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http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/R/RICE_EXAM_QUESTION?SITE=FLTAM&SECTION=US
Math Prof Apologizes for Test Question
BELLEVUE, Wash. (AP) -- A community college math instructor has apologized for a test question invoking Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice that students complained was racially insensitive.
Peter Ratener, 60, who has taught at Bellevue Community College for more than 25 years, said Wednesday night at a trustees meeting that the question on an exam last month was an "egregious mistake."
It began, "Condoleezza holds a watermelon just over the edge of the roof of the 300-foot Federal Building, and tosses it up with a velocity of 20 feet per second." The question then asked students to determine when the watermelon would hit the ground.
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And the school system can't fire him Ill bet or wont, the school admin probably high-fiving him behind closed doors for giving them a great laugh!
And our kids education takes another beating at the hands of a racist librule college instructor/professor....
This garbage gets my blood boiling, the civil rights movement was several decades ago and still we can't get past the racial issues even in a college classroom environment in 2006.... The professor's age puts him in college during the height of the civl rights movement which this guy was stoned thru the entire period probably....
TJ
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I do not see anything wrong with the question.
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images of this movie drift past my head
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0066550/
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I still do not get it, but I am starting to think that is a good thing.
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The question is ridiculous. Everyone knows that Condoleeeeeeeeeezza would never throw a perfectly good watermelon off of the roof.
:D
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Heh Skuzzy, sure you do. What you mean is that there *shouldn't* be anything wrong with the question. Big difference.
Unfortunately, generations of white people making racist jokes about black people and watermelon has turned this particular combination of race and a nice cool summer treat into a reference that reminds many people of racism and hatred. And since those references continue to be brought up by narrow minded bigots with the intent to spread more hatred and racism, even innocent references can and will be seen as insensitive at best.
It sucks to have to be that careful about every little thing people say, but racial hatred has lots of consequences for everyone. This just happens to be one way that racists are hurting everyone, because EVERYONE has to be careful about how their words may be interpreted. Blaming the victims (or the children of the victims) for being touchy doesn't help...
I think it's retarded that I have to constantly censor what I say, but in cases of otherwise innocent phrases that are still associated with racial hatred, I blame the racist bastards, not those who may be (in my opinion) very sensitive and quick to take offense to such things.
One thing I am sure of... Unless the professor has a history of racial bias, he ought to receive nothing more than a verbal warning from his department head to consider his ENTIRE audience when phrasing test questions.
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Originally posted by eagl
because EVERYONE has to be careful about how their words may be interpreted.
Horse biscuits. If you play the lame game of PC you may think you have to. I don`t and I won`t play that. Humor is humor. If someone is going to pull the race card, they are going to pull it no matter what.
Richard Pryor included jokes about white, black, Mex.................and every other nationality and race using the old common references that are considered non-PC and would normaly be used to play the race card. IMHO he was one of the top comedians of our times.
He also did more to bridge gaps and dispell myths between the white/black issues than the total of the so called experts.
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Eagl, you may find it hard to believe, but I have no clue what the inference is between watermelons and black people. How can a watermelon be racist?
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Will this question go with it
Condoleezza eats fried chicken at a rate of 4 ounces every 2.4 minutes. How much in weight will it eat in 35 minutes?
According to those crybaby students, if I see a test that talks about having a car sitting in the front or back of a house, I will say its making fun of rednecks and hillbillies. I will then proced to write every single newspaper complaining about it and state I suffered emotional damages and stress because of that question :rolleyes:
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I calculated that the melon would hit the deck about 6 seconds after leaving Condi's hands. In terms of downward velocity, free falling objects accelerate towards earth at a rate of 32ft per second per second. So in the first second, the initial downward velocity would be -20ft per second, tending toward zero during that first second. The melon would rise about 10ft before starting downward towards the base of the Federal Building from a height of 310ft. A second later it would be at 278ft, a second after that 214ft, a second after that 118ft, and would go splat about a second later. Of course, wind resistance and other environmental variables such as temperature, humidity and wind speed would come into play, but to the nearest second, I'd estimate 6 seconds.
