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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Sixpence on April 28, 2006, 09:41:38 PM
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Ok, I admit it, I count the days from the end of the season til the draft. It has the atmosphere of a playoff game, I can't find enough mock drafts to read.
How do you think your team will do and what are your draft wishes for your team?
It's hard to predict what the Patriots will do, Belichick and Pioli always seem to throw a curve ball. I am hoping for either an impact linebacker or defensive back.
I think the QB's are overated and teams at the top of the draft could score some extra picks by trading down. Honestly, I think the Texans should grab D'Brickashaw Ferguson. Carr has been getting killed, this would put an anchor at tackle to build on.
I think, imo, that the QB's could fall out of the top five picks
My top five
1.) Texans- D'Brickashaw Ferguson - If your QB is your biggest investment, protect that investment. I know, they have said to have signed Mario Williams, and that is good, but I would take the tackle.
2.) Saints- Mario Williams - If he is in the Jason Taylor/ Julius Peppers mold as they say he is, you can't go wrong. If D'Brickashaw Ferguson is available, I would grab him. But these are the saints, and a Reggie Bush/Vince Young/ Matt Leinart pick would not surprise me.
3.) Titans - Michael Huff - Ok, no way they are taking him, but I feel they are not going to take a QB and the stories out of Titans camp are just a smoke screen(as alot believe) I think Billy Volek can be their QB and can find another QB in later rounds to groom, their are some good prospects available. And I don't see them drafting Jay Cutler in this spot. So I see them trading down if Mario Williams and D'Brickashaw Ferguson are gone. If they are stuck with the pick, I see them drafting the best defensive player. I know, Reggie Bush is available here, and that's a good point, and maybe they take him, as maybe they should. But if Reggie is here at this point they could probably score a kings ransom for the pick.
4.) Jets - Reggie Bush - In a perfect world, the draft gods are smiling down on them and D'Brickashaw Ferguson falls into their lap, but Reggie Bush would fill a spot they could have had filled by not letting Lamont Jordan go. The Jets have lots of options here, and, well, they have lots of needs. Jay Cutler, Michael Huff and Vernon Davis are great picks here also. Jay Cutler could be the pick over Bush. trading down a few spots and taking Cutler is not an option, imo, as I feel the Packers would scoop him up.
5.) Packers - Jay Cutler - Ok, they probably would take Leinart or Young, but Cutler is the better QB, imo, and fills a need. I don't think they want to have to wait out another Brett Farve off season decision.
OK, their you have it, probably the worst mock you ever saw :)
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Texans already announced if you look at nfl.com that they have signed Mario Willaims to a 6 year deal.
Going skip over Saints and say that Titans will go after Leinhart or Cutler and Pakcers will go after the Leinhart or Cutler depending on which one hasnt been picked.
Think about it, Saints may try for A.J. Hawk.
Jets will try for Vince Young or Reggie Bush I see as they need a QB and Curtis Martin is on his way out.
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Originally posted by Hoarach
Texans already announced if you look at nfl.com that they have signed Mario Willaims to a 6 year deal.
Yeah, saw that, going by how I would draft. I guess they feel Carr can handle the beating
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Just like everything else he gets his hands on, Andy Reid will yet again **** up the draft.
What he will pick will be such stupid decisions and so random and entirely not what the team needs, so you'd be better off letting a monkey **** on a list of names to guess who will be drafted.
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Originally posted by Sixpence
I think, imo, that the QB's could fall out of the top five picks
My top five
1.) Texans- D'Brickashaw Ferguson - If your QB is your biggest investment, protect that investment. I know, they have said to have signed Mario Williams, and that is good, but I would take the tackle.
2.) Saints- Mario Williams - If he is in the Jason Taylor/ Julius Peppers mold as they say he is, you can't go wrong. If D'Brickashaw Ferguson is available, I would grab him. But these are the saints, and a Reggie Bush/Vince Young/ Matt Leinart pick would not surprise me.
