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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: Revor on April 29, 2006, 05:09:04 PM
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That literally pisses me off. There's nothing like you fighting someone in a good fight and then some jerk comes along and cherry picks you then have the nerve to give you a salute like he dueled you on his own. I'm like what the hell did you do to earn a right of a salute? I could see if it was just you and me and you killed me fair and square then ok yes then the salute is understandable but when you are flying over 15k and see your fellow country men in a duel with another guy and you swoop down like an eagle and kill the poor sap and then give the
not only you are making yourself look shame to the person you killed but also at the same time your countrymen is like you didnt do this on your own although he might thank you for saving him. Anyways just had to rant.
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Just don't return the S, then they feel foolish for saluting and not getting a salute back.
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Heck, what's wrong with cherry picking? I have no problem acknowledging a good cherry pick. Geez, the only way you can get cherry picked...is if you fly like a cherry. :)
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some of us who dont fly spit 16s or La7s, and fly early p47s or p40s or crappy early 109s, have to cherry pick to MANAGE at least a kill per sortie.... I dont fly the uber planes for a reason-and that reason is to swoop in, in a pile of junk and shoot down a late model, sleek, flying machine
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maybe there should be another dot command:
Bozon: MrCherry
MrCherry: Bozon
:t
Bozon
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I got muted for typing jokingly on our squad's vox channel.
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Originally posted by Revor
That literally pisses me off. There's nothing like you fighting someone in a good fight and then some jerk comes along and cherry picks you then have the nerve to give you a salute like he dueled you on his own. I'm like what the hell did you do to earn a right of a salute? I could see if it was just you and me and you killed me fair and square then ok yes then the salute is understandable but when you are flying over 15k and see your fellow country men in a duel with another guy and you swoop down like an eagle and kill the poor sap and then give the not only you are making yourself look shame to the person you killed but also at the same time your countrymen is like you didnt do this on your own although he might thank you for saving him. Anyways just had to rant.
I usually just back and grumble on squad ch. about it if I'm particularly ticked. Not worth getting upset over/causing a scene... Just makes you look worse than the cherry picker IMO. I'd rather forgetaboutit and just get back in the air...
(Though I will conceed, that is damn hard to do sometimes)
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Revor give us the name of the said picker. My guess is it was one of the l337 picking timid score types who wanted recognition of his mad skillz.
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I did not Stang.:rolleyes:
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Originally posted by NoBaddy
Heck, what's wrong with cherry picking? I have no problem acknowledging a good cherry pick. Geez, the only way you can get cherry picked...is if you fly like a cherry. :)
NB your so old you cant remember being a cherry:)
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Originally posted by Stang
Revor give us the name of the said picker. My guess is it was one of the l337 picking timid score types who wanted recognition of his mad skillz.
I imagine that is probably correct.
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Revor I think you are talking about a fellow squad member of mine. All he was doing by my understanding wis he saw a plane on your tail, came down and took him down for you. I dont think he was trying to cherry pick or steal your kill. I think it was more of a helping hand or helping a fellow country man than cherry picking. I dont see anything wrong with that.
Revor
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Originally posted by Silat
NB your so old you cant remember being a cherry:)
Perhaps...but, I know what cherry pie is. :D
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Originally posted by Jebus
Revor I think you are talking about a fellow squad member of mine. All he was doing by my understanding wis he saw a plane on your tail, came down and took him down for you. I dont think he was trying to cherry pick or steal your kill. I think it was more of a helping hand or helping a fellow country man than cherry picking. I dont see anything wrong with that.
Revor
oh no you got it completely wrong man. I was talking about hawco the other day when I was low in a 190A5 and there were about 3 people on me and I manage to get away from the p51 and it took awhile for hawco to kill me and he was in a spit8 and he's going to give me a salute. I didnt say nothing. I usually dont say anything when they do that.
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One thing I wish they would add when they say "So-and-so shot you down" is shot you down with what, e.g. "So-and-so shot you down in a Spit XVI". Reason is, with the damage code the way it is, the guy who picked you may not have been the one to actually get the kill. The guy you were turning with who managed to ping you a few times during your extended fight may have been the one to score the kill. He salutes you for having performed so well in your turn fight, but you ignore him because you are sure it was the cherry picker who got the kill.
