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After watching the 3rd and final debate I must conclude that............
GORE IS A LOSER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
flame away libs I got plenty of that flame retardant jell stuff they use in all them fancy hollywood movies (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
Udie
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Didn't need beer or the debates to know about Gore.
Mav
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(http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif) me either, I need beer to listen to gore (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/eek.gif)
Udie <---keeping a safe distance away from his car keys
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I second that Udie
Eagler
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It could be that I am not drunk and perfectly rational but...
Bush sucks too!
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After watching the 3rd and final debate I must conclude that............
GORE IS A LOSER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Bummer - and the other one is a... How shall I put it?... Not very bright?... You guys have a great choice to make in 3 weeks time...
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lynx
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Neither candidate appeals to me. Gore seems nasty and I've tried hard to like Bush but every time I see him I get the feeling that he's not the brightest bulb in the box.
Honestly, the only candidate that makes any sense to me is that Libertarian fella, Harry Browne. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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Character, character, character... that is all you have to judge these two on. The rest is up to the administration each will choose to advise him on the issues. Do you think Clinton made any choices/decisions on his own these last 8 years other than what female to grope next in the Oral office? Put it this way, which one of these two guys would you rather have represent the morality of the country over the next 4 years? Gore the liar (admitted),cheat, stood behind a president convicted of perjury or Bush, the only Texas Gov to be re-elected for back to back terms based on his record. Bush isn't perfect, who the heck is, but he's head and shoulders above Gore.
Eagler
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Bush may stumble on some words every now and then, but that makes him no dumby. Good God the man has been govenor of the 2nd largest state in the USA since 1994. Of the 2 candidates he is the only one with executive experience. AND he was reelected by a strong majority (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif) he HAS a record of bringing democrats and republicans here in Tx. There's the insurance issue from the 2nd debate where Gore though he scored points saying there were so many people in Tx with out insurance. There may be, I'm one of them, but did Gore mention anything about our state healthcare system? NO You don't need insurance, we have LOT's of county hospitols where they base what you pay on how much money you earn. I know this for fact because I had surgery on a ganglean cyst in my left wrist that cost me $0.00. Guess what else, illegal aliens get the free medical care too (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
The one thing that disturbed me about the debate was the questions from the audience. They all seemed to be about what the government can do for "me". Personaly I don't think there is very much the government can do FOR anybody, but there's a bunch that it does TO people. I'd bet if you asked what the philosophical diference between a democrat and republican was, 75% of the country wouldn't be able to answer. That's DANGEROUS!!!
The media was funny this morning, all of them talking about how good Gore was. It's just that they forgot to mention that Gore broke the very rules that HE put into the debate, SOP if you ask me. Not once in the last 3 weeks have they reported about the cold that Bush has had, ever try to talk on national TV with your head filled with antihistaments?
I wonder what Gore's gonna do when he's outa polotics?
I said this once and I'll say it again.....
(http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/eek.gif) GORE IS THE DUMBARSE NOT BUSH!!!!!!!! (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/eek.gif)
"No controling legal authority"
"campaing finance will be the first thing I do in my administration."
2 quotes by Gore (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
Anybody else notice how many times Gore said, that will be the first thing I'll do in my administration? Oh yeah, I wonder when the press is going to report about the new "scandal" about Gore and the president of Russia and a signed agreement from Gore to keep information from congress? HMMMMM? That's real presidential...
The man belongs in prison with Klinton, NOT in the white house...
Udie
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Udie, you're one of the millions of media-fed cattle! (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/eek.gif)
You know, we can argue the merits of Bush and Gore until we're blue in the face but to me it's not the real issue. The real issue is why are we stuck debating the merits of these two losers?
Why aren't we discussing the merits of a dozen candidates?
I think one reason is that we have a heavily controlled media that won't give airplay to any other political parties. I'm hoping that the Internet will eventually provide a more equal playing field for future politicians. Otherwise the path this country is taking looks grim.