3.) Titans - Michael Huff - Ok, no way they are taking him, but I feel they are not going to take a QB and the stories out of Titans camp are just a smoke screen(as alot believe) I think Billy Volek can be their QB and can find another QB in later rounds to groom, their are some good prospects available. And I don't see them drafting Jay Cutler in this spot. So I see them trading down if Mario Williams and D'Brickashaw Ferguson are gone. If they are stuck with the pick, I see them drafting the best defensive player. I know, Reggie Bush is available here, and that's a good point, and maybe they take him, as maybe they should. But if Reggie is here at this point they could probably score a kings ransom for the pick.
4.) Jets - Reggie Bush - In a perfect world, the draft gods are smiling down on them and D'Brickashaw Ferguson falls into their lap, but Reggie Bush would fill a spot they could have had filled by not letting Lamont Jordan go. The Jets have lots of options here, and, well, they have lots of needs. Jay Cutler, Michael Huff and Vernon Davis are great picks here also. Jay Cutler could be the pick over Bush. trading down a few spots and taking Cutler is not an option, imo, as I feel the Packers would scoop him up.
5.) Packers - Jay Cutler - Ok, they probably would take Leinart or Young, but Cutler is the better QB, imo, and fills a need. I don't think they want to have to wait out another Brett Farve off season decision.
#1 Wrong its going to be the guy from NC State. While I think that Ferguson would be the best pick for the long run We all know that management of NFL teams usually make the stupidest decisions on draft day. They are mindless and clueless as to what their needs are then and only get caught in the Tony Mandarich syndrome in my view.
#2 Look for NO to take Reggie Bush since the Texans are taking Williams
#3 Titans will take Leinart. I have a buddy who works for the Titans and if everything he says is true then Volek will be the starter this season and....Mcnair is gone; probably to Baltimore in a trade possibly today.
#4 Jets need a QB to back up Pennington. Look for them to go with either Cutler or Young; probably Young since he is the "sexy" pick of the draft and possibly another side of the Mandarich syndrome but only time will tell.
#5 Ferguson if no one else get him before now will go to the Packers. Odds are that the return of Favre to the Packers for his cya season means he may want to have a young stuf on the line to get him covered on the right side. Ferguson is athletic enough to make the transition to RT or anywhere else along the OL.
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I think the Titans select V.Young.
I want my Bengals to take the best defensive player that's there,although their biggest need is at defensive end.
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What the hell kinda name is "D'Brickashaw"?
That is THE dumbest name I've ever seen, and I've seen a lot of dumb ones.
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there are close ties between the jets & UVA.
little surprise then that they both sux.
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Originally posted by Urchin
What the hell kinda name is "D'Brickashaw"?
That is THE dumbest name I've ever seen, and I've seen a lot of dumb ones.
I believe the name comes from a character in "the thornbirds"
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Woot, another Bengals fan! I'm not alone after all.
:D
Jets passed on Leinart, I wonder what kind of rage Mike Greenberg is in now rofl.
:lol
Edit: btw, I ran into Carson Palmer on the driving range yesterday, he was swinging pain free and without a knee brace on. Think he's doing better than anyone expected.
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Originally posted by Reschke
#3 Titans will take Leinart. I have a buddy who works for the Titans and if everything he says is true then Volek will be the starter this season and....Mcnair is gone; probably to Baltimore in a trade possibly today.
Well, the rumor was that Jeff Fisher wanted Leinart and the GM wanted Young, and the owner backed the GM. Some thought it was a smokescreen(me included) to hide who they really wanted. Sounds like when Parcells wanted a defensive lineman and the GM(grier) wanted terry glenn, the owner backed the GM and Parcells bolted town( "if they want me to cook dinner, they should let me shop for the groceries").
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OK with the way this draft has gone Houston will be t3h suck! again. NO might be a power house with bush and brees. Arizona must jumping with joy cause they have James and now Leinart.
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Through all the torture and pain I've gone through being a Saints fan all my life, it sure feels good to be one now! REGGIE...REGGIE!
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Brilliant move PHILADELPHIA. (****ing retards). Not only have you picked up a position at which you already have good players, but you grabbed someone with chronic knee and health problems and has had run ins with the law.