Even better would be "So-and-so shot you down in a Spit XVI with help from Him-or-her in an LA-7". Then you know for sure who to :aok and who to :p .
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Yea, that'd work great.
****ing kill messages would scroll the damn text buffer. "So and So got a kill. XXX1 got assist. XXX2 got assist. XXX3 got assist..... XXXn got assist.
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Originally posted by NoBaddy
Geez, the only way you can get cherry picked...is if you fly like a cherry. :)
The MA is one big bowl of cherries :)
Gunzo
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Originally posted by Urchin
Yea, that'd work great.
****ing kill messages would scroll the damn text buffer. "So and So got a kill. XXX1 got assist. XXX2 got assist. XXX3 got assist..... XXXn got assist.
My wings fall off so easily, I hadn't even considered the possibility . . . .
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Yea E25280 but the server would have to say "John shot down in a SPit5, by Mark in a Spit16, but that wasnt the good fight, that was Bill in an F6F"
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Originally posted by NoBaddy
Heck, what's wrong with cherry picking? I have no problem acknowledging a good cherry pick. Geez, the only way you can get cherry picked...is if you fly like a cherry. :)
If you have no problem acknowledging a "good" cherry pick, then I'd say odds are good you very rarely get picked.
The next logical assumption would be that this is because you rarely fight, and mostly cherrypick yourself.
The only way you get cherrypicked.... is if you grow a pair of balls and fight for a change.
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revor
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some of us who dont fly spit 16s or La7s, and fly early p47s or p40s or crappy early 109s, have to cherry pick to MANAGE at least a kill per sortie.... I dont fly the uber planes for a reason-and that reason is to swoop in, in a pile of junk and shoot down a late model, sleek, flying machine
Nice excuse doesn't work. I've seen plenty of guys fighting and winning in these planes and not cherry picking. Lose you perch and your crutch and maybe you'll do better to.
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Urchin...
I fight. If I didn't...I would never "die". :)
For me, cherry picking is like vulching. It requires that the person on the receiving end do something stupid. If someone catches me flying like a cherry...I am not going to object to him making cherry pie out of me...I would deserve it. :)
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Originally posted by Revor
oh no you got it completely wrong man. I was talking about hawco the other day when I was low in a 190A5 and there were about 3 people on me and I manage to get away from the p51 and it took awhile for hawco to kill me and he was in a spit8 and he's going to give me a salute. I didnt say nothing. I usually dont say anything when they do that.
Sorry Revor for the miss understanding. I applogize. I know my squadie and i were talking about how he cleared your 6 one night while i was on with him, and i thought that was the occasion you were talking about. Once again sorry about the miss understanding
Revor
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Depends on your definition of fighting I suppose. If you and 6 buddies making bore n zoom passes at a lone enemy is "fighting" then I guess you fight.
But that 1 guy had 3 options. He could
A. Do like you are doing, and fly with a pack of friendlies hoping for the opportunity to beat them to 1 kill a sortie.
B. Fly alone, or with a significantly smaller group of friendlies against a horde of enemies.
Or C. Not fly at all.
Sure, B is a "stupid" choice. But A is mindnumbingly boring. I guess the fact that you can put up with it makes you a better, "smarter" man than I, but it has never been a palatable option for me.
So I roll against the horde, hoping I get maybe trick one or two lemmings into chasing me, and praying I can kill em fast enough that the rest of the pack can't realize what is going on.
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Originally posted by Gunzo
The MA is one big bowl of cherries :)
Gunzo
Chocolate covered cherries! MMMMM yummy! :p
Zazen
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Originally posted by NoBaddy
For me, cherry picking requires that the person on the receiving end do something stupid. If someone catches me flying like a cherry...I am not going to object to him making cherry pie out of me...I would deserve it. :)
That's a fact. New pilots in WW2 were notoriously cherry picked, they lacked the knowledge and experience to realize they were under attack either when engaged or just simply while flying formation. It is very, very hard to purely cherry pick a truly good stick in AH unless his SA is completely overwhelmed or you, the picker, make an especially excellent shot...