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Originally posted by blur:
Udie, you're one of the millions of media-fed cattle! (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/eek.gif)
You know, we can argue the merits of Bush and Gore until we're blue in the face but to me it's not the real issue. The real issue is why are we stuck debating the merits of these two losers?
Why aren't we discussing the merits of a dozen candidates?
I think one reason is that we have a heavily controlled media that won't give airplay to any other political parties. I'm hoping that the Internet will eventually provide a more equal playing field for future politicians. Otherwise the path this country is taking looks grim.
Blur, are you one of "those" voters who are going to waste your vote on Nader? Make it count at least, pick the lesser of these two evils and make a difference, at least be counted. On 2nd thought vote for Nader, it'll be one less vote for Gore (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
Eagler
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Udie, the spell checker suggests nudie as a replacement for your handle (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif) You should have stayed away from the con or the alcohol or both (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
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Originally posted by blur:
Udie, you're one of the millions of media-fed cattle! (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/eek.gif)
now that's funny! sorry bud I've been preaching against our media to all my friends for the last 7 yrs.
(http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/eek.gif) (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/eek.gif)I've got a brain and I know how to use it (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/eek.gif) (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/eek.gif)
You know, we can argue the merits of Bush and Gore until we're blue in the face but to me it's not the real issue. The real issue is why are we stuck debating the merits of these two losers?
There's no argument Gore has a record of which he's flip flopped on almost every issue in the 20+ years of his public "service", and a record or lies and desceat from the last 8 years. Bush on the other hand has succesfuly GOVERNED the 2nd largest state in the USA winning the respect of Republicans and Democrats alike. If he were allowed a 3rd term as govenor I bet he'd win with 80%
Why aren't we discussing the merits of a dozen candidates?
It's called the electorial proccess. Buchanan and Nader together garnish less than 5% in the polls, do you realy think they have a chance? with today's media?
I think one reason is that we have a heavily controlled media that won't give airplay to any other political parties.
No argument there, maybe they'd be higher in the polls if their messages were getting more media, especialy Buchanan.
I'm hoping that the Internet will eventually provide a more equal playing field for future politicians. Otherwise the path this country is taking looks grim.
I think the near future is grim already. It's scarey to think what Klinton got away with in the last 8 years. Who ever the next president is will be busy either fixing the problems or covering them up (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif) either way I fear we're in for tough times, 8 years of denial has a way of letting big problems get bigger.
udie
[This message has been edited by Udie (edited 10-18-2000).]
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Originally posted by Eagler:
Udie, the spell checker suggests nudie as a replacement for your handle (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif) You should have stayed away from the con or the alcohol or both (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
(http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/eek.gif) WOOOO WOOOO (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/eek.gif)
(http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/eek.gif) WOOOO WOOOO (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/eek.gif)
Let's all get nekkid!! (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
Udie
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[q]The one thing that disturbed me about the debate was the questions from the audience. They all seemed to be about what the government can do for "me". Personaly I don't think there is very much the government can do FOR anybody, but there's a bunch that it does TO people. I'd bet if you asked what the philosophical diference between a democrat and republican was, 75% of the country wouldn't be able to answer. That's DANGEROUS!!![/q]
Udie,I couldn't agree more. I missed the debate but I heard that the audience was really, really lame.
I heard on the radio that one woman asked this question or something similar:
"What do each of you Presidential Candidates intend to do to hold the parents accountible for seeing that the children are doing their homework?"
If that is true, and that woman represents the average voter, the country could be in serious trouble. Especially if the general population really wants to be told what to do, and relieved of personal responsibility, and be given womb to tomb care by the government. Ughhh
This country is already changing fast.
We've got the President getting illicit blowjobs in the Oval office and encouraging improper use of tobbaco products (sorry (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif))
We've got the United States of America witholding financial support from the Boy Scouts of America because they prefer not to have gays as Scoutmasters.