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Originally posted by Meatwad
According to those crybaby students, if I see a test that talks about having a car sitting in the front or back of a house, I will say its making fun of rednecks and hillbillies. I will then proced to write every single newspaper complaining about it and state I suffered emotional damages and stress because of that question :rolleyes:
I`d be curious as to what make/model the cars were and the possibility of trading some used tires for one if it was the one I wanted to add to my collection. :D
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Originally posted by Skuzzy
Eagl, you may find it hard to believe, but I have no clue what the inference is between watermelons and black people. How can a watermelon be racist?
Watermellons are mad because they were picked off the vine and eaten by everyone. They will soon form the NAAWM (National Association for the Advancement of WaterMellons) and demand equal rights of more popular fruits and vegetables :D :rofl
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Originally posted by Skuzzy
I do not see anything wrong with the question.
Walk down MLK street in Dallas and ask a crowd to solve that math question and see if you don't get your arse beat.. Then you'll understand.
The question could have been asked many ways without using the term watermelon...
TJ
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Originally posted by T0J0
Walk down MLK street in Dallas and ask a crowd to solve that math question and see if you don't get your arse beat.. Then you'll understand.
TJ
So........ I take it you don`t have much confidence in the average black man`s common sense, intelligence, etc. etc. Is that correct? :D
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Skuzzy,
I'm not going to draw you a picture, but I'll be blunt and I figure you may need to lock the thread afterwards. I am very suprised you do not know or understand this, but it's a historic issue.
For many many years, a typical stereotype of black people was spread by whites who deliberately intended to portray black people as not quite human, and they caricatured blacks by drawing cartoons. These cartoons deliberately gave the black people monkey-like features, grossly oversized lips, and commonly portrayed them as eating "typical" southern food such as watermelon and fried chicken.
It was so widespread that even non-racist people accepted these caricatures as normal simply because they were all over the place. But the intent of these cartoons was NOT to portray black people as friendly, cute, or as "friends". They are in many cases simply degrading. Sure there are versions that aren't quite as blatantly disgusting, but they are merely watered down versions of originals that portray black people as stupid animals.
Why do you think Disney's "song of the south", and certain scenes from Disney's "fantasia" have been, and always will be, voluntarily censored in the US? Because the portrayal of black minorities in those movies are direct reflections of a broad societal assumption back when those films were made, that black people were not as human as white people were.
Again, I am a bit shocked that you are not aware of this part of our nation's long and racially charged history, but I guess I made an assumption that "everyone knew" about this sort of thing. I grew up going to a magnet school in San Diego, riding a bus to a poor, predominantly black school for over an hour each day as part of a deliberate school integration program, so I suppose I was closer to this part of US history than many people. But believe me, it is a real part of our history and it's taken active efforts in the last couple of generations to squash this sort of pervasive and subtle racist portrayal of minorities.
If you don't believe me, you may want to head over to a local university and audit a course that covers US history over the last 80 years or so. Remember as recent as WWII, the Korean war, and to some extent even the Vietnam war, black military members were relegated to menial jobs simply because "everyone" thought they were genetically inferior to whites. They didn't think it was a racist assessment, rather they were basing their opinions on underlying cultural attitudes, attitudes spread throughout the US by things as simple as a cartoon caricature of a dark skinned monkey eating watermelon.
Fast-forward to a university professor, who is old enough that he ought to know about the desegregation riots and all that came with that era, coming up with a test question linking our nation's most powerful black woman and a watermelon. Can you now see how this could possibly bring up flashbacks to those caricatures that were intended to demean and degrade black people?
Delete, edit, or close as necessary... This is a very emotionally charged issue and unfortunately a lot of people are not aware of WHY certain items are so touchy to minorities. In this case, the reason goes back 200 or more years.
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Originally posted by Skuzzy
Eagl, you may find it hard to believe, but I have no clue what the inference is between watermelons and black people. How can a watermelon be racist?
see here:
http://www.rsdb.org/search?q=watermelon
as stated in there it was even used in the movie "48 hours"
i've known that one for years... it is in fact the reason that movie i linked to is named that way.
