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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: Schatzi on April 25, 2006, 05:15:54 AM
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Theres been a lot of strange things going on lately in the MA. I dont know what to think about it, i dont know what to do about it. Feels like im slowly going mad.
Ingame netstat is flatline, ping a steady 141, no PL on startup screen.
Heres some of the "happenings"
- dissappearing planes, no kill, no trace, not reappering anywhere
- planes without icons
- 2 bomber drons (no icon) hanging motionless in the air above a field
- rubber bullets (i know they dont exist, but they do): Im 150 off another plane in my 110, hes not evading, i put almost ALL my ammo into the guy, never seing a single hit sprite. Huh? how the h*** did i miss that much? While im still wondering the guy suddenly falls into a thousand pieces 5 secs AFTER i stopped firing, still no visible hit sprites. No one else in firing range either
-my hit% didnt drop much, but i seem to MISS almost all my shots, my *felt* hit% should be about 1-2% max, cant get more then 1 or 2 kills with Hurr before running out of ammo, where i used to easily have ammo for 4 or 5
- many a plane suddenly start firing when im 150 off their tail (i dont know it, but i think they see me in front of them)
- a planes icon dissappears and suddenly reappears (film here (http://www.slowcat.de/slowcats1/films/noicon.ahf) - Edit: If you look from my plane, the B26 looses its icon for a few secs, watched from the B26s view, he never does.... weird)
- i loose sight of enemies in fights a lot more in the last week. i know i know, it might be my SA, but it feels strange.... i *know* i can track an opponent in a 1 vs 1.... and i wouldnt wonder if it happened once... but its about half of my fights.
AH Main just feels downright spooky.
Am i the only one? Any ideas what might be the cause? Anything i can check on my end to find out whats going on?
Please, someone tell me im not crazy (at least not more then I used to....)
PS: Two ping tracers on the MA from this morning:
Target Name: N/A
IP: 206.16.60.39
Date/Time: 25.04.2006 11:55:21
1 1 ms 0 ms 1 ms 0 ms 0 ms 0 ms 0 ms 0 ms 0 ms 0 ms 0 ms 0 ms 1 ms 0 ms 1 ms localhost [192.168.1.1]
2 20 ms 19 ms -32764 ms 20 ms -32764 ms 20 ms 19 ms 21 ms 20 ms 21 ms 21 ms 19 ms -32764 ms 19 ms 21 ms dslb-082-083-192-001.pools.arcor-ip.net [82.83.192.1]
3 21 ms 20 ms 53 ms 21 ms * 20 ms 19 ms 21 ms 20 ms 19 ms 21 ms 20 ms 52 ms 19 ms 20 ms han-145-254-11-201.arcor-ip.net [145.254.11.201]
4 21 ms 23 ms 21 ms 23 ms 22 ms 23 ms 22 ms 21 ms 22 ms 22 ms 23 ms 22 ms 24 ms 22 ms 21 ms hmb-145-254-18-142.arcor-ip.net [145.254.18.142]
5 22 ms 24 ms 22 ms 24 ms 23 ms 21 ms 23 ms 22 ms 24 ms 40 ms 22 ms 24 ms 22 ms 23 ms 22 ms so-2-0-0.ar2.ham1.gblx.net [64.215.181.93]
6 109 ms 108 ms 110 ms 108 ms 110 ms 119 ms 7 ms 109 ms 108 ms 12 ms 109 ms 110 ms 109 ms 110 ms 109 ms so7-2-0-2488M.ar1.DCA3.gblx.net [67.17.64.69]
7 349 ms -32764 ms -32764 ms -32764 ms -32764 ms 351 ms 7 ms -32764 ms -32764 ms -32764 ms -32764 ms -32764 ms 477 ms * 350 ms mdf1-bi8k-1-eth-2-1.dal1.attens.net [63.241.192.194]
8 -32764 ms 24 ms 21 ms 26 ms 6 ms -32764 ms -32764 ms 352 ms * * * 335 ms * 303 ms * mdf1-bi8k-1-eth-2-1.dal1.attens.net [63.241.192.194]
9 * * -32764 ms 35 ms * * 131 ms -32764 ms * * * -32764 ms 36 ms * * att-3.ar1.DCA3.gblx.net [208.50.13.254]
10 21 ms 35 ms 21 ms * 21 ms 19 ms * 20 ms 35 ms * 4 ms 34 ms * 19 ms 20 ms att-3.ar1.DCA3.gblx.net [208.50.13.254]
