the victim's families as to whether or not it is "too soon".
As I understand it they have said it isn't...so I'm with them.
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I guess there is a difference between
"too soon"
and
"act like it didn't happen"
I just feel too many people are of the second nature
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Originally posted by tapakeg
I guess there is a difference between
"too soon"
and
"act like it didn't happen"
I just feel too many people are of the second nature
I think that's a pretty fair observation.
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Nattyiced, you better care!
What did people say when Pearl harbor was attacked?
We were attacked and everyone living in the USA and all US citizens need to remember 9-11 and those that lost there lives.
Every Dec 7 I remember, & every 9-11 I remember. We should never forget.
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"What did people say when Pearl harbor was attacked?"
It's worth noting that the US government used an extensive propaganda program to keep people focused on the war.
J_A_B
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I'm not sure how disagreeing with the war in Iraq has anything to do with forgetting Sept. 11th 2001.
Last time I heard, some fella named Osama had something to do with it.
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Osama who?
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Originally posted by Dowding
I'm not sure how disagreeing with the war in Iraq has anything to do with forgetting Sept. 11th 2001.
Last time I heard, some fella named Osama had something to do with it.
And I am sure that radical islamics have nothing to do with war in iraq. Those self proclaimed Al Qaeda people in Iraq probably lying anyways. :rolleyes:
Now back to the subject. I don't think it is to soon to make the movie, but not sure yet if too soon for me to see it. That day is still vivid in my memory, probably always will be.
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As a card carrying member of the hand wringing left I will go see it. I'll probably tear up and then I'll stand and yell out in the theater that we need to get out there and kill Osama Bin Hussein!!
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I'm goin to see it
(http://www.cjsimmons.net/wp-content/uploads/2006/01/flight93.jpg)
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Originally posted by midnight Target
As a card carrying member of the hand wringing left I will go see it. I'll probably tear up and then I'll stand and yell out in the theater that we need to get out there and kill Osama Bin Hussein!!
I bet Voss knows where he is.
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Originally posted by Dowding
I'm not sure how disagreeing with the war in Iraq has anything to do with forgetting Sept. 11th 2001.
Last time I heard, some fella named Osama had something to do with it.
Sorry that's just a standard "now don't get me wrong" kinda disclaimer to prevent lynchings around here :D
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(http://users.bestweb.net/~bgeiger/images/wheres_osama.jpg)
:lol
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Originally posted by Dowding
I'm not sure how disagreeing with the war in Iraq has anything to do with forgetting Sept. 11th 2001.
Last time I heard, some fella named Osama had something to do with it.
One aspect of having a base of operations in Osamas backyard is the fact that it has to do with a nation who is willing to work with terrorist, but lets not cloud this thread with facts and data that you'll deny happened, we've already discussed it on this BBS and you chose to hide your head in the sand.
Osama bin Laden Contact With Iraq"
A newly released prewar Iraqi document indicates that an official representative of Saddam Hussein's government met with Osama bin Laden in Sudan on February 19, 1995, after receiving approval from Saddam Hussein. Bin Laden asked that Iraq broadcast the lectures of Suleiman al Ouda, a radical Saudi preacher, and suggested "carrying out joint operations against foreign forces" in Saudi Arabia. According to the document, Saddam's presidency was informed of the details of the meeting on March 4, 1995, and Saddam agreed to dedicate a program for them on the radio. The document states that further "development of the relationship and cooperation between the two parties to be left according to what's open [in the future] based on dialogue and agreement on other ways of cooperation." The Sudanese were informed about the agreement to dedicate the program on the radio.
The report then states that "Saudi opposition figure" bin Laden had to leave Sudan in July 1996 after it was accused of harboring terrorists. It says information indicated he was in Afghanistan. "The relationship with him is still through the Sudanese. We're currently working on activating this relationship through a new channel in light of his current location," it states.
http://abcnews.go.com/International/IraqCoverage/story?id=1734490&page=1
FWIW, the full documents can be found on the U.S. Army Foreign Military Studies Office Web site.
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Originally posted by BTAirsol
Nattyiced, you better care!
I don't, and I won't.
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Ok, I'll bite,
Don't care about the movie,
or don't care about Terrorism / Sept 11th / Iraq
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Movie.
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I unfortunately cannot forget. I brought my wife and then newborn son home from the hospital on Tuesday, Sept. 11th (most don't even recall the day themselves). Instead of holding him (He was born of a Caesarian on the 8th) and exclaiming "Son, there is a whole world out there for you". I, instead silently stood at the Hospital entrance holding Ian: "Son, the world will never be the same again."