Keep in mind, if the picker isn't descriminating at all in his attacks, just by chance half his picks will actually be saving a teammate. If he's a wise and discriminating picker far, far more than half, something approaching the vast majority of his picks will be saving his teammates. A good picker is nice to have around because he will only choose to pick if his friendly is losing, and refrain if he's winning...He's kind of like a wingman for the whole furball, an angel on your shoulder so to speak...
Zazen
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It isn't really that hard to cherrypick a "good" stick.
It depends on how many other planes are on him. If there is just 1 plane, yea, it is going to take some doing. If there is 2 or 3, especially if he is actively fighting them, it is quite easy to cherrypick.
You just wait till the other guys box him in and get him slow, then you swoop in and "save" them.
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Urchin...
I fly like I flew tonite. Started hunting buffs at 22. Only found 1..so hadda be satisfied with killin' fighters (btw, went there alone). Made 2 cherry pies on the way home.
Went back to 22. You were there. No cherries. But, I did find a couple of guys that were clueless. :)
Heck, my own damned squaddies get pisted at me because show so little interest in "teamwork". :D
Oh...BTW, if I find a fight like you mention about (7 v 1)....I go find another fight. Stuff like that bores me to tears. :)
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Originally posted by Revor
That literally pisses me off. There's nothing like you fighting someone in a good fight and then some jerk comes along and cherry picks you then have the nerve to give you a salute like he dueled you on his own. I'm like what the hell did you do to earn a right of a salute?
When you're done fuming, consider this possibility..
You're turning and burning with my squadmate, I'm in a fight, but I get a kill there and my squaddie is calling for me to clear his six... I know you've been giving him a good hard fight, so after I clear you, I give you a salute.
Happens all the time... You don't know who that cherrypicker is. Often, he was called in by the other guy. I think you've forgotten that people have squad vox, and that squads are... you know... teams... Pick a fight with a member of a team and you risk getting the whole team on ya.
If you want clean one on one fighting, go to D.A.
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Originally posted by Zazen13
A good picker is nice to have around because he will only choose to pick if his friendly is losing, and refrain if he's winning...He's kind of like a wingman for the whole furball, an angel on your shoulder so to speak...
Hell yes. Before I come down on someone like that it goes like this...
I see FriendlyPilot getting run all over the sky by red SpitXVI
I say "Hey, friendlyPilot, you got that under control or do you need a little help?'
And if they say "I got it, thanks" then I fly away and the friendly dies because he was too proud to ask for help...
OR
"Yeah, this guy is eating me for lunch PLEASE HELP!".. Then I'll swoop in and plaster the bogey if I can, or at least force a break for my Green Buddy.
There's nothing wrong with it, its called team work. And if I toss you an and you get your goggles fogged up about it, well... I guess you can just pack sausage, because it was all above board no matter what you think about it.
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Originally posted by Kurt
When you're done fuming, consider this possibility..
You're turning and burning with my squadmate, I'm in a fight, but I get a kill there and my squaddie is calling for me to clear his six... I know you've been giving him a good hard fight, so after I clear you, I give you a salute.
Happens all the time... You don't know who that cherrypicker is. Often, he was called in by the other guy. I think you've forgotten that people have squad vox, and that squads are... you know... teams... Pick a fight with a member of a team and you risk getting the whole team on ya.
If you want clean one on one fighting, go to D.A.
And when you are done gloating, consider this possibility.
He's there turning and burning, and you come down and cherrypick, then toss a like you did something special.
For me, and I imagine for him, typing .s XXX means they did something good, and they earned my respect. Typing it after a perfunctory cherrypick, with no fight or skill involved, is a perversion of the . In my opinion of course.
It'd be like killing someone in the 5 inch gun and saluting afterwards.
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Originally posted by Urchin
And when you are done gloating, consider this possibility. .
Gloating? I'm gloating?
Go buy a dictionary, putz.
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Originally posted by NoBaddy
Urchin...
I fly like I flew tonite. Started hunting buffs at 22. Only found 1..so hadda be satisfied with killin' fighters (btw, went there alone). Made 2 cherry pies on the way home.