11 55 ms * 67 ms 39 ms 53 ms 53 ms * 54 ms * -32764 ms 38 ms * 70 ms 37 ms 55 ms tbr1-p011701.wswdc.ip.att.net [12.123.9.114]
12 * 23 ms * * * * 21 ms * 38 ms 21 ms * 37 ms * * * tbr1-p011701.wswdc.ip.att.net [12.123.9.114]
13 -32764 ms -32764 ms * * 23 ms 24 ms 24 ms 22 ms 8 ms 23 ms 24 ms * * * 22 ms tbr1-cl4.sl9mo.ip.att.net [12.122.10.30]
14 * 24 ms 6 ms 41 ms -32764 ms -32764 ms -32764 ms * -32764 ms * * 24 ms 22 ms 23 ms * tbr1-cl4.sl9mo.ip.att.net [12.122.10.30]
15 -32764 ms -32764 ms -32764 ms -32764 ms * -32764 ms -32764 ms -32764 ms 25 ms 8 ms 9 ms 9 ms 7 ms 25 ms 8 ms tbr2-cl6.dlstx.ip.att.net [12.122.10.90]
16 7 ms 256 ms 23 ms 38 ms 8 ms 6 ms 8 ms 7 ms 6 ms 8 ms 22 ms 8 ms 7 ms 37 ms 7 ms gbr2-p100.dlstx.ip.att.net [12.122.12.82]
17 * * * 262 ms * * * * * * 301 ms 3 ms 5 ms 292 ms 4 ms gar1-p370.dlstx.ip.att.net [12.123.16.237]
18 5 ms 37 ms 22 ms 22 ms 21 ms 7 ms 6 ms 8 ms 22 ms 5 ms 23 ms 6 ms 8 ms 6 ms 8 ms mdf1-gsr12-2-pos-7-0.dal1.attens.net [12.122.255.170]
19 145 ms 146 ms 145 ms 147 ms 146 ms 146 ms 147 ms 147 ms 147 ms 145 ms 147 ms 145 ms 147 ms 146 ms 147 ms [206.16.60.39]
Target Name: N/A
IP: 206.16.60.39
Date/Time: 25.04.2006 12:03:11
1 0 ms 0 ms 0 ms 0 ms 0 ms 0 ms 0 ms 0 ms 0 ms 0 ms 0 ms 0 ms 0 ms 0 ms 0 ms localhost [192.168.1.1]
2 21 ms 21 ms 20 ms 21 ms 20 ms 19 ms 20 ms 21 ms 20 ms 20 ms 21 ms 20 ms 19 ms 20 ms 20 ms dslb-082-083-192-001.pools.arcor-ip.net [82.83.192.1]
3 19 ms 21 ms 19 ms 21 ms 20 ms 19 ms 20 ms 19 ms 21 ms 20 ms 19 ms 21 ms 19 ms 21 ms 20 ms han-145-254-11-201.arcor-ip.net [145.254.11.201]
4 21 ms 23 ms 22 ms 20 ms 23 ms 21 ms 23 ms 22 ms 21 ms 23 ms 22 ms 23 ms 23 ms 21 ms 23 ms hmb-145-254-18-142.arcor-ip.net [145.254.18.142]
5 23 ms 21 ms 24 ms 22 ms 22 ms 22 ms 21 ms 23 ms 22 ms 24 ms 23 ms 22 ms 24 ms 22 ms 24 ms so-2-0-0.ar2.ham1.gblx.net [64.215.181.93]
6 212 ms 108 ms 110 ms 14 ms 108 ms 110 ms 108 ms 110 ms 109 ms 108 ms 110 ms 109 ms 111 ms 109 ms 109 ms so7-2-0-2488M.ar1.DCA3.gblx.net [67.17.64.69]
7 * 351 ms 350 ms 352 ms 351 ms 350 ms 351 ms 350 ms 350 ms 351 ms 350 ms 352 ms 351 ms 350 ms 351 ms mdf1-bi8k-1-eth-2-1.dal1.attens.net [63.241.192.194]
8 321 ms * * * * * * * * * * * * * * mdf1-bi8k-1-eth-2-1.dal1.attens.net [63.241.192.194]
9 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * [-]
10 * 20 ms 21 ms * 19 ms 20 ms 19 ms 18 ms 20 ms 19 ms 21 ms 20 ms 19 ms 20 ms 19 ms att-3.ar1.DCA3.gblx.net [208.50.13.254]
11 -32764 ms -32764 ms -32764 ms -32764 ms 53 ms 52 ms 53 ms 52 ms 54 ms 53 ms 52 ms 54 ms 53 ms 54 ms 54 ms tbr1-p011701.wswdc.ip.att.net [12.123.9.114]
12 * * * 23 ms * * * * * * * * * * * tbr1-p011701.wswdc.ip.att.net [12.123.9.114]
13 23 ms 24 ms 24 ms 23 ms 24 ms 22 ms 24 ms 23 ms 23 ms 24 ms 23 ms 24 ms 24 ms 22 ms 25 ms tbr1-cl4.sl9mo.ip.att.net [12.122.10.30]
14 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * tbr1-cl4.sl9mo.ip.att.net [12.122.10.30]
15 6 ms 5 ms 6 ms 5 ms 7 ms 7 ms 7 ms 9 ms 8 ms 9 ms 8 ms 8 ms 9 ms 8 ms 7 ms tbr2-cl6.dlstx.ip.att.net [12.122.10.90]
16 8 ms 7 ms 7 ms 6 ms 6 ms 8 ms 6 ms 8 ms 7 ms 6 ms 8 ms 7 ms 8 ms 8 ms 6 ms gbr2-p100.dlstx.ip.att.net [12.122.12.82]
17 5 ms 4 ms 6 ms 4 ms 3 ms 3 ms 4 ms 3 ms 4 ms 3 ms 6 ms 4 ms 4 ms 4 ms 4 ms gar1-p370.dlstx.ip.att.net [12.123.16.237]
18 5 ms 7 ms 6 ms 8 ms 7 ms 9 ms 7 ms 6 ms 7 ms 6 ms 5 ms 8 ms 7 ms 8 ms 7 ms mdf1-gsr12-2-pos-7-0.dal1.attens.net [12.122.255.170]
19 145 ms 147 ms 144 ms 147 ms 146 ms 144 ms 146 ms 145 ms 144 ms 146 ms 145 ms 147 ms 146 ms 145 ms 147 ms [206.16.60.39]
