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General Forums => Wishlist => Topic started by: SgtDibs on April 20, 2006, 08:36:41 PM
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Think we'll ever get the P61 Black Widow? Comments?
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The widow would be cool.
:cool:
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I think thats one of those like the B-25 and B-29 that got put on the "Never List".
I say that because I figure that with all the request made for these planes, at some point the HTC folks would, I'd hope, say that they would either be considered as future add ons or tell us out and out to just drop it we'd never get them.
Then again they probably leave each night throwing money in a pot and taking bets on what people will request in the wishlist the next morning.
:)
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Why say "no" to the B-25. It's got practically the same loadout as the b-26. Except adding the B-25 would just make people in the SEA arenas ask for dolittle raid maps.
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B-25 would be a great addition to the plane set, however the Blackwidow wouldn't be.
It would be used in AH in a role that it was not intended for. Sure, the Blackwidow flew a limited number of day sorties but it was primarily a night attack/fighter. But in AH with it's lack of night, it would never be used in that role.
ack-ack
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Having nightfighters with working radar WOULD be an incentive to bring back full night.
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B25 is an early/midwar bomber, B26 is a mid/latewar bomber.
B25 has 1.5k ord normal load (3x500lbs) or I think at most 2k ord max load (2x1000lbs), whereas B26 takes 4k (x3 bombers).
B25 -- if it had a solid nose -- would not have formations. B26 has formations.
Also B25 -- if it had a solid nose -- would have between 8x50cal and 12x50cal fixed and firing forward, later models carrying 4 rockets under the wings. It was a true ground attack craft. B26 has only 4x 50cal fixed forward and no rockets. Can't dive worth crap, loses elevators quickly, ailerons too. I can only hope/imagine the B25 is more sturdy to allow attacking things.
There's enough differences to warrant the B25. It was one of the most common bombers throughout the war.
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Krusty B15-j could carry three 1000 lb bombs.
Bronk
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Originally posted by Saxman
Having nightfighters with working radar WOULD be an incentive to bring back full night.
But with the ability to crank up the gamma in game, night time is a waste of code. Taking the gamma settings out of game will just cause players to alt+tab out of the game and tweak the gamma in the display properties.
ack-ack
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Originally posted by Ack-Ack
B-25 would be a great addition to the plane set, however the Blackwidow wouldn't be.
It would be used in AH in a role that it was not intended for. Sure, the Blackwidow flew a limited number of day sorties but it was primarily a night attack/fighter. But in AH with it's lack of night, it would never be used in that role.
ack-ack
Hmm ... Kinda like divebombing lancs ehh.
I'll never undestand people not wanting new ac that are within reason.
I'ts not like he asked for some Uber rare 3 cannon radial engined ... wait we have that. Bad example.
Bronk
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Originally posted by Krusty
B25 is an early/midwar bomber, B26 is a mid/latewar bomber.
B25 has 1.5k ord normal load (3x500lbs) or I think at most 2k ord max load (2x1000lbs), whereas B26 takes 4k (x3 bombers).
B25 -- if it had a solid nose -- would not have formations. B26 has formations.
Also B25 -- if it had a solid nose -- would have between 8x50cal and 12x50cal fixed and firing forward, later models carrying 4 rockets under the wings. It was a true ground attack craft. B26 has only 4x 50cal fixed forward and no rockets. Can't dive worth crap, loses elevators quickly, ailerons too. I can only hope/imagine the B25 is more sturdy to allow attacking things.
There's enough differences to warrant the B25. It was one of the most common bombers throughout the war.
they might add the B-25 when they get to Japan in the combat tour becuase it played a important role in the pacific theatre
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Black widow would rock, Id love to see it added to the game.
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The Black Widow has always been one of my favorites.
Had a chance to see the only restored one (that I know of) while visiting the Air Force Museum in Dayton.
I don't know if there are ANY still flying, so cranking one up in a sim environment would be cool.
Can you IMAGINE a P38 on steroids with a rear gunner and a radar operator??javascript:smilie(':eek:')
eek!
WOW!!!javascript:smilie(':aok')
aok
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What's not to love about forward-facing center-mounted 4x20mm and 4x.50 cal?
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We've been asking for the P-61 for at least 4 years. :cry
Originally posted by Ack-Ack
But with the ability to crank up the gamma in game, night time is a waste of code. Taking the gamma settings out of game will just cause players to alt+tab out of the game and tweak the gamma in the display properties.
ack-ack
Have you ever put two computers on your desk side by side with AH running with "night" turned on? There's a huge difference between some FEs and I was shocked the first time I did it. On my new machine with an LCD monitor I actually have to turn the gamma down to make it look like night but on my old P3 machine, night is a totally black screen. I don't mean dark, I mean black. Until you've seen the difference you'll never understand why people upped the gamma and that even then, it was probably still darker then what you were seeing.
I admin Close Escort and brought back the first special event in 3(?) years with night as the setup. I instruct people to adjust their gamma to a suitable setting so they can play it. I assure you this isn't cheating, it's giving folks the tool they need to enjoy the event instead of logging off in disgust.
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Had a chance to see the only restored one (that I know of) while visiting the Air Force Museum in Dayton
You mean this 1
(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/902_1152111962_jvcpics034.jpg)
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Originally posted by Ack-Ack
B-25 would be a great addition to the plane set, however the Blackwidow wouldn't be.
It would be used in AH in a role that it was not intended for. Sure, the Blackwidow flew a limited number of day sorties but it was primarily a night attack/fighter. But in AH with it's lack of night, it would never be used in that role.
ack-ack
And Heavy bombers flew a limited number of low level missions, and even fewer dive bombing missions but was primarily a high alt level bomber.
110s were primarily an attack plane and not a dog fighter.
C47s rarely willingly had troops bailing out of them while the plane was going verticle...or upside down
How planes were used and how they are used in the MA doesnt seem to be a prerequisite to them being included here.
That they were used does.
And Im all for bringing back the night. But those who refuse to beleive their monitors are set up incorrectly dont want it
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Originally posted by Easyscor
We've been asking for the P-61 for at least 4 years. :cry
Have you ever put two computers on your desk side by side with AH running with "night" turned on? There's a huge difference between some FEs and I was shocked the first time I did it. On my new machine with an LCD monitor I actually have to turn the gamma down to make it look like night but on my old P3 machine, night is a totally black screen. I don't mean dark, I mean black. Until you've seen the difference you'll never understand why people upped the gamma and that even then, it was probably still darker then what you were seeing.
Same monitor used on both machines?
If on the old machine you were using its old monitor. You would have to turnt eh gamma up because of wear and tear on the monitor over the years.
I know there was a world of difference looking at my new monitor compaired to my old one
Now if you used the same monitor on both machines you probably had each machines graphic card settings set up differently for the monitors you used
I've seen the night. and in particularly the new night as its been redone.
if your monitor is set up correctly. seeing at Night should not be an issue
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Originally posted by AutoPilot
You mean this 1
(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/902_1152111962_jvcpics034.jpg)
YYYYYYYEP! That's the one.:D
A real Beauty isn't she?? :cool:
*lusting moan*
I was out looking around and find that I stand corrected. She (Moonlight Serenade) isn't the only one. There are actually 3 statics and there's a group is actually RESTORING one to flight.
Check 'em out @ http://www.maam.org/p61.html