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Originally posted by Skuzzy
Eagl, you may find it hard to believe, but I have no clue what the inference is between watermelons and black people. How can a watermelon be racist?
It isn't racist. The people who think it is are.
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I'd say google for more info, but google often un-links racist websites that might have examples of what I'm talking about so you may have to use more direct search methods. I personally don't go to the kinds of websites that contain that sort of thing, so I can't offer up any links. Plus you'd delete my post if I put those links in here :)
edit - It's not about the cartoon caricatures. It's about a demeaning portrayal of minorities that was linked to a perceived racial taste for watermelon. The cartoons were just one way this stereotype was spread. Jokes were another. Everyone told them, and everyone thought they were ok and normal. Well, they're not because they were, and still are in many cases, an unconscious societal reflection of negative stereotypes deliberately spread by racist hate groups.
There are dozens of terms in common use today that come directly from racial stereotypes... How often have you heard someone call someone else who just did something stupid a "nig-nog"? I hear it all the time from people who have no idea that the derogatory origin of the term was a reference to being as stupid as a someone with a "n-word" noggin. But people say these things without realizing what they mean, because it appears to be part of the collective societal norm.
I'm not a crusader or anything but the topic came up and I was awake, so...
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Originally posted by beet1e
I calculated that the melon would hit the deck about 6 seconds after leaving Condi's hands. In terms of downward velocity, free falling objects accelerate towards earth at a rate of 32ft per second per second. So in the first second, the initial downward velocity would be -20ft per second, tending toward zero during that first second. The melon would rise about 10ft before starting downward towards the base of the Federal Building from a height of 310ft. A second later it would be at 278ft, a second after that 214ft, a second after that 118ft, and would go splat about a second later. Of course, wind resistance and other environmental variables such as temperature, humidity and wind speed would come into play, but to the nearest second, I'd estimate 6 seconds.
Beet, my math aint so good but I'm guessing your wrong.
1. Condi stands about 5' 7"? is she wearing heels? so height would start at least 305.
2. and tosses it up with a velocity of 20 feet per second how much does the watermelon weigh and how much can Condi bench press? need to calculate how high she tosses it up, then the watermelon has to decelerate, then begin its drop down again. You say she'll toss it up 10ft, then total distance for the drop would be 315 feet
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Eagl, I think if you will perform a little experiment you might learn something about yourself.
Go back and read the posts you have placed in this thread real slow.
Can you see that your views are being directed and steered by the truely racist instead of the other way around?
Those that play the race card at every opportunity are the truley racist. They also cause the most disturbance between races while hiding behind a very sheer curtain for cover.
If you buy into PC in this case...............well you get the picture.
BTW...."typical" southern foods such as fried chicken and watermelon are some of my favorites. Imagine that. A southerner liking southern food.
Our small school was just the opposite of what you described. In a town twelve miles away from ours was an excluseivly black school. That school was totaly closed and the black kids were bussed to our school.
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Jackal,
I always re-read what I write, and you've missed my point entirely. My point is that these references were used for a very long time with a deliberately racist intent, and just because most people do not intend them in that way nowadays doesn't mean that the phrases and terms do not still bring up bad memories.
And some people DO still make racist and derogatory references of this type, so it's not even something that's all in the past.
I think any knee-jerk reaction by either party is the wrong way to handle it, but it should still be understood that certain phrases have a lot of racial connotations and hidden meanings. A professor ought to know these sorts of things and except when making a specific point to his class, probably ought to avoid bringing them up.
That's not being racist, it's recognizing that racist people have made certain relationships and phrases offensive and it's stupid to try to ignore or belittle the reactions that those phrases will generate.
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Interesting eagl. Even more so, considering I went through public schools where white people were the minority and blacks and hispanics were the majority.
Quite frankly, I could care less about the racial history of any country. It should never define our actions, it should only serve as a reminder of where we went right or wrong.
People create and feed racism. In giving this 'question' the attention it is being given, and the perspective it is being viewed from, it will serve to promote racism, not stop it.
I am not defined by my father, or his father. So please do not try to put me in thier shoes. I have my own, thank you very much. I still see nothing wrong with the question, and none of my black friends would either.
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Originally posted by Skuzzy
Eagl, you may find it hard to believe, but I have no clue what the inference is between watermelons and black people. How can a watermelon be racist?
It all started when a group of mean watermelons got together and started burning crosses in black folk’s front yards, and then hanging them too....
Course the story that never gets told is the brutal oppression and cannibalism propagated against the innocent watermelon community! :mad:
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Originally posted by Skuzzy
I do not see anything wrong with the question.
Ask the watermelon !
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Thank you for the history eagl. I too was unaware of the watermelon connection and I even lived in the south as a kid.
I dare say that if such a big deal were not made about incidents like this, it wouldn't take long for watermelons to get back their good name. It's a shame a tasty summer treat should be taboo.
On the other hand, now that I know the history, I can understand why it would ruffle a few feathers. I just think it's time for us all to move on and get along.
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Maybe the Professor should have used a different fruit....like lets say a Banana?
:huh
Mac
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The combination of directly referring to Ms. Rice and a watermelon leads me to believe that the professor made a foul, racist joke on the test which was intentionally meant to demean the "evil" Bush administration, which he probably considers racist.
It also shows that this same professor cannot understand why everyone doesn't think the same way he does.
Welcome to liberal controlled academia.
Oh...film reference....
Watermelon Man (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0066550/)
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Originally posted by Shaky
Oh...film reference....
Watermelon Man (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0066550/)
linked already in 3rd reply ;)
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This is almost comical. I just cannot fathom how a watermelon could be the anchor point for racial commentary. Regardless of the past, it just defies all logic.
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Sort of the same thing happened after the Masters one year. Fuzzy Zoeller remarked how he hoped that Tiger Woods wouldn't pick fried chicken and watermelon for the annual dinner, since the winner chooses the menu. He was roundly blasted for it in the press.
What wasn't mentioned was that the kitchen in the club was famous for fried chicken, and thats what was usually served along with watermelon. Fuzzy was just tired of eating it.
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Originally posted by Skuzzy
This is almost comical. I just cannot fathom how a watermelon could be the anchor point for racial commentary. Regardless of the past, it just defies all logic.
Skuzz, the professor was apparrantly aware of the reference, since the test question was origunally written with the comedian Gallagher throwing the watermelon of a 300 ft building, and was changed to "Condoleezza" throwing it off the 300 ft "Federal' building.
A clear, politically motivated racial slur from yet another liberal, who pride themselves in "tolerance".
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Originally posted by Skuzzy
This is almost comical. I just cannot fathom how a watermelon could be the anchor point for racial commentary. Regardless of the past, it just defies all logic.
whats weird from my point of view is how it is not known widely.
i knew it back in 2nd or 3rd grade. there was 1 black child in my whole grade school in the late 70's. he was a year younger than me, and rode on my bus. he was called all those names by the older hicks that were also on the bus.
when i saw / heard it in 48 hours i was really suprised it was used, as growing up it was almost as bad as the N word. you NEVER said that to a black person ever.
i think up north here what may propagate it is the inner city. see there are guys that every day all summer park a truck of watermelons for sale on the side of the roads near some of the more unpleasant neighborhoods. in 33 years i can honestly say i have not seen a white person patronize one of these watermelon trucks, and i used to communte past 3 of them every day for over 2 years.
i guess it is like the soda or pop thing. different areas of the country have different verbage in use, even in slang.
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Originally posted by Shaky
Sort of the same thing happened after the Masters one year. Fuzzy Zoeller remarked how he hoped that Tiger Woods wouldn't pick fried chicken and watermelon for the annual dinner, since the winner chooses the menu. He was roundly blasted for it in the press.
What wasn't mentioned was that the kitchen in the club was famous for fried chicken, and thats what was usually served along with watermelon. Fuzzy was just tired of eating it.
i remeber that. the local morning radio guys were going ape over that laughing. they couldn't believe he said that.
Originally posted by Shaky
Skuzz, the professor was apparrantly aware of the reference, since the test question was origunally written with the comedian Gallagher throwing the watermelon of a 300 ft building, and was changed to "Condoleezza" throwing it off the 300 ft "Federal' building.
it could be that the kids in the class would be like "who the **** is Gallagher?!?!"