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No ...you are not crazy. I too have noticed an extreme amount of lag in the last week. And it seems intermittant....game is fine for an hour and then awful for an hour then back to good again.
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My pings have been good, and pretty steady, but Im getting a lot of packet loss. Been going on for a few weeks, just thought it was the internet having a big hick-up or something
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Cause & effect. All of the above lag related.
Shooting someone full of lead to no effect, then having him explode 5, 10, 15, or 20 seconds later. Packets are logjammed, not getting through to him. Then all of a sudden they arrive. BANG he's dead in tower going WTF happened?
Your Alive with no ammo going WTF happened!
Fyi last week was rough for me as well. Worst I've seen in a couple of years.
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WOW I'M NOT CRAZY!
I was flying last night and I thought about half of the folks were messing with their modems but ONLY when I was 200-400 off their 6's.....very strange indeed.
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Deleted for flame
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Originally posted by Ghosth
Cause & effect. All of the above lag related.
Shooting someone full of lead to no effect, then having him explode 5, 10, 15, or 20 seconds later. Packets are logjammed, not getting through to him. Then all of a sudden they arrive. BANG he's dead in tower going WTF happened?
Your Alive with no ammo going WTF happened!
Fyi last week was rough for me as well. Worst I've seen in a couple of years.
Yes, but what i dont understand is that my connect seems to be rock steady as far as variance in delay, ping and packet loss go. But then, when have i ever understood anything about the internet.....
Is there anything one can do to help things? (Besides avoiding the MA...)
PS: Dedalos, you *flamed* my thread?? Im SHOCKED! :eek:
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Schatzi I can tell you that ghi had problems staying connected yesterday. Most of the guys in the FC were losing UDP. Something seems to be "off". By the same token, the entire internet seemed sluggish yesterday.
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The invisible plane deal I have been seeing a lot of lately.
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Schatzi: Your trace route shows the problem with dal1.attens.net.
Issues like this can be very spoty. Some time every thing will be clean then for a few mins, all go hay wire. I would assume that router is in dallas, and hence other people would be having the same issue.
We will make some calls and see if we can help.
HiTech
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Yeah I had some of the same happening last night as well. I unloaded a wole clip into a YAK with no kill and hit sprites up the wazoo.
Also it seemed every time I pulled back on the stick in the spit 8 it snap rolled. I was flying the 8 successfully a lot, until last night, and eventually gave it up because it seemed bugged??? I jumped in a Hog and all was well.
Oh well musta been my lucky night LOL.
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Originally posted by Max
Schatzi I can tell you that ghi had problems staying connected yesterday. Most of the guys in the FC were losing UDP. Something seems to be "off". By the same token, the entire internet seemed sluggish yesterday.