Went back to 22. You were there. No cherries. But, I did find a couple of guys that were clueless. :)
Heck, my own damned squaddies get pisted at me because show so little interest in "teamwork". :D
Oh...BTW, if I find a fight like you mention about (7 v 1)....I go find another fight. Stuff like that bores me to tears. :)
Very well, I apoligise for the shabby way I spoke to you. I misguidedly took you for a cherrypicker who was not only content to do it, but proud to.
I'm sorry for that, and .
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Originally posted by Kurt
Gloating? I'm gloating?
Go buy a dictionary, putz.
Want me to pick you up some skill while I'm out?
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would you stop into the steady-twisty-rudder-hand shop and pick me up a few cases, and a few bottles of skill may be required as a boost, im logging in to MA first time in a week or so and im wasted and it 6.20am sunday morning.sky looks good, its going to be a bright day..... need to block out the light from this room....hmmm, whats that smell. i need a bottle opener and a lighter or both and some air fresh spray stuff.
thanks, put it on my tab.
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Originally posted by Raptor01
I got muted for typing jokingly on our squad's vox channel.
That is absolute B.S. and a good reminder of one of the many reasons why I left. Makes me contemplate attempting a comeback
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Originally posted by Urchin
Very well, I apoligise for the shabby way I spoke to you. I misguidedly took you for a cherrypicker who was not only content to do it, but proud to.
I'm sorry for that, and .
No problem. It's all good. :)
I'm just a guy that's been around long enough to not care about skill, cherries, vulchs, winning the war...etc.. I'm here for MY entertainment. About the only thing consistant...is that I'm an alt monkey. A fellow named Killer (creator of WW2OL) taught me years ago that the best 'nanas are at the top of the tree. Everyone knows monkeys love 'nanas. :D
Oh..BTW, if you are gonna pick up some "skill"...get me a 6-pack. I could really use some. :)
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Originally posted by Atoon
That is absolute B.S. and a good reminder of one of the many reasons why I left. Makes me contemplate attempting a comeback
they police squad channels now? I once gave a 5 minute speech/manifesto on squad, subject being someone that pissed me off with his timid cherrypick skills, as to make Geoge Carlin flush beet red with shame.
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Originally posted by Urchin
It isn't really that hard to cherrypick a "good" stick.
It depends on how many other planes are on him. If there is just 1 plane, yea, it is going to take some doing. If there is 2 or 3, especially if he is actively fighting them, it is quite easy to cherrypick.
You just wait till the other guys box him in and get him slow, then you swoop in and "save" them.
As I said, "Unless his SA is overwhelmed", in which case it really isn't a cherrypick it's just an old fashioned gang-banging...
The archetypical example of the cherry pick would be two cons engaged, your friendly is losing and about to be destroyed, you dive in and save him by destroying his opponent. This is what really pisses off the cherry because not only was he killed but he was also denied a sure kill on your teammate...While this fashion of descriminating cherrypicking is not particularly sporting it sure can frustrate the enemy and if repeated it can change the course of the ebb and flow of a furball...Oh, and it is also very realistic...
Very few of us fly around in the MA with assigned wingmen or flights like they had in WW2, ad hoc mutual fighter support in the MA is a reasonable fascimile of this and serves the same purpose of mutual support. Cherrypicking is just one facet of this mutual support. While 1 vs 1 individual combat, somehow by miracle or intention hermetically sealed off from the rest of the furball, sounds romantic it's the rare exception not the rule both in real life and in the AH MA.
Zazen
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And that is well and good, but there is no need to insult with the .s.
There are two kinds of people who would do that. One is an ignorant person. The kind that doesn't know that a salute is a mark of respect. The other is an ******, who is trying to rub in his "hard earned victory".
The second kind also salutes after scoring "victories" in 5 inch guns and flakpansies, or so I'm told.
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Originally posted by Kurt
When you're done fuming, consider this possibility..
You're turning and burning with my squadmate, I'm in a fight, but I get a kill there and my squaddie is calling for me to clear his six... I know you've been giving him a good hard fight, so after I clear you, I give you a salute.
