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Title: a few unnoticed planes
Post by: helldiver on April 24, 2006, 06:03:25 PM
just a few german planes,
mistel composite plane
the condor
the greif
he 219
hs 129
me 210
ar 196
do 24
blohm und voss bv 138
he 162 salamander
go 244
hs 123
hs 126
ju 86
ju 188
me 323
me 410
Title: a few unnoticed planes
Post by: Debonair on April 24, 2006, 07:06:33 PM
yeah, i dodn't notice those were in AH either
Title: a few unnoticed planes
Post by: Raptor on April 24, 2006, 09:35:25 PM
Out of those the only ones likely to be added are the Ju-188 and the Me-410. Those have been brought up before and aren't as unnoticed as you may think
Title: a few unnoticed planes
Post by: RAIDER14 on April 24, 2006, 09:40:10 PM
the condor doesn't have any combat roles
Title: a few unnoticed planes
Post by: zorstorer on April 24, 2006, 09:55:07 PM
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Originally posted by RAIDER14
the condor doesn't have any combat roles


Getting shot down does not count?  ;)
Title: a few unnoticed planes
Post by: Treize69 on April 24, 2006, 09:59:39 PM
mistel composite plane- used less than a dozen times, more dangerous to its pilot than the enemy.

the condor- maritime patrol plane with very poor bombload. Won't happen without convoys for it to attack.

the greif- too late war, too small numbers, would be far too good (can't model the engine fires and construction faults).

he 219- only equipped one gruppe (I/NJG 1), theres no role for a nightfighter in AH.

hs 129- would be nice, but I can't see them making a badly performing tankbuster

me 210- maybe

ar 196- why do we need a patrol floatplane when we can't land and take off from the water??

do 24- we need a 3 engine seaplane like we need another Spitfire...

blohm und voss bv 138- Get off the seaplanes!

he 162 salamander- one kill, in action for about 2 weeks, ain't gonna happen.

go 244- why do we need that freak if we can't even get a Ju52?

hs 123- Biplane ground attacker? Out of service by 1940.

hs 126- seriously, what are you smoking?

ju 86- 1930s bomber, inferior in every way to the Ju 88, Do 17, He 111...

ju 188- This one we might get. Upgraded Ju 88, good bomber. Served a bigger role after 1943 than the 88 did.

me 323- This one would only be useful if they were to make a light tank or let it carry a Jeep or M3, but just a novelty or scenario plane. Hangar queen.

me 410- A bit more likely than the 210, was more succesful. Still no match for the US escorts though.
Title: a few unnoticed planes
Post by: helldiver on April 26, 2006, 08:04:47 PM
still the mistel should be an option on the 109 and 190 (mistel1 and mistel 2
Title: a few unnoticed planes
Post by: Brenjen on April 26, 2006, 08:32:49 PM
The ME-410/variants are one of my wishes as well. That and the Panther.
Title: a few unnoticed planes
Post by: mussie on April 27, 2006, 03:14:04 PM
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Originally posted by Treize69

hs 126- seriously, what are you smoking?
 


Just had a look and I agree Cut back the doseage.... :D
Title: a few unnoticed planes
Post by: Mustaine on April 27, 2006, 03:23:35 PM
and he doesn't mention the HE-111 even :confused:
Title: a few unnoticed planes
Post by: helldiver on April 27, 2006, 04:11:49 PM
updated list...
mistel composite plane
the condor
the greif
he 219
hs 129
me 210
ar 196
do 24
blohm und voss bv 138
he 162 salamander
go 244
hs 123
hs 126
ju 86
ju 188
me 323
me 410
jap plane
baka bomb
u.s. planes
p-61
a-26
dumbo
p-43
brit planes
walrus
sea fury
hudson.
that's all
Title: a few unnoticed planes
Post by: helldiver on April 27, 2006, 06:35:39 PM
hello!
Title: a few unnoticed planes
Post by: Raptor on April 27, 2006, 08:38:32 PM
You're list is not all that great. Sorry but most of those will not happen.
My list (3 planes per country)
German Planes:
Me-410
Ju-188
He-111

US Planes:
P-39
Helldiver (Kind of surprised you didn't bring it up)
B-25

Brit Planes:
Fighter version of moss
Helifax
Beaufighter

Japanese:
Ki-44
Judy
Betty

Soviet:
yak3
Mig3
Pe-2
Title: a few unnoticed planes
Post by: Sakai on May 01, 2006, 11:04:54 AM
Raptor:

That's a workable list.  I think either the Ju188 or the Do-217 would make a swell German addition.

I think also you do need to consider the Sparveiro or Alcione to flesh out Axis airpower.

Someone said the Hs123 was out of action by 1940, that's not entirely accurate and really this would be a great plane:

It was sturdy and incredibly accurate in delivery.  It was so wildly popular with pilots and the men it supported that there were calls to start building it again when they ran out of them in I think late 1944-early 1945.

It makes a great plane to add, but only after the Gloster Glad and Fiat Cr42 are added, and those only after we get the SM79, He-111, Do217, P-39, Early war Jap bomber (Sally or Helen, the 48 was I seem to recall the better armored plane) etc. . . . . that is to say, after we have say 12-20 other planes I'd love to see the Hs123--great plabe for destroying tanks in the desert (strafing version had 2x20mms).