I got disco, 30-40 times, last 3 days, The internet works ok, i'm on the same computer,now, same comection Bell Toronto, dsl. Last evening i called Bell's technicians came and checked my modem, cables, tested :everythink ,ok. I reinstaled the game, same , unstable UDP :furious
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hey Shatzi ,
i saw the same no icon 2 bomber formation yesterday,around 2 in the afternoon. they were higher than i was,i ignored them ,went about wacking for a bit,on my way back to base i saw them at about 1k,i was 5 or 6 ,still no icon.
i dove on them,2 lancs, picked one and drilled it. it never returned fire and i was instantly kill shot.
fyi my ping is always in the 15 -30 range,i have cable (roadrunner) and live in austin, reletively close to dallas.other than getting dropped now and then its been reliable.
the wierd bombers are the only thing ive noticed, i'd have to actually shoot near a plane to see hits or no hits.
good luck
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Originally posted by hitech
Schatzi: Your trace route shows the problem with dal1.attens.net.
Issues like this can be very spoty. Some time every thing will be clean then for a few mins, all go hay wire. I would assume that router is in dallas, and hence other people would be having the same issue.
We will make some calls and see if we can help.
HiTech
Wow, thats great! Thank you very much.
If you need any more ping data or any other info from my part, ill gladly provide that.
>>S<<
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(http://www.slowcat.de/slowcats1/films/ahss0.jpg)
Those two drones just appeard over a friendly base, hung in the air motionless and then dissppeared again. Never an icon, no bomber close that they couldve belonged to. They were about 4-5 k AGL.
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Originally posted by Schatzi
PS: Dedalos, you *flamed* my thread?? Im SHOCKED! :eek:
:rofl Not you. The coad
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FWIW Sunday night I saw all of the above things happening. Logged off after an hour ... just wasn't worth the trouble. I know that SBC (ATT ... M-O-U-S-E) has been having their own "issues" here in LA the last week ... a DNS server went completely offline for 8 hours. So I wouldn't be surprised if that was what caused my problems ... but a lot of other people on Sunday were reporting weirdness ... and this is the first Sunday in a while I recall seeing that much griping (about lag, anyway).
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Don't you guys see? You're only fooling yourself if you don't.
It's the beginning of the end, the birthing pains that begin shortly before.....
06/06/06 if you thought Y2K was going to be the BIG ONE then you were sadly mistaken...
All the signs are before you...Why do you think HTC is changing office space? It's not an "Office" they are moving into a BUNKER!
"Welcome to Machine...." Clueless Dolts.
:noid
*paranoid ranting off*
Mac
*We now return you to your regularly scheduled whines already in progress...*
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See what happens to the server when some twit flys into the twilight zone
:noid
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Originally posted by mussie
See what happens to the server when some twit flys into the twilight zone
:noid
:rofl
Game has become basically unplayable for me. I cant get any kills. Half of my bullets dissappear, target micro warping doesnt make things easier....
I hope the net decides its time for some smoothness again soon :(.
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The lag these days is freaking rediculous..might as well snail mail your
packets in :(
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Well the move may be whats up with my problem. It was just crashing randomly; but as of about 10 minutes ago....I can't even get it to load! I just get the "send error report to microslave" pop-up & it shuts down immediately.
First my payment didn't go through & I had to make a long distance phone call to tell them my card wasn't lost or stolen ( they were about to cancel my account the same day! ) I make the payment & *boom* I can't even play the game now......I want a refund or a thousand perk bonus or something!
Kidding about the refund & the perkies but I am aggravated. I get discoed trying to defend a base when it was about to fall & every hand was needed on deck. I keep getting tanks killed by 20mm rounds from F4U-c's.....it happened most recently today.....ggrrrrrr.:mad:
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I'm firmly convinced that all this network weirdness is all part of HT's evile plan to make sure that at the Con you ask him something other than: "When's CT going to be released?" :D
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I'm seeing ALLOT (upwards of 20%) of packet loss at the final Dallas hop but also seeing it 1 to 5% loss at other hops in my route.
They all SEEM to act up at about the same time.
I can fix it part of the time in pingplotter by doing a reset but my AH connect just stays trashed it SEEMS.
Both sad and glade to here I'm not alone.
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I've noticed cons which appeared to be losing parts continuously. They'd fly along and then you see a part about the same size as their pixel seem to depart the plane then dissapear. A few seconds later it would do it again.
It happened many times during a 2 hour session on Monday evening.
Otherwise, everything seemed normal.
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Whats most strange to me was that last night, game was acting up on my computer, while Schutt (next door room, same router/connect) didnt report any trouble at all.