Happens all the time... You don't know who that cherrypicker is. Often, he was called in by the other guy. I think you've forgotten that people have squad vox, and that squads are... you know... teams... Pick a fight with a member of a team and you risk getting the whole team on ya.
If you want clean one on one fighting, go to D.A.
lol why is it that everytime I post a topic people talk about something different than the topic? Cherrypicking is fine, all I said was what I dont like is when people give you a like they achieved it on their own
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Originally posted by Urchin
And when you are done gloating, consider this possibility.
He's there turning and burning, and you come down and cherrypick, then toss a like you did something special.
For me, and I imagine for him, typing .s XXX means they did something good, and they earned my respect. Typing it after a perfunctory cherrypick, with no fight or skill involved, is a perversion of the . In my opinion of course.
It'd be like killing someone in the 5 inch gun and saluting afterwards.
Thank you Urchin for understanding where I am coming from.
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So, your problem is that you don't deserve the
and that is why you are upset?
If that is the problem, go on channel 200 and declare that you did nothing special and you do not desrve that salute. Everyone should know that you were cherry picked like a common noob and did not put up a fight to desrve it.
If your problem was the cherry picking I'd understand it (though there's nothing wrong with it except for not being gentleman like). If your problem is the other guy gloating - suck it up and don't salute back.
Personally, I don't even listen to 200. Saves me both the whines and the replies.
Bozon
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Revor, all that aside, I think the point was also brought up earlier in the thread that the guy who scores the kill is not always the cherrypicker.
Its very possible that the came from the guy who DID earn it.
Why let it get to you? Since you can't know who was who back there, why assume its the last one who hit ya?
I think this situation can develop in a lot of ways that aren't just some no-skill dweeb blowing the tail off your plane.
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does flying a very fast plane make you a cherry picker or is it just that the cherry pickers all naturaly pick the really fast planes?
Cherry pickers love the new more timid MA with it's horde mentality and circle jerk around a capped field gameplay.
Cherry pickers love the maps with the fields farthest apart.
lazs
Public Relations Officer for the BK's
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I'm gettin a hankerin for Cherry Ice Cream :D
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Ah this crap happens to me all the time, from my countrymen and from the enemy.
I was in a great dogfight with a P-47N, we had each other smoking, it was a great joust. Suddenly some Barbie Pink Spit16 with "I love Ken" on the wings pops me in the midst of my joust with the 47N. He PM's me an apology saying he too enjoyed the fight til it was interupted.
And with my own guys, I'll be engaging with a con and they decide to join in, even tho I call out Im OK and dont need the help. Grrr.
What can ya do...some pilots are putzes. They think they are saving you when in actuality, you're just fine as you are.
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The way i look at it alls fair in love and war, you got my prettythang for not looking i would have killed you the same. Be ruthless kill however you have to FU%$#@ kill. Fly it as real aircombat would be flown i don't think their is a fighter pilot that gives a flying F&%$k how just as long as he killed you, your dead.
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Originally posted by LePaul
Ah this crap happens to me all the time, from my countrymen and from the enemy.
I was in a great dogfight with a P-47N, we had each other smoking, it was a great joust. Suddenly some Barbie Pink Spit16 with "I love Ken" on the wings pops me in the midst of my joust with the 47N. He PM's me an apology saying he too enjoyed the fight til it was interupted.
And with my own guys, I'll be engaging with a con and they decide to join in, even tho I call out Im OK and dont need the help. Grrr.
What can ya do...some pilots are putzes. They think they are saving you when in actuality, you're just fine as you are.
Nah, my best story so far is this.
I hooked up with Wotan and we decided to fly a few sorties in LW stuff. So We both upped 190a8s. We are flying around and we run into this Spit 16 about co alt with us. Well, there are 2 of us and 1 of him, so we figure wth, and engage. We were playing it pretty careful, but after a minute or so we had him boxed in. Another 30 seconds or so and he would have been killed by one of us, cause he was slow and on the deck.