On your list the ones with the best chance of making it into the arena I reckon would be the He-111 and the Pe-2.  I would bet we'd see the 111 first, maybe even soon, because you can't hardly have a Combat Theatre roll out without one can you?

Also need the Wellington for English planes.  The Helldiver is about my last wish for an American plane because between the TBM and the fighters loaded up on CVs I feel we have enough excellent blue stuff for a time.

Sakai
Title: a few unnoticed planes
Post by: Arlo on May 01, 2006, 11:10:04 AM
Yeah ... what AH needs is the entire inventory of German aircraft added before anything else. Ahem. Same for tanks. *cough* ;)
Title: a few unnoticed planes
Post by: Sakai on May 01, 2006, 11:28:29 AM
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Originally posted by Arlo
Yeah ... what AH needs is the entire inventory of German aircraft added before anything else. Ahem. Same for tanks. *cough* ;)


Or, Alice's Restaraunt piped into every plane, briefing room and GV intercom.

Arlo's point is well taken, the lad who started the thread simply said "Deutschland, Deutchsland here' your plaaaaane set . . ."

Sung to a catchy tune, too.

Sakai
Title: a few unnoticed planes
Post by: Arlo on May 01, 2006, 12:32:40 PM
You can do anything you want .....

:D
Title: a few unnoticed planes
Post by: Brenjen on May 01, 2006, 01:11:21 PM
I didn't see the Focke-Wulf Ta 183 listed.....I mean, heck, since we're dreaming :D
Title: a few unnoticed planes
Post by: dizman on May 01, 2006, 09:14:09 PM
Everyone is always forgetting the Pe-8, just because it was big, slow, outdated, and outguned doesnt mean that we shouldnt have it. I mean come on, COME ON! It could carry a 5000lb or somethin bomb o-serious death. You can even kill planes with that thing. He-111 is also a plane that we seriously need. Its alittle out there but the mistel would be quite badass indeed, i mean comeon, its a giant (I think 1 ton) warhead attached to a ju-88, who doesnt want that (except for tankers)?
Title: a few unnoticed planes
Post by: Sakai on May 02, 2006, 08:01:02 AM
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Originally posted by dizman
Everyone is always forgetting the Pe-8


Petylyakov (Pe) 8 was not a bad plane, but was built in few numbers and used as much as the Grief was or less.  It was famous for bombing Berlin a single time early on (had great range as I recall) and ferrying Russian dignitaries.

Sakai
Title: a few unnoticed planes
Post by: Nemeth on May 05, 2006, 08:56:24 PM
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Originally posted by Raptor01
Brit Planes:
Fighter version of moss
Helifax
Beaufighter




the HALAFAX was a canadian plane not british, there is a slight difference
Title: Halafax
Post by: frank3 on May 06, 2006, 05:50:50 AM
You're both wrong, it's Halifax :)

(http://www.stelzriede.com/ms/photos/planes/halifax.jpg)
Title: a few unnoticed planes
Post by: Furball on May 13, 2006, 05:40:12 AM
These are in AH??

Do i not have the rank to see them? :mad:
Title: a few unnoticed planes
Post by: helldiver on May 13, 2006, 09:08:54 AM
they are not in AH furball. oh and thanks for soprting my other plane request!:D :aok :aok :D :aok :aok
Title: a few unnoticed planes
Post by: tedrbr on May 14, 2006, 03:26:57 AM
What, no one wants the Stinson L-5 Sentinel (akaU-19; O-62; OY-1; OY-2; Sentinel Mk.I/II.....etc etc...)?  Nicknamed the "flying jeep".  We could give the pilot a rifle to shoot out the window.
Specifications (L-5):
        Engine: One 185-hp Lycoming O-435-1 flat-six piston engine
        Weight: Empty 1,550 lbs., Max Takeoff 2,020 lbs.
        Wing Span: 34ft. 0in.
        Length: 24ft. 1in.
        Height: 7ft. 11in.
        Performance:
            Maximum Speed: 130 mph
            Ceiling: 15,800 ft.
            Range: 360 miles
        Armament: None

Or the Piper L-4 / O-59 / L-18 "Grasshopper", or Cessna L-19 / O-1 Bird Dog ?


The Messerschmitt Me 323 "Gigant" Heavy transport was mentioned....heck yes I'd spend my buff perkies on a butt-ugly plane that could drop 10 field supplies or 100 troops in one drop.....  a big, slow, ARMED , goon!

The Heinkel He 177A-3 (or later) Greif (Griffin) Heavy bomber.... 1,000 were made, so as a perked buff, sure.  Later models were not quite as Zippo-like.  A little more bomb load than Lanc, decent turrents, and quite a bit faster than a Lanc.  Nice alternative to not getting the B-29.

He-111 would be nice for senerios of th Battle of Britain, but totally outclassed in the MA.

Betty?  Could we have the heavy fighter escort version....no bombload, but 20mm's at most of the turrent positions?

We'll never see the B-25 cause they don't want to hear incessant whining about a carrier launched version......

A-26...sure.... we got the P-47 N-model, a late-war model to be sure, so why not the A-26.... but American numbers pretty well rounded already in plane types.

I'd definately vote for a second perk-bomber before any new fighters or GV's.....  

....though I'd still like a General Patton version of the jeep....where he stands in the passenger seat, shiny helmet on, firing his .45 at passing planes..... and a jeep with a recoiless rifle (60mm or 90mm) centerline plus a .30 cal for the passenger, and painted in Desert Rat colors.