We've got the Girl Scout leadership hanging onto thier Federal support by doing the opposite, allowing lesbians to be ScoutMasters, (probably to train the girls as "Shock Troops" for the future generation of hard core pro-choice feminists)
We've got an educational system that is becoming fourth rate, leaving thousands of kids behind because they aren't learning.
We've got a weakened Military in a dangerous world...
... and we've got pathological liars in the Whitehouse.
It is disturbing.
Gunthr
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In 3 weeks we get to make a diference (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif) they're saying this will be the lowest voter turnout in our nations history. This means your vote counts even more (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif) 1 vote becomes the same as 2 or 3. As for me personaly, I am having problems figuring out which caused me more anxiety, waiting for the AH con or waiting to vote on Nov. 7. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
Udie
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Like the old saying...
Be careful what you wish for.
Not sayin' Gore is much more than a political wonk, but...
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...or, if you are going to be out of town, you can vote now.
I voted yesterday....for the Supreme Court Justice nominator of my choice!
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(they don't do anything else that really matters)
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Private Eye, No. 1011, 22 Sept. 2000
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From David Hackworth:
"We've got this argument going on between Bush and Gore," said Hackworth. "Bush says readiness sucks. Gore says everything's peachy keen. All of the brass are sitting there with their mouths shut. But now we don't have enough oilers to refuel that ship and we lose those people because our readiness is not squared away?"
Hackworth confirmed that 22 of the Navy's refueling tankers have been placed in mothballs since 1993, and that the overall fleet had declined from 435 ships to 311 during the Clinton-Gore years."
I vote that from now on we refuel in one of Dyslexia's ports rather than at one of Yemen's ports.
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Hehehehe has anyone seen Buchanan's latest commercial? Well its playing down here in Florida around 8pm on most of the major news channels. It has a guy eating, he then starts to choke. He proceeds to pick up the phone and dials 911. The message from 911 goes into its menu choice but instead of fire choose 1 police choose 2. It say for espanol chose 1, for german choose 2, for french choose 3 for japanese choose 4. Well it goes on to about 10 for english and by this time the guy is dead. Then a voice over says something like this, "those other candidates are letting everyon in and ruining our country blah blah blah blah. Man he is a comple section 8. Is this one of those "other candidates that you are talking about?
As far as algore goes, he has lost already. They did a nation wide poll from every class i think from grade 1-7. Bush beat algore hands down. Here is the kicker, this poll hasnt been wrong in years (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
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Retreat hell!! We're just attacking in another direction!
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Originally posted by Toad:
From David Hackworth:
"We've got this argument going on between Bush and Gore," said Hackworth. "Bush says readiness sucks. Gore says everything's peachy keen. All of the brass are sitting there with their mouths shut. But now we don't have enough oilers to refuel that ship and we lose those people because our readiness is not squared away?"
Hackworth confirmed that 22 of the Navy's refueling tankers have been placed in mothballs since 1993, and that the overall fleet had declined from 435 ships to 311 during the Clinton-Gore years."
I vote that from now on we refuel in one of Dyslexia's ports rather than at one of Yemen's ports.
[This message has been edited by Toad (edited 10-19-2000).]
If this country were to pull its head out of its collective bellybutton we'd be developing alternate energy sources, increasing mass transport, using technology to create virtual companies so no commute is required, etc.
Instead we parade the flag around on our "Imperial Battle Cruisers". Why do we do this? Just listen to any State Department briefing: we're there for "national" interests, "our" interests, "American" interests.
We don't give a hoot about the people in the Middle East. I don't blame them for hating our guts.
So, while our floating "peacemakers" insure the oil transport lanes stay open, we drive around in our gas-sucking 4 ton SUV's throwing cigarette butts out the window and eating quarter pounder cheeseburgers in the non-biodegradable containers.