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Originally posted by eagl
Jackal,
I always re-read what I write, and you've missed my point entirely. My point is that these references were used for a very long time with a deliberately racist intent, and just because most people do not intend them in that way nowadays doesn't mean that the phrases and terms do not still bring up bad memories.
No, I got the point you are trying to make. It`s just that I find it ludicrous to to be so easily played by the truely racist. Bad watermelon memories. Now that`s a new one. Maybe we should change the name entirely so as not to offend the PC crowd. H2Omelon perhaps. :)
but it should still be understood that certain phrases have a lot of racial connotations and hidden meanings.
It will be a cold day in hell when I avoid certain phraes to please the radical racist. Don`t you see that by doing so you are promoting a cause that has long been gone?
I treat people with respect that do so in turn no matter what their color. It`s just common sense. On the other hand trying to play the race card with me or coming off with some "you owe me" attitude over things that happened in my great grandfather`s times will get you more than you can dish out.
A professor ought to know these sorts of things and except when making a specific point to his class, probably ought to avoid bringing them up.
Walking on egg shells trying to please those looking for an excuse to play the down trodden race card will only get you scratched feet.
That's not being racist, it's recognizing that racist people have made certain relationships and phrases offensive and it's stupid to try to ignore or belittle the reactions that those phrases will generate.
If a watermelon comment causes the race card to be played, it was on the top of the deck to be dealt at the very first opportunity anyway. Those are the truely racist folks that should not be helped by promoting their agenda. Believe me, they will find a way to work it in anyway.
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Originally posted by Skuzzy
Interesting eagl. Even more so, considering I went through public schools where white people were the minority and blacks and hispanics were the majority.
Quite frankly, I could care less about the racial history of any country. It should never define our actions, it should only serve as a reminder of where we went right or wrong.
People create and feed racism. In giving this 'question' the attention it is being given, and the perspective it is being viewed from, it will serve to promote racism, not stop it.
I am not defined by my father, or his father. So please do not try to put me in thier shoes. I have my own, thank you very much. I still see nothing wrong with the question, and none of my black friends would either.
Skuzzy if everyone thought the same way you do racsism more than likely would not be an issue.
I commend you for your maturity:aok
But unfortunaly eagl has a point as it has been over the years a way of making fun of black folks sad very sad that we as a people as in the human specieces have not evolved beyound this silly crap?
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Originally posted by AWMac
Maybe the Professor should have used a different fruit....like lets say a Banana?
:huh
Mac
They they will cry saying that putting condolezza throwing a banana off a 300 ft tall building is calling her a monkey. To me, I pucture that and find it as funny as heck. They always find a reason to cry about anything as long as its in their favor
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Originally posted by AWMac
Maybe the Professor should have used a different fruit....like lets say a Banana?
:huh
Mac
um...well, if you use other fruits...then the gay community will get upset!
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Originally posted by Skuzzy
This is almost comical. I just cannot fathom how a watermelon could be the anchor point for racial commentary. Regardless of the past, it just defies all logic.
I think you just defined racism in a nutshell:aok
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No more Boston Tea Party jokes. It might offend Beetle. :)
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Remember the easybake ovens back in the 60s and 70s?
Made just a few of the jewish community :eek:
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Originally posted by Meatwad
They they will cry saying that putting condolezza throwing a banana off a 300 ft tall building is calling her a monkey. To me, I pucture that and find it as funny as heck. They always find a reason to cry about anything as long as its in their favor
It would have been better to leave Condi, and the political/racial overtones out of it and used the original question, which referred to Gallagher, the inventor of the "Sledge-o-matic".
Instead, the professor used the question to denigrate a conservative, who ha[[ens to be black. He used the fact that she is black as an integral part of that slur. But hey, its OK to use racial slurs, so long as they are against conservatives, right?
(http://www.flipsideshow.com/images/Condaleesa--DanzigerCartoon.jpg)
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Right.
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It is a choice to recognize 'racial slurs'. A conscious choice. What is the motivation to construe anything into a racial issue?