Right about then I notice a friendly who (predictably) was flying around an La-7 HOing everything in sight headed our way. He notices our Spit slow and on the deck, and immediately turns to make a pass. Of course, the Spit has nothing to lose, so he turns into the friendly el gay.
So the El gay comes boring in on the Spit, so I get on range and yell "Take the shot XXXXX, don't let him get away!". Then the el gay rams the spit, and dies. I am pretty sure the spit died to though.
But I thought it was hilarious :).
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Originally posted by Urchin
The kind that doesn't know that a salute is a mark of respect.
D'oh and here I only use it to say hi to NB and whels since I dont tune 200
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Well, unless *your* salute means "Hey, *******!" it is still a sign of respect, no?
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Too bad there's not a .f message macro, huh?
Some of you guys get a little too worked up over this game. Go get some fresh air.
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Ok, just last night a LA7 and his buddies were killing us pretty good. So, I even the odds and parked the P51 and upped a SpitXVI, (didn't have time to gain ALT and speed). Here he come for more kills,(his friends had left so he was alone) we fought, it was a good fight and I managed to win. No, he didn't salute me nor I him. What he did do was get a new LA7 and come back only this time there was two of us waiting. He followed the 109 up and I followed the LA up, filled him full of 20mm. Once again no salute... (was that a cherry pick or just a nice set up??) Ok fine. LA returns, this time there is three of us and he dies quickly. A squad buddy made short work of him, it was some good flying on my friends part cause he got the kill before anyone could get over to help. Once again no Salute.... The LA driver was a good stick too, everyone reconized his name.
So what's my point. Well, lets just say that I have NEVER been saluted for a good fight or a good cherry pick etc etc. So if your getting Saluted and it get's your panties in a bunch I suggest you switch to decaf. Chill dude, and accept the complement.
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cmon bigsky lets have a name. I hope it was one of those BK phags lol.
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i got picked yesturday by yucca.....i typed him and said nice pick......he said ty.......
i think someones just pissed cause they got picked.....ehhh......cant blame anyone but urself for that......hell i luv picking unsuspecting planes off.......
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How dare anywun suhloot me aftar thay charry pickled me! Thet jus make me madder'n a two dollah streetwawlkah that got stiffed her two dollahs! Ovah and ovah!
You jus wait you suhlootin' so an so! :D
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The archetypical example of the cherry pick would be two cons engaged, your friendly is losing and about to be destroyed, you dive in and save him by destroying his opponent.
and this is how Zazen gets 99% of his kills, and thats why he advocates this style of gameplay. :rolleyes:
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Originally posted by Raptor01
I got muted for typing jokingly on our squad's vox channel.
Errrrr.... Rap..... if you got muted for that means... err..... that... errr...... You had been warned about language shortly before ;).
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I always salute a good fight, and if a guy picks me and salutes, I assume he thought I was doing a good job against his buds up to that point. So I salute back. Its when you salute a good fight and you dont get a reply thats kinda cheezy. But then I tell myself they must not be tuned to 200. Then I see them type later on 200, and smile.
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Originally posted by Hammy
and this is how Zazen gets 99% of his kills, and thats why he advocates this style of gameplay. :rolleyes:
Nah, only 75%, the other 25% are just pure bounces...:rofl
Zazen
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Originally posted by FiLtH
I always salute a good fight, and if a guy picks me and salutes, I assume he thought I was doing a good job against his buds up to that point. So I salute back. Its when you salute a good fight and you dont get a reply thats kinda cheezy. But then I tell myself they must not be tuned to 200. Then I see them type later on 200, and smile.
Agreed.
- oldman
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Nah, only 75%, the other 25% are just pure bounces...
wondering how u bounce someone in a field gun or flack?
i must be doing summat wrong, i cant even get the damn things off the ground :rofl
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Do you people need your D!Ck sucked that bad?!
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Originally posted by FiLtH
I always salute a good fight, and if a guy picks me and salutes, I assume he thought I was doing a good job against his buds up to that point. So I salute back. Its when you salute a good fight and you dont get a reply thats kinda cheezy. But then I tell myself they must not be tuned to 200. Then I see them type later on 200, and smile.