Hunted for Spyware/AV strange processes.... cant find a dang thing.
Brenjen, check the News... you might have run into the office move when unable to connect....
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Originally posted by DamnedRen
I've noticed cons which appeared to be losing parts continuously. They'd fly along and then you see a part about the same size as their pixel seem to depart the plane then dissapear. A few seconds later it would do it again.
It happened many times during a 2 hour session on Monday evening.
Otherwise, everything seemed normal.
I've seen that alot. To the point where I know who's flying a particular plane, as he has this little "dot" that keeps appearing to fall off his ride. it's their connection. I tend to avoid that guy in a fight.
but whole hearted agreement of "something weired going on" somewhere.
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Originally posted by Schatzi
Brenjen, check the News... you might have run into the office move when unable to connect....
:D Read the first sentence in my post :rofl This complete crashing didn't start until *after* the move, but I'm sure it's all tied in together. just a P.I.T.A.
Schatzi
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Originally posted by Brenjen
:D Read the first sentence in my post :rofl This complete crashing didn't start until *after* the move, but I'm sure it's all tied in together. just a P.I.T.A.
Schatzi
:o :rofl
Im a Vet, I cant read nor count! :)
>S< Brenjen
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Originally posted by DamnedRen
I've noticed cons which appeared to be losing parts continuously. They'd fly along and then you see a part about the same size as their pixel seem to depart the plane then dissapear. A few seconds later it would do it again.
It happened many times during a 2 hour session on Monday evening.
Otherwise, everything seemed normal.
Seen those for months, thought they were just empty beer cans....
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Originally posted by Schatzi
Whats most strange to me was that last night, game was acting up on my computer, while Schutt (next door room, same router/connect) didnt report any trouble at all.
Hmmmmm, I kinda wonder that yer connect might not be as broadband as you might think. I seem to remember the days when someone would be up flying while downloading something on their computer at the same time. If I remember rightly we'd see all kinds of warps and other strange things happening until they completed their dl. I may be wrong but this makes me wonder that 2 people using the same isp path/information link to play the same game at the same time might be causing lags and warping? There is a lot of data that has to make it from for you home base to the server and back and you double it when both are on. Maybe sometimes it's fine (depending on path/usage) yet others it can cause problems. Skuzzy might be able to provide more info on the subject than I can.
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Ren!!! *lightbulb* Thanks, you just gave me an idea....... :)
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I have the same problems, lag and packet loss. and bad delays when i end flight or click on tower or hanger. I usually have a very steady connect but the last few days have been bad
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You know it's bad when your strafing ack in a niki and the ack doesn't pop. :D
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Naw, lag is when you shoot a guy up and continue to fly for another 45 minutes then rtb. On turning short final you get, "you have shot down XXXX". Now that's lag! :D
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It's DiveFlap and Meatwad's fault:
New World (http://www.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=176414)
This stunt created a rip in the AH space time continuum.
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I contacted Skuzzy about my problem & he suggested a couple things to try ( I have random crashes now, didn't prior to the server move ) I'm not sure if they are fixed now or not, only time will tell. But my point is this; I'm thinking if you were online during the move ( I was ) there was some data corruption in the game files. I've been seriously considering deleting & re-installing AH if what Skuzzy suggested fixes my crashes ( he had me delete cache,skins & settings folders ), because then I'll be wondering what else might have been corrupted that I don't know about ( yet )
Just the ramblings of a tired old man; forgive me if it made no sense.
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I had teh most extreme case of lag I've EVER come across...
Was RTBing in wounded f4u-1 being chased by a Ki-84. Gradually extended to 4.5 k...kept checking rear view, gradually fell back.
As approached base, wanted to see what auto level would do with 1/2 R wing gone, so quickly checked my 6 and saw con 4.5 back.
Looked forward...heard pings and lost rest of wing. The Ki had suddenly appeard at D400.
He was only con on radar, later confirmed with Ki that he was only one there. He saw me waroping all over, and i saw him doing same; we both had absolutely flat net status rigth after.
Never seen 4K warp before!
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WHOA
My connection today is BONKERS!!!
Jumping from 12 hops to 15 hops and continually changing the address of all the hops from number 4 on??????
Seeing packets loss fluctuate upwards of 20% then clear then more. Seems to be doing it every ping? It is doing this while I'm surfing the net or while I fly in AH.
Noticed it while surfing the net and contacted my ISP.
We removed and reinstall TCP/IP and the modem drivers. This seems to have helped my machine steady down but connect still doing what it was.