Also, if that isn't enough, my cousin was in the Wing of the Pentagon that was hit. She was one of the few who still occupied offices while the renevation was underway. It took us two days to find out if she was still alive. She had to enlist the help of a Marine to retrieve her purse. He obliged, not even caring of the possible "Courts Martial" that could follow if they were caught.
I'm sorry, but I will not be watching this movie. I live it daily. I don't approve of the movie, this is my opinion as a Citizen of the United States of America, who is posting in a Private Forum.
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Originally posted by J_A_B
"What did people say when Pearl harbor was attacked?"
It's worth noting that the US government used an extensive propaganda program to keep people focused on the war.
J_A_B
The Media was a bit more helpful back then too though.
Maybe cause a Democrat was in office? LOL
As for the movie.
The Families of those who dies on Flight 93 thought the story should be told.
So long as they are ok with it. So am I
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Flight 93 Trailer (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8310927221448559795&q=flight+93&pl=true)
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The only problem I have with it is that it is simply for the profit of the movie company.
I find it shamefull that this tragic moment in out history will be used for finacial gain that will not be seen by the victims families.
This subject should IMHO never be used for entertainment and thats what movies are BTW.
Now if 90% of the procedes went to the victims families that might be another story but as it is all its doing is filling the bank accounts of the movie studio.
As far as never forgeting!! I doubt any American will ever forget that day we dont need a movie to remind us.
So NO i will not see it EVER.
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Originally posted by fartwinkle
The only problem I have with it is that it is simply for the profit of the movie company.
I find it shamefull that this tragic moment in out history will be used for finacial gain that will not be seen by the victims families.
This subject should IMHO never be used for entertainment and thats what movies are BTW.
Now if 90% of the procedes went to the victims families that might be another story but as it is all its doing is filling the bank accounts of the movie studio.
As far as never forgeting!! I doubt any American will ever forget that day we dont need a movie to remind us.
So NO i will not see it EVER.
on CNN the flight 93 families supported the movie
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Originally posted by RAIDER14
on CNN the flight 93 families supported the movie
Big deal did will the movie studio share the wealth they are going to get off the deaths of there loved ones?
Again its jusy my opinion but i think its imorale to profit from the deaths of these folks.
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all the profits are going to the flight 93 memorial so its a good thing
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Actually I think 10% is going to the memorial.
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but still they were the first soldiers in the war on terror and they were heroes saveing countless lives and there story should be told:aok
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Originally posted by midnight Target
Actually I think 10% is going to the memorial.
And the movie studio gets the other 90%? heck of a deal:furious
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Originally posted by RAIDER14
but still they were the first soldiers in the war on terror and they were heroes saveing countless lives and there story should be told:aok
Well I doubt you can find anyone in America that has not heard of flight 93 and what those fine folks did to save the capital.
My point is that profit the all mighty dollar is being put above the people who died i mean dont this just wreek of greed on the studios part?
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Well gee Fartwinkle there's been a million movies about WW2, do you boycot all those too? It's not like all the people who fought in that have died off yet...
I see what you're saying... But I wouldn't get all that worked up about it... At least the families (hopefully) will have a film that honors their loved ones and shows "why daddy's a hero" when the kids are older... Just like there are plenty of "why grandpa's a hero" movies now (some being made before the outcome of WW2 was even a sure thing).
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it'll be funny if it turns out there were gay cowboys on that plane
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Originally posted by RAIDER14
all the profits are going to the flight 93 memorial so its a good thing
You mean that discraceful piece of garbage called "Crescent of Embrace?"
http://michellemalkin.com/archives/003513.htm
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I'm interested to see it, but I'm afraid that the Hollywood movie industry will ruin it.
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Originally posted by Debonair
it'll be funny if it turns out there were gay cowboys on that plane
http://www.markbingham.org/
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Ooooooh maybe this all 9-11 thing was just a giant mock-up, because this goes against everything Jackal has been taught!
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One aspect of having a base of operations in Osamas backyard is the fact that it has to do with a nation who is willing to work with terrorist, but lets not cloud this thread with facts and data that you'll deny happened, we've already discussed it on this BBS and you chose to hide your head in the sand.
After writing that, I expected you to provide 'facts and data' that contradicted my assertion that Saddam Hussein had nothing to do with Sept 11th.
I'm still waiting.
In the mean time, here's something to mull over.