You Andy Reid, are the biggest **** up since Stalin.
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:lol Vince Young to the Titans #3.......and Leinart goes #10...:rofl
Hook Em' Horns :aok
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Originally posted by lasersailor184
Brilliant move PHILADELPHIA. (****ing retards). Not only have you picked up a position at which you already have good players, but you grabbed someone with chronic knee and health problems and has had run ins with the law.
You Andy Reid, are the biggest **** up since Stalin.
T.O. left...they needed a replacement:lol
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No, not quite. Consider that T.O. was actually a GREAT PLAYER at a position that the eagles needed.
He was one of the only people in the world that could catch that POS McNabb's throws.
The problem is that he was the first one to call McNabb out as the worthless sack of monkey **** that he is.
Now that he's gone, all the sports stations are starting to realize he was right.
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Hopefully TO will keep his big mouth shut in Dallas and play. They have a REAL shot this year to go deep in the playoffs I think.
TO is a great reciever. No doubt. He can also make Terry Glen even better as well as Jason Whitten (TE). They drafted another TE from N.D. and from the talk on local radio and listening to Jerry Jones (one of the dumbest owners in Football)they are making a change to a 2 TE offense this year. Apparently Parcells his going to make his last year at Dallas interesting.
They also got Bobby carpenter from Ohio State. I hope he gets a chance to say hello to Matt Leinart this year up close and personal.
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I was hoping for defense, we draft Laurence Maroney. Anyone seen this kid play? I never heard of him. I have heard of Chad Jackson, but again, I was hoping for defense. Then we draft a TE(David Thomas), like we need another TE, geez.
I was hoping for reinforcements on the defense, not too thrilled with the first day, hoping tomorrow will be better.
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Youll be happy with Thomas. Very good TE.
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Originally posted by RedTop
Youll be happy with Thomas. Very good TE.
Yeah, the Pats staff knows what they are doing, I asked the same question about Ben Watson when they drafted him at the end of the first round ahead of the top rated TE at the time(Troupe).
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laurence Mooney runs about as fast as a street. I think he runs just a tad faster than bush.
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philly should have loaded up on big safetys, just they can pwn TO,
they have no shot at the NFC East division crown, so why not?
they should have drafed any & all S/R8 they could find.
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Originally posted by B17Skull12
laurence Mooney runs about as fast as a street. I think he runs just a tad faster than bush.
Yeah, I read one NFC assistant coach had him as the best back in the draft behind Bush, time will tell. We just grabbed another TE in the fourth, I guess the defense is gonna have to wait
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The thing with Tight Ends is that for the most part they are athletic players and can adapt to positions pretty easily. Don't be surprised is they try to move one of them over to the DL or even a DE slot. Also the Texans have addressed the OL (FINALLY) with two back to back picks in the 3rd round. Those two guys should do pretty well.
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i meant to say street bike but yes he is good.
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how did the broncos end up with the 15th pick to trade up to the rams and take that qb?
man what a joke to go in the first round to such a fantastic team. He must be laughing his head off at the other two qbs that got picked ahead of him. lol
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Was surprised Rams gave up their pick but they did get the Broncos 3rd round pick and got a decent CB with the 15th.
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Jay Cutler was the best quarterback in the SEC for the last two seasons. Its a shame he had a mediocre supporting cast around him at Vanderbilt but he did the best he could in that situation. I am surprised that he went there but apparently he fit what the Bronco's were looking for.
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Originally posted by Reschke
The thing with Tight Ends is that for the most part they are athletic players and can adapt to positions pretty easily. Don't be surprised is they try to move one of them over to the DL or even a DE slot. Also the Texans have addressed the OL (FINALLY) with two back to back picks in the 3rd round. Those two guys should do pretty well.
With the Pats, they like to run two TE sets, and Graham is up for free agency next year. Teams are going to make a run at him and the Pats won't pay top dollar for a TE. The drafting of two TE's pretty much spells that out.
How about the Jets, they score the top tackle and center in the draft, not bad. I knew they wouldn't pass on Ferguson, I think the Texans dropped the ball on that one, especially if those 3rd round picks don't pan out.