Would it be recognized to be a racial slur if the question went along the lines of:
"Bush attempts to dance, but hits 2 steps for every beat, of music, per second. After two minutes, how many excess steps does he take?"
or
"Cheney tosses another beer can into the back of his pickup truck, which is on blocks in his front yard. He has been doing so at the rate of 12 cans a day for the last 6 years. How many cans are in the bed of the truck?"
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Shaky, according to your post, you believe racism is politically motivated. Is this a correct assessment?
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Bear76, not sure I understand what your comment means. How does that define racism?
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I am going to plead ignorance as it pertains to 'racism'. I do not understand it and will never understand why people cling to it so. I do not understand a society which pays so much attention to racism as to keep it a living entity, and hold it out in front of itself for all to see. Yet, it does so with disdain.
The past should not be forgotten, but the present and future should not be a slave to the past either. If it is, then all we are doing is propagating racism.
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Originally posted by T0J0
Walk down MLK street in Dallas and ask a crowd to solve that math question and see if you don't get your arse beat.. Then you'll understand.
The question could have been asked many ways without using the term watermelon...
TJ
What if she in fact eats copious amounts of said mellon?... making the question 100% realistic? whos the clown, the professor or the skinny chick who eats racially sensitive mellon?
I wonder if as a black person she never eats watermelon in public because it would send the wrong message, and besides eating the wrong type of thing just looks just too funny to whitey.
What do Hispanics think about this?, "if Pedro throws a taco..."
Or the rednecks, "If Jethro had a tooth to throw.."
Or WHITIEY!!!, "If Biff and Jane thew their iPods off the roof.."
Is whitey allowed to eat watermelon in public, or does that mock blacks? that would suck because one of my favorite breakfast haunts, and this is no joke its a famous place here in LA "Roscoe's House of Chicken and Waffles", serves chicken, waffles with a watermelon slice on the side... I'm usually the only whitey there, should they be eating these racial meals in front of me? have my rights been violated? am I being mocked? would Condie eat there or toss her food off the roof?
Is Rosco black?, if so who is he trying to mock selling such things?
Such important questions must be answered in our lifetime if any of us are to eat in peace.
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Originally posted by T0J0
Walk down MLK street in Dallas and ask a crowd to solve that math question and see if you don't get your arse beat.. Then you'll understand.
The question could have been asked many ways without using the term watermelon... TJ
I am not prone to make a spectacle of myself. I have no qualms about asking some friends of mine about it though. They would find it quite funny.
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Condoleezza holds a watermelon just over the edge of the roof of the 300-foot Federal Building, and tosses it up with a velocity of 20 feet per second." The question then asked students to determine when the watermelon would hit the ground
And as usual, the kids learned all about racism, the evil Libs/Conservatives, got the community in an uproar, got the web sites blasting each other.
And still can't answer the question that was asked.
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Water melons are pretty tasteless, but they are not racist.
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I think some of you have way too much time on your hands.
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Originally posted by Skuzzy
This is almost comical. I just cannot fathom how a watermelon could be the anchor point for racial commentary. Regardless of the past, it just defies all logic.
In the south I witnessed growing up a watermelon was often used to make racial jokes, to me the fact you dont understand the inference defies logic as I understand it... I dont think any less of you, I just dont understand it...
The lack of logic has everything to do with the past 100+ years as it pertains to this issue....
TJ
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Originally posted by Airscrew
Beet, my math aint so good but I'm guessing your wrong.
1. Condi stands about 5' 7"? is she wearing heels? so height would start at least 305.
2. and tosses it up with a velocity of 20 feet per second how much does the watermelon weigh and how much can Condi bench press? need to calculate how high she tosses it up, then the watermelon has to decelerate, then begin its drop down again. You say she'll toss it up 10ft, then total distance for the drop would be 315 feet
OK, so the allowance to be made for Condi's height in heels is around 6ft. But, as the water melon nears the ground, it would be travelling at over 120ft per second. As you can see, that extra 6ft is going to make a difference of only one twentieth of a second.
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Skuzzy, this is just a guess on my part, but I would say you weren't raised down South. If I'm wrong I apologize.