(http://www.allhatnocattle.net/Rumsfeld-hussein.jpg)
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Originally posted by Dowding
After writing that, I expected you to provide 'facts and data' that contradicted my assertion that Saddam Hussein had nothing to do with Sept 11th.
I'm still waiting.
In the mean time, here's something to mull over.
(http://www.allhatnocattle.net/Rumsfeld-hussein.jpg)
And where in your previous post did you make an assertion concerning Saddam?
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Originally posted by Vudak
Well gee Fartwinkle there's been a million movies about WW2, do you boycot all those too? It's not like all the people who fought in that have died off yet...
I see what you're saying... But I wouldn't get all that worked up about it... At least the families (hopefully) will have a film that honors their loved ones and shows "why daddy's a hero" when the kids are older... Just like there are plenty of "why grandpa's a hero" movies now (some being made before the outcome of WW2 was even a sure thing).
If any good comes out of this then that will be it that the children will have a public record of there parents bravery.
As far as ww2 movies LOL Yeah I watch em but the differense as i see it is our soldiers had gun to fight back with and for the most part knew what they where getting into the poor souls on flight 93 had no idea that day when they woke up that they might die.
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Originally posted by fartwinkle
...had no idea that day when they woke up that they might die.
And that is something applicable to everybody, everywhere, for every day of their life.
Keep that in mind and, strangely, you'll enjoy life much more (and you'll be less likely to get p!ssed off by petty things... like me right now by my antivirus which doesn't accept the latest update for no frigging valid reason! :furious )
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I'll watch it.
I feel like my internal hate meter for those has been waning a little lately, and needs to be replenished.
All i have to do is walk two blocks to the park by my house, and look past the river to where the towers WERE. It's impossible to forget.
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Originally posted by fartwinkle
Big deal did will the movie studio share the wealth they are going to get off the deaths of there loved ones?
Again its jusy my opinion but i think its imorale to profit from the deaths of these folks.
Ahh but what better way to flip the middle finger at those responcable for those attacks then to turn a profit from it.
They attacked our money.
And we now show them that we can take the best they could do against us and we could find a way to make a profit off of it.
And if we dont make a profit off of it. the Terrorists win.
Like I said if the families are ok with it. and they are.
so am I
Im sure the families are well aware that people are going ot profit from it.
To them the more important thing is the story is told
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i think part of the problemis the govt's shift of focus from the capture and trial of bin laden to try and bring some kind of closure to this event, to the bringing of democracy to Iraq. The dramatic feel of the movie is lost with the lack of effort to find and try bin laden. The movie should be, 'Saddams vast arsenal of WMD's'.
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Originally posted by WhiteHawk
i think part of the problemis the govt's shift of focus from the capture and trial of bin laden to try and bring some kind of closure to this event, to the bringing of democracy to Iraq. The dramatic feel of the movie is lost with the lack of effort to find and try bin laden. The movie should be, 'Saddams vast arsenal of WMD's'.
So in other words what you are trying to say is that Bush made this movie???? That's really reaching there. :rolleyes:
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to the extent saddam hussein was killing iranians I think the reagan admin did an admirable job, considering the difficulties that came with it...the kurds getting gassed, the uss stark...the vincennes accidental shootdown of the airbus.
All in all it was saddams gig to screw up,and he did. Big time
As far as the movie is concerned, I have no trouble imagining the horror those innocent people, everyone who was murdered on 9/11, went through. I dont need to see it on film. Getting killed has got to be one miserable damned experience, and to die as a result of someone elses suicide is just plain nasty to even think about. Kill those suicider bastards as fast and as soon as you can. And if you argue the point that "for every one you kill you make ten more" I say great, gets us to the finish line that much faster...
like good old scop always used to say "kill kill kill"
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I'll pass. I don't need any reminders of 9-11. I got Monster Seats at Fenway and that's far more entertaining.
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Originally posted by Maverick
So in other words what you are trying to say is that Bush made this movie???? That's really reaching there. :rolleyes:
no, i am trying to say the patriotic fever that this movie is meant to inspire is dampened by the horrendous failure of the administration to find and try bin laden. For this evildoer to sprout up every so often and taunt the US while we are cluster forking around in Iraq, to me, is an outrage. But thats just the way I feel.
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Originally posted by Yeager
to the extent saddam hussein was killing iranians I think the reagan admin did an admirable job, considering the difficulties that came with it...the kurds getting gassed, the uss stark...the vincennes accidental shootdown of the airbus.
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Ya..he did a good job of using the chemical kaka sold to him by USA..:rolleyes: