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Help and Support Forums => Help and Training => Topic started by: hornet1771 on April 20, 2006, 08:02:45 PM
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i recently downloaded the demo 2.2 or something, and the handling on the planes is terrible, i keep getting a stall warning during low speed turns, and when i let go of the stick the plane snaps back to like level flight. is this normal? do i have an outopilot on or something? the game looks sweet and i hope there is a way to make them fly better, if so, im buying it tomorrow! thank you
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Welcome to Aces High 2 (AH2).
The planes in here act like the real thing. However, there is some setup involved which includes but is not limited to calibrating the joystick both in Windows and the game. If you havn't done that yet there is no telling just what might happen when you let go of the stick. Or, as you mentioned the planes snaps (rolls) on you.
The current version of the game is 2.07. You can download it for free but there is a monthly subscription if you want to play in the games arenas. You also can host your own free online arena which is available in H2H. H2H is found when you start the game. You can choose that option but it is limited to 8 players. The online Main Arena (MA) normally host 500+ players nightly. There is also a Training Arena (TA), Dueling Arena (DA) along with Special Events Arena's available within the subscription online game.
Take a look at the game and ask any questions you might have here. I hope to see you flying online with us! :)
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Just practice hornet. Like every flight game the aircraft modeling is different. What you can do in 1 game is different in another. I can tell you the creator tries very hard to model the aircraft accuratley. After flying for a bit, it'll feel like 2nd nature to ya. Aces High(AH) offers a 2 week free trial with access to every arena.
As for stalling at low speed, that's natural. And I can't really answer the question about returning to level flight. It doesn't do it for me. I either end up flat spinning to the ground or my nose stalling down to recover airspeed.
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The game developer is very dedicated to realistic flight models, this is a simulator as opposed to an arcade game. The stall horn is just a warning to let you know you are close to the edge, because as you have probably found, if you push a plane past the edge, it will not react very kindly.
If you go online feel free to visit the Training Arena, and trainers like ren and I will be glad to answer your questions, and help you get set up. There are also a number of experienced players who frequent the TA if a trainer is not avalible.
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yes this is not BF2 so the fligh characteristics of these WW2 planes *hint* *hint* will be accurate and of course a prop plane will not be able to turn like crazy and im guessing you did this after takeoff try to gain some altitude and do high speed turns in a P-51 but not very many planes can hold a flat turn the whole turn well. But your joystick is like the flight stick or whatever if you center yours it will center thus put you back ish but shouldn't make you go into level flight but if you push X it will auto level you.
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You also wana turn off stall limmiter... it seriously affects your planes flight performance...
Tex
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Welcome to AH2 hornet.
You dont need to "buy" the game. What you downloaded is the full version. You only have to pay a monthly fee (14.95 USD) to be able to use the online arenas after your two week trial period.
Yes, flight model needs some getting used to. Low speed stalling is normal, depending also on fuel and bomb loadout and plane type. What i want to say is: Flying a fully loaded P51D is a lot harder then a SpitfireMkIX with only 50% fuel and no bombs.
I recommend you take a look at the HELP file as well as http://www.netaces.org . Both have a great deal of info on how to get started, stick setup and everything. If you run into any trouble, never hesitate to ask.
Use your two week online free trial to get some time with trainers in the Training Arena. They will help you with basic flying up to advanced fighting tactics.
I hope to see you up in the air soon :).
Schatzi
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i really think my dads 182 handles better than these planes. maybe ill try some more and see what happens.
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If your gonna play any game , this one is worth your time to learn IMO .
Take your time and have fun learning it , alot been here years doing the same .
cu up
Spro
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i thank everyone for helping
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hes not coming back is he...
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The point in a fighter plane is to handle extremly sharp and instable, that gives best performance in combat.
The point of a civil airplane to handle save and stable, opposite of a fighter airplane.
When you fly a 700kg 200hp cessna its definetly diffrent to a 5ton 2000hp fighter. When the fighter stalls at 100mph totally and you fly turns at 120mph your about to fall out of air.
Whats the stall speed of your 182 cessna? 65mph? guessing here... but for sure you would not pull a 45 degree banked turn at 70mph then, because the cessna would fall down... which definetly hurts. I guess you didnt try that with the cessna, since when you get the stick its already savely above stall speed?
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Originally posted by TexMurphy
You also wana turn off stall limmiter... it seriously affects your planes flight performance...
Tex
really?
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Originally posted by scottydawg
really?
Yepp... since you cant get anywhere near the stal with the stall limmiter you cant get all the manouverability out of it...
Tex
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Dang, I'll have to check that out. I don't mind flat spins, makes you harder to hit.
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Originally posted by scottydawg
Dang, I'll have to check that out. I don't mind flat spins, makes you harder to hit.
:lol
Stall recovery is a very important skill and can be easily practiced :).
Things that help you regain control:
- Nose down!
- rudder opposite spin
- Chop throttle (sometimes "playing" with throttle carefully might be required)
- retract flaps if they are down (while they add lift at slow speed, they keep you from regaining steady airstream on your wing)
- as little aileron input as possible - none is best (same prob as flaps)
Things that might help, but only use if you cant recover otherwise:
- turn off engine (i cant tell you why, but it sometimes helps)
- drop gear for a second or two (the drag seems to stabilize the plane)
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In fact intentional stalls can sometimes be very usefull.
For instance when your e-fighting someone and you push your plane as high up as you can to store away the E you can, if you know where the envelope is, use a controlled stall to help swing your nose around to get into the decending part of your manouver.
Thats something you cant ever do with the stall limmiter...
Tex
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Triming your elev down helps also , alot in a Mustang , we learned the hard way :)