Me too. And I get shot down a lot, some of the people salute me and some don't. After a good fight I always say on 200, too bad I'm easy to shoot down so I don't get those a lot... :)
Oh, and .squelch ledpig... Uncalled for.
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Originally posted by FiLtH
I always salute a good fight, and if a guy picks me and salutes, I assume he thought I was doing a good job against his buds up to that point. So I salute back. Its when you salute a good fight and you dont get a reply thats kinda cheezy. But then I tell myself they must not be tuned to 200. Then I see them type later on 200, and smile.
Ditto that.
And ditto to what panzzer said.
Geez ledpig...must be tuff to be that stupid.
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Originally posted by LEDPIG
Baleeted!
Dude, that was awfully inappropriate.
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Originally posted by LEDPIG
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Isn't advertising one's services a TOS violation? :D
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Originally posted by Hammy
i must be doing summat wrong, i cant even get the damn things off the ground :rofl
:lol Come to the TA :). The trainers there are great, im sure they can help you :D....
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Originally posted by NoBaddy
Heck, what's wrong with cherry picking? I have no problem acknowledging a good cherry pick. Geez, the only way you can get cherry picked...is if you fly like a cherry. :)
LOL this is today's best :rofl
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Originally posted by LEDPIG
Do you people need your **** sucked that bad?!
you all should have assumed this type of response was forthcoming after reading his typing skills from the reply before this one:
The way i look at it alls fair in love and war, you got my prettythang for not looking i would have killed you the same. Be ruthless kill however you have to FU%$#@ kill. Fly it as real aircombat would be flown i don't think their is a fighter pilot that gives a flying F&%$k how just as long as he killed you, your dead.
think someone's parents need to put a keylogger on his computer :D
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Originally posted by bigsky406
Ok, just last night a LA7 and his buddies were killing us pretty good. So, I even the odds and parked the P51 and upped a SpitXVI, (didn't have time to gain ALT and speed). Here he come for more kills,(his friends had left so he was alone) we fought, it was a good fight and I managed to win. No, he didn't salute me nor I him. What he did do was get a new LA7 and come back only this time there was two of us waiting. He followed the 109 up and I followed the LA up, filled him full of 20mm. Once again no salute... (was that a cherry pick or just a nice set up??) Ok fine. LA returns, this time there is three of us and he dies quickly. A squad buddy made short work of him, it was some good flying on my friends part cause he got the kill before anyone could get over to help. Once again no Salute.... The LA driver was a good stick too, everyone reconized his name.
So what's my point. Well, lets just say that I have NEVER been saluted for a good fight or a good cherry pick etc etc. So if your getting Saluted and it get's your panties in a bunch I suggest you switch to decaf. Chill dude, and accept the complement.
Oh my damn goodness. Man go to school and take a reading comprehension course or something. I'm not going to explain it anymore this is getting ridiculous.
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Originally posted by Revor
Oh my damn goodness. Man go to school and take a reading comprehension course or something. I'm not going to explain it anymore this is getting ridiculous.
I'll say it again.....Dude, you gotta switch to decaf.
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I use
if I want to........when I want to...
If the actions of my enemy have earned my respect I will sometimes I have the odds stacked on my side some times not............ its his actions I consider........not my own.
If you finish off someone who is low and slow and has fought well why not salute him................ he did well but fell to the inevitable.
If we use as some sort of mutual back slapping ritual (always expecting one back) then it loses its meaning IMO ..............
and when there is little else to do and no good fights to be found then cherry picking can be fun for a little while
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"when you are flying over 15k and see your fellow country men in a duel with another guy and you swoop down like an eagle and kill the poor sap and then give the
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How do you know which one got the kill. Maybe your original opponent got a few pings on you and the swooping bugger took you wing off but the kill goes to first pinger and he salutes for the good fight you had before your duel was ruined?
Happened to me a lot of times that I got a kill for a few pings OR only assists even if I took a wing off of e/a.
The damage/kill system works rather strangely sometimes...
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I am a LALADWEEB cherry picker.
:cool:
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Ledpig,
I talked to u in the training arena, you seemed like a pretty good guy. Please ditch the foul mouth this game is made up of a wide variety of players and you'll find playing much more enjoyable when people are willing to work with you. They won't tolerate an ignorant tongue.
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I try to make a point to .s someone if it was a hard clean fight but Sometimes your just to busy. If they .s me I will always return it unless it's bull.
When someone comes across range and says please come help with this guy. u want me to what? u want me to say "Nope looks like he killin you fair and square" Yeah right I hate it for you, someone asks for help I'm in there buddy. ( yeah its kinda gamey and I sure wouldn't send or answer a salute over it, but what do u do ? ur not going to turn your back on a friendly?RU?)
On the other hand I try not to jump in a one on one at any other time( it does happen but i TRY not too)
If I see 2 cons on one friendly I usually try forcing one of them to wave off the attack. (Sometimes they go ahead kill him and then come kill me)
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Originally posted by nark
some of us who dont fly spit 16s or La7s, and fly early p47s or p40s or crappy early 109s, have to cherry pick to MANAGE at least a kill per sortie.... I dont fly the uber planes for a reason-and that reason is to swoop in, in a pile of junk and shoot down a late model, sleek, flying machine
or, you could learn to dogfight in your aircraft:aok
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Originally posted by SkyRock
or, you could learn to dogfight in your aircraft:aok
Dog fighting is over-rated, LOL.
JMFJ
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Learn to dog fight and you won't have to rely on others to save you from that one con you run into now and then on your way to kill those FH's.
:aok
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Learn to dog fight and you won't have to rely on others to save you from that one con you run into now and then on your way to kill those FH's.
I think round about now, 75% of rooks will be thinking..............."what does he mean?" :rofl
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Originally posted by Booz
D'oh and here I only use it to say hi to NB and whels since I dont tune 200
Boozer...
Sometimes I wish I could say the same. However, I still find it entertaining...in a sick sort of way. :D
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Originally posted by NoBaddy
Boozer...
Sometimes I wish I could say the same. However, I still find it entertaining...in a sick sort of way. :D
Like a car wreck... you know you shouldnt, but you cant help looking.
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Originally posted by nark
some of us who dont fly spit 16s or La7s, and fly early p47s or p40s or crappy early 109s, have to cherry pick to MANAGE at least a kill per sortie.... I dont fly the uber planes for a reason-and that reason is to swoop in, in a pile of junk and shoot down a late model, sleek, flying machine
Speak for yourself.
I like the 109F as my main ride
I swoop in. outfly that sleek late model flying machine and disect it peice by peice untill it falls from the sky. OR give em a burst that they hear in the tower for about 5 minutes afterwards and leave em wondering how their uber plane just got spanked like an ugly stepchild by a crappy early 109. LOL.
the wonerdful thing about Flying the less uber planes (other then for perkfarming) is if you get beat by an uber ride. No big deal, the uber rides should be able to beat the crappy ones.
But if your in an uber late model plane and get beat by a non uber plane.
You get to suffer the embarrasment and indignity of knowing that you just got beotch slapped by a lessor plane. and a plane you should have been able to easily kill. considering the differences in uberness :D
But seriously. Everyone cherrypicks. Especially if your in a furball where its really more like one huge cherrypicking session anyway
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Originally posted by Revor
That literally pisses me off. There's nothing like you fighting someone in a good fight and then some jerk comes along and cherry picks you then have the nerve to give you a salute like he dueled you on his own. I'm like what the hell did you do to earn a right of a salute? I could see if it was just you and me and you killed me fair and square then ok yes then the salute is understandable but when you are flying over 15k and see your fellow country men in a duel with another guy and you swoop down like an eagle and kill the poor sap and then give the not only you are making yourself look shame to the person you killed but also at the same time your countrymen is like you didnt do this on your own although he might thank you for saving him. Anyways just had to rant.
Dead man rant :lol
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Keep in mind that the guys saluting you after a pick could very well be trying to get you wound up. Angry people do stupid things which make them even easier to kill. I can think of a few MA pilots who were extremely adept at this, and very few people ever realized they were being played, judging by the responses I normally saw.
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Salute the pilot who killed you not the one you killed unless he salutes you....
Tex