Well, I was, and I can say from personal experience that Shaky's assessment is spot on.
The association of black people with watermelon and fried chicken is one of the oldest caricatures in Southern culture. I've heard those jokes all my life...and they ARE racist.
One doesn't hear those jokes as often as you once did...but occasionally you can still hear some "grown-up" (In this case, the word is an oxy-"moron") repeating one and s******ing like a teenager telling pornographic jokes in a gymnasium locker room.
Certainly the professor knew what he was doing...taking a jab at a prominent republican with a problem laced with racist inuendo.
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*sigh* Took me a moment to figure out why the language filter deleted one of the words in my previous post.
It should have read s-n-i-g-g-e-r-i-n-g.
Another example of pc taken to an extreme.
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I think some people take this racist angle too seriously.
When I started on my first work assignment in the US, two of my colleagues were black guys - one from Charlottesville,VA and the other from Washington DC. Clearly humour was different in our somewhat contrasting cultures, but I thought I'd take a chance with the bikini girl joke -
Q. Why is a bikini girl like a roast chicken?
A. Because the white bits are always the best.
They weren't offended at all, and had a good laugh! Probably laughing at me for having told it, but no offence was taken at this arguably racist joke.
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Shuckins, I was born and raised in Texas. Grew up in Corpus Christi.
In the case of the language filter, it is not very sophisticated. If you look at the contents of your word, you will note a very derogatory term in it. The filter nabbed it for that. The filter dunt know from PC.
And I do not think anyone would argue the word in question should not be allowed. There is a difference from being derogatory and being racist, although the two can cross paths.
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Originally posted by beet1e
....I thought I'd take a chance with the bikini girl joke -
Q. Why is a bikini girl like a roast chicken?
A. Because the white bits are always the best.
They weren't offended at all, and had a good laugh! Probably laughing at me for having told it, but no offence was taken at this arguably racist joke.
It's not racist at all. It's anti Queen Victoria*! You traitor!
*White meat and dark meat in reference to poultry is due to the Queen not wanting to say 'Breast' and 'Thigh' at the dinner table.
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Skuzzy, my point was concerning your comment is that racism defies logic.
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Originally posted by Holden McGroin
'Breast' and 'Thigh' .
MMM breasts and thighs
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Originally posted by Skuzzy
Shaky, according to your post, you believe racism is politically motivated. Is this a correct assessment?
I believe THIS instance of a blatantly racist remark was politically motivated, yes. I believe that many allegations of racism are also politically motivated, witness the current Duke fiasco, or the Brawley case.
In short, I believe that liberals play the "race card" at every opportunity, and if no opportunity, no matter how irrelevent, exists, they'll make one up.
At the same time, liberals are the biggest racists in this country.
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Originally posted by beet1e
I think some people take this racist angle too seriously.
When I started on my first work assignment in the US, two of my colleagues were black guys - one from Charlottesville,VA and the other from Washington DC. Clearly humour was different in our somewhat contrasting cultures, but I thought I'd take a chance with the bikini girl joke -
Q. Why is a bikini girl like a roast chicken?
A. Because the white bits are always the best.
They weren't offended at all, and had a good laugh! Probably laughing at me for having told it, but no offence was taken at this arguably racist joke.
Beet
Brits are not held accountable in the states for bad humor, its expected.
Every Brit I know even the guy next door who was recently deported have been the funniest most enjoyable jokers I have ever met... My only question is why does every Male Brit I know cheat on his wife and without fail get busted by the wife. Are Brit women that bad in the sack? I hang around at a brit pub and the normal average everyday conversation is who got caught sleeping with whom...
TJ
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IMHO, the very fact that someone is "offended" by this shows that it is the one who is offended that is the racist.
After all, it is the person who is offended that sees Ms. Rice as a "black woman" and not as the Secretary of State.
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Originally posted by T0J0
My only question is why does every Male Brit I know cheat on his wife and without fail get busted by the wife. Are Brit women that bad in the sack? I hang around at a brit pub and the normal average everyday conversation is who got caught sleeping with whom...
TJ
That can't be that common. Take Hugh Gra... OK bad example.