Ah, the Law of Karma, it's going to bite us in the bellybutton sooner or later! (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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www.cnn.com (http://www.cnn.com)
"Meanwhile, the Navy said Thursday that it had recovered the final four bodies trapped in the wreckage of the destroyer bombed in Yemen one week ago, killing 17 U.S. sailors."
"Blur: If this country were to pull its head out of its collective bellybutton we'd be developing alternate energy sources, increasing mass transport, using technology to create virtual companies so no commute is required, etc."
...and if we had started 10 years ago, we'd almost have something we could put into a test program by now. It certainly wouldn't be "mass" yet.
Which doesn't change the fact that these 17 were sacrificed on the altar of the budget "peace dividend".
Bill, "if you need me, I'll be in England" Clinton and his able assistant Al "I can type 60 words a minute if I'm 60 miles from combat" Gore have brought the military down to the same level of "unreadiness" that I experienced under Jimbo "I stood too close to the nuke reactor in the sub" Carter.
I'd hate to tell you the illegal things I did as AC to keep an RC-135 flying recon missions directed by the NSA under Jimbo. I _think_ the statute of limitations has expired..but I'm not sure...so I'm not telling. The recon missions were used to update the SIOP on a daily basis. Without them, a lot of guys were going to die fast if we went to war (the BIG war).
It's always the same. The politicians cut and cut and cut the training and supplies and increase, increase, increase the mission requirements and deployments.
Somehow, it seems it's always the Democrats in office when it happens, too.
Go figure.
Sorry I can't feel humorous about the Cole.
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You guys should read the transcript from the 3rd debate. You need a translater to understand Bush.
Gore did an excellent job in the third debate. Bush looked like he didn't know where he was.
Anyone see Bush on Letterman lastnight? Or Gore on Rosie today? BIG difference.
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Originally posted by Igloo:
You guys should read the transcript from the 3rd debate. You need a translater to understand Bush.
Gore did an excellent job in the third debate. Bush looked like he didn't know where he was.
Anyone see Bush on Letterman lastnight? Or Gore on Rosie today? BIG difference.
Igloo,
If you have problems understanding Gov. Bush I suggest that you go back to school and learn to speak English. Yes, Gore did a good job too. That is if your defenition of a good job is breaking the very rules that you put into the debate and spreading even more lies. I'd give Gore a 100% in that regard. LOL the first thing I heard a pundant say after the debate was "did you hear any whoppers from Gore?" LOLOLOL
Yes I saw Letterman last night, Bush did a great job and looked to me like he enjoyed himself. I was suprised that Dave got "heavy". It realy stands out when you contrast what questions he asked hillary, better stated what question hillary allowed him to ask (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif) Didn't see Gore on Regis or Rosie, but I'd be willing to bet that the line of questioning was nothing like what Bush got last night.
and Bush now leads by 10 points.... 49 to 39 in yesterday's Gallop Pole. And I saw a CNN tracking poll today that has Bush at 50 and Gore at 40. So now the dems are getting out their sticks and rolling out the old dead carcus of the "Social Security" horse. They realy should start thinking about getting a new play book, although hopefuly for the USA they won't (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
The democrats made 1 HUGE mistake this election. They painted Gov. Bush as an idiot, which he's not. He even said last night that expectations were so low for him at the debates that all he had to do was show up and say Hello my name is George W. Bush.
ahhhhh 1pm tomarow, then it's all over but the wait for me.
Udie
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Hmmmm,....you know,..no matter who did what to who in the debates, I cannot get past the fact that Gore is a liar. I beleive most politicians are liars, but Gore is a really bad liar.
The lies are so blatant and obvious. I find it really, truly shocking that anyone would consider voting for him.
Pathological liars, such as Gore, belong on a porch in Bubbaville, where he could spend his days waxing poetically about "the one that got away". No one there would think twice about the lies.
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Gore may lie more than Bush, but Gore certianly has a better grip on the issues at hand, especially foriegn, than bush.