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Usually it is the late round OL picks that last the longest of any draft picks. My case for that rests in this right here:
Chris Gray currently plays for the Seahawks and has been in the league for 14 seasons now. He was drafted in the 5th round in 1993 by the Dolphins as the 20th pick of the 5th round (132nd overall) from Auburn University. He is a good friend of mine.
Mike Webster, a 6-1, 255-pound All-Big Ten center at Wisconsin, was the Pittsburgh Steelers’ fifth-round selection and the 125th player taken in the 1974 NFL Draft. Inducted into the Hall of Fame in 1997.
Taken from the NFL Hall of Fame website:
Jackie Slater, a veteran of twenty National Football League seasons, was like the Energizer Battery bunny that “just kept going and going and going.” Drafted by the Los Angeles Rams in the third round of the 1976 NFL Draft, Slater is tied for third all time for the most seasons played in the history of the league. His 259 regular-season games played were the most ever by an offensive lineman when he retired, and his 20 seasons with one team is an NFL record.
That is just three to think of right off the top of my head. Given more time and less beer I could name a few more.
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Without a doubt I think Titans had the best overrall draft picks and Im not saying because they have Vince Young who I think is the worst QB compared to Leinhart or Cutler.
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Originally posted by Reschke
Usually it is the late round OL picks that last the longest of any draft picks. My case for that rests in this right here:
Chris Gray currently plays for the Seahawks and has been in the league for 14 seasons now. He was drafted in the 5th round in 1993 by the Dolphins as the 20th pick of the 5th round (132nd overall) from Auburn University. He is a good friend of mine.
Mike Webster, a 6-1, 255-pound All-Big Ten center at Wisconsin, was the Pittsburgh Steelers’ fifth-round selection and the 125th player taken in the 1974 NFL Draft. Inducted into the Hall of Fame in 1997.
There are always exceptions at any position, i.e., Terrell Davis, Tom Brady, 6th round picks.
Sure, you can find offensive lineman late in the draft, I think Tom Ashworth(formally of the Pats, just signed with Seattle) wasn't even drafted. But he is the product of a personnel staff who can identify someone who can be coached and a coaching staff that can get it done. The Pats are blessed with both and are able to produce a solid offensive line out of mid to late round picks. Remember when the Pats played Carolina in the SB? Remember Warren Sapp saying the Pat's offensive line was going to get run over by the Carolina defensive line? Brady wasn't sacked all game, he had a record 32 completions. I have a quote in my sig related to it.
Now, that being said, you don't pass on an Orlando Pace, Tony Boselli or Jonathan Ogden. Especially when your personnel dept or coaching staff has yet to show they can identify or coach good mid to late round talent, and your QB is best known for being sacked and taking a beating all season.
I have been reading some articles laughing at the Texans for not taking Reggie Bush, these are probably the same people who scorned the Pats for not drafting David Terrell when they drafted Richard Seymour.
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Originally posted by Stang
Woot, another Bengals fan! I'm not alone after all.
:D
Edit: btw, I ran into Carson Palmer on the driving range yesterday, he was swinging pain free and without a knee brace on. Think he's doing better than anyone expected.
Yep...I'm one of the long suffering.I took the plunge and became a season ticket holder two years ago,and I'm glad I did.The good seats are all gone now.
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You are right Sixpence. You can not pass up those types of players and if I would have been sitting in the GM chair at Houston I would have drafted 7 OL prospects and gone free agent hunting for defensive help. With a QB like Carr and the Dominic Davis at RB and some of the young WR's they have all they need is OL help. BUT what do I know since I am not the suit in the front office.
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Originally posted by Reschke
You are right Sixpence. You can not pass up those types of players and if I would have been sitting in the GM chair at Houston I would have drafted 7 OL prospects and gone free agent hunting for defensive help. With a QB like Carr and the Dominic Davis at RB and some of the young WR's they have all they need is OL help. BUT what do I know since I am not the suit in the front office.
I think I am bias cause Johnson and Carr didn't produce in my fantasy league. I think I drafted Johnson kind of early too