Yes, I saw the "whoppers" thing. I also remember the reply.
What's halarious is that republicans defend Bush's lack of response with Gore "breaking the rules". If Bush would have answered the questions directly, there wouldn't have been a problem. Much of his time was spent talking about something totally unrelated. One woman asked about education, and the next thing you know Bush is off about how he'll make the military stronger, yada, yada, yada.
What I meant with the transcript is that there are more "..." than words when Bush is speaking.
He just does not have the capability to be articulate and clear. That is something a world leader has to be, especially when dealing with issues like the Middle East.
"Well, I'll do it on their time...not impose our time on them.." Well, Duuuuh.. Of course...
What a nimrod.
I have the feeling that if Gore was Republican and Bush was a Democrat, you guys would be rooting for Gore.
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C/O RCAF 411 Squadron - County of York (http://www.trueorigins.net/411rcaf)
"Problems cannot be solved with the same awareness that created them" - Albert Einstein[/i]
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Many good and interesting points from both sides, mostly.
Yeah Bush kinda worries me, but I dont susbscribe to the philosophy that he (Bush) is an idiot. Only an idiot would say such a thing and believe it :P
Gore OTOH scares the hell out of me. I have watched him for 8 years and read his book. He is scary to the core. His beahvior is combative when a President needs to work with Congress, not fight with it. This was Clintons greatest failure and I see Gore simply continuing this unfortunate behavior. Also, Gore was givin chief command over Clintons energy policies and I dont see anything useful to come from it. Just gas prices nearly double what they were 8 years ago (which BTW, Gore supports even though publically he tries to give the impression that he wants to fix high gas prices...talk about honesty?).
Yes, Bush has me slightly uneasy but I know he was raised by good parents and is basically a pretty decent, common man. I think he probably will do a halfway decent job uniting Americans beyond our differences in abortion and gun control and will try to get congress to act on behalf of the American people, not it spite of them.
If Gore gets elected it will be just more of the same BS coming out of the executive branch. Im tired of Clinton and dont see Gore doing anything different and certainly, nothing better.
Thats all from little old me!
Yeager
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Originally posted by Igloo:
Gore may lie more than Bush, but Gore certainly has a better grip on the issues at hand, especially foreign, than bush.
Yes, I saw the "whoppers" thing. I also remember the reply.
What's halarious is that republicans defend Bush's lack of response with Gore "breaking the rules". If Bush would have answered the questions directly, there wouldn't have been a problem. Much of his time was spent talking about something totally unrelated. One woman asked about education, and the next thing you know Bush is off about how he'll make the military stronger, yada, yada, yada.
What I meant with the transcript is that there are more "..." than words when Bush is speaking.
He just does not have the capability to be articulate and clear. That is something a world leader has to be, especially when dealing with issues like the Middle East.
"Well, I'll do it on their time...not impose our time on them.." Well, Duuuuh.. Of course...
What a nimrod.
I have the feeling that if Gore was Republican and Bush was a Democrat, you guys would be rooting for Gore.
Igloo,
What ever you may think to the contrary. The MAIN INTEREST for the President is NOT foreign affairs. He is NOT elected to be a diplomat. There are people who do that for a living. He does not hold the world teetering on the brink of a precipice waiting for him to mispronounce or omit a word. Get a grip.
I think it's time for you to worry about your country and not about American politics. You seem to be hell bent for leather for Gore. Fine. Here's a clue. Your opinion counts for nothing as you cannot vote here, thankfully.
You seem to think that a fast talking liar is more valuable than a slower talking honest person. Just what passes for values up there??? You must think it's ok to lie, cheat and swindle then instead of being honest and forthright. I hope and pray that the voters of THIS country are intelligent enough to say that they are fed up with liars and deceit. You may want them but we don't.
Mav
Oh BTW a nimrod is much preferable to a liar and someone who can't recall the events of his life not to mention being a two faced hypocrite.