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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Six-pk on October 18, 2000, 09:19:00 AM
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Yep! $24.95 WB's and DOA (ien's WW1 sim)
That means ya can fly ww2 and ww1 for 24.95!
Six
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six-pk in WB's
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Pyro, heres one you can move. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
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Old news, search threads for this topic:
Ya get what ya pay for, 6 year old graphics!
Warbirds Graphics
(http://Ripsnort60.tripod.com/wbf4u.jpg)
Aces High Graphics
(http://Ripsnort60.tripod.com/luzon2.jpg)
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And AW is $10/mo. Why would I ever want to go "backwards" with either one?
-Westy
(p.s. And you're STILL being over charged there Six-Puk)
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Well, looks like these guys need to learn to add more polygons. Notice the cowlings are not round in either.
Now this is ARTWORK (notice nice round things) hehehe ya goofs:
http://www.iencentral.com/warbirds/wb3.html# (http://www.iencentral.com/warbirds/wb3.html#)
Notice, no square parts. WBIII gonna blow this old crappy art system all to hell. Then what ya gonna do? Westy? Ripsnot? What ya gonna brag about when your beloved sim is dated (as it already is) MAUHAHAHAHAHA
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No, they will trounce on WB's crappy FM, the MAIN reason I gave them the boot. Which is all you will have at first, is WB3 with old WB FM, terrible gunnery, and the worst connects in any online game. You can have it all to yerselves (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
ts
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Originally posted by Warbirder:
Well, looks like these guys need to learn to add more polygons. Notice the cowlings are not round in either.
Now this is ARTWORK (notice nice round things) hehehe ya goofs:
http://www.iencentral.com/warbirds/wb3.html# (http://www.iencentral.com/warbirds/wb3.html#)
Notice, no square parts. WBIII gonna blow this old crappy art system all to hell. Then what ya gonna do? Westy? Ripsnot? What ya gonna brag about when your beloved sim is dated (as it already is) MAUHAHAHAHAHA
First off, its not out! Second, AH will pick up new customers when 70% of current WB'ers will find out in order to run WB3 with a decent Frame Rate (15 or above) they will have to not only upgrade their CPU, but their Video card as well...also, from what I'm hearing, its a graphics update only, so where does that leave WB3? WB2 with pretty graphics where you can't get a decent FR.
Question: Is WB3 going to be flat rate?
I will try out WB3, most here will...and if WB3 is all its cracked up to be, I'll be in both sims (if its flatrate)
Why don't you use your AGW handle, what are you frightened about?
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Fellows, let's try to show the class we would want to see if we were there.
Example:
Six-pk, thanks for the information. It is old news by now, but thanks nonetheless.
See, no personal slam necessary! (of course, it should be in the OT forum) (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
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I don't believe I personally slammed anyone in my thread. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
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(http://www.iencentral.com/warbirds/new_images/wb3art/spit1.jpg)
Wook at the cute wittle propeller on the Spitfire. Its so such a cute wittle wiggams.
The proportions are all off, it looks VERY cartoonish. Looks like they'll be chopping frame rates for bad graphics.
Sisu
-Karnak
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I do dig wb's. Old art?
yep. but it's very cool.
Six
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six-pk in WB's
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Originally posted by Warbirder:
Well, looks like these guys need to learn to add more polygons. Notice the cowlings are not round in either.
Now this is ARTWORK (notice nice round things) hehehe ya goofs:
http://www.iencentral.com/warbirds/wb3.html# (http://www.iencentral.com/warbirds/wb3.html#)
Notice, no square parts. WBIII gonna blow this old crappy art system all to hell. Then what ya gonna do? Westy? Ripsnot? What ya gonna brag about when your beloved sim is dated (as it already is) MAUHAHAHAHAHA
hehe I don't know wether to laugh at this guy or feel sorry for him. MG that u? hehe what kind of frame rate you gonna get with those "round" cowlings? Don't you know there is no such thing as "round" in our hobby? every curved surface is made up of line segments, or straight polygons. But I guess with that advanced gunnery system there's still alot of CPU cycles to draw those "round" cowlings. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif)
http://www.iencentral.com/warbirds/new_images/wb3art/f4u1d_4.html (http://www.iencentral.com/warbirds/new_images/wb3art/f4u1d_4.html)
HMMMM looks like I see some straight lines in that cowling.
Now do yourself a favor son, go play your game and have a good time. I think I'll go practice dodging in and out of clouds, then I'm going to practice my fuel management and see how far I can go on 1 tank of gas, what do you guys think should I take a drop tank? . Hmmm I think I'll do this at Luzon, or wait maybe I should go to Tunis. Then I think I'll work on some new convergences. 1 bank of cannons at say 250 and the other at about 325, should I bring the cowl guns down to 200 yrds or out to 400? hmm should 1 bank of cannon be 30mm? Oh that reminds me of that b26 I killed the other day w/ 2 30mm shells, ok ok I only needed the 1 but it looked so cool seeing that v-stab falling off I had to put another into it. Unfortunately I got to close to him and my left wing hit his right wing, we both spiraled down missing 1 wing.
yeah WB rules dude! (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif)
Udie (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
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Originally posted by Six-pk:
I mean I could rase my head 6 inches, to the left or right 6 inches, and see the AC in my 6 veiw at the same time I'm straped in my seat lolololol!
Six
Yep, probably the best feature in AH, 3D cockpit, rumor is that WB3 may have the same feature since its very successful here.
Oh, do you think that pilots ever loosened the straps just alittle so they have about a 6" advantage of twisting around for a rear six view? Naaaa! (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
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"Why don't you use your AGW handle, what are you frightened about?"
Sounds like MG... smell like MG... post dumb like MG?
Who else do you think "Warbirder" is?
-Westy
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No Ripsnort.
Six
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six-pk in WB's
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-RAM Grabs another hand of popcorn, drinks some more beer and keeps on watching the show-
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LOL!
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six-pk in WB's
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Yep, pilots just sat there, turned their necks 90 degrees, never leaned forward and looked back...LOL!
Come to think of it, I think alot of folks bash this realistic 3D cockpit because they NEED the element of surprize, and could not shoot down anyone unless their victim never saw them!
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Of course Warbirder is MG. He signed it as such with his repetitive use over the years of ya for you and other little nuances I'm keeping secret. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
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Apache
=XO= VMF-323 Death Rattlers
VMF 323 Death Rattlers Web Site (http://home.earthlink.net/~bkapache)
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Thank Goodness for this post!! Only $24.95! Once WB III comes out, I'm outa Aces High and into Warbirds!! Are they going to have a two week trial peroid???
Can't wait!! WB III coming out in November?? Less than a month for a real combat flight simulation. Plus I hear the community is much nicer!!
Well it's been real all you mean Aces High people, but Im going to a better world!!
Who is MG? Maybe he'll let me be his wingman!!
(http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
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LOL!
(http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
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Karnak
Agreed. Give me our spits any day. They look way better.
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I hope wb3 dont have lose straps.
Six
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six-pk in WB's
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Wow it's nice to see wb graphics has finally caught up to aw .
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(http://smilecwm.tripod.com/ut1/redeemerpotato.gif)
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"hey will be adding stuff all the time in WB's fashion"
<sigh> So true. For instance;
This week we could have 60% lethality! Then next week it will be 80%. After too many complaints it will be dropped to 50%.
Shall we bring up the WWII arena. Or is that talked about enough over in AGW? (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
As for WB III. Maybe you'll be right...then again, maybe not. Why not make your comparison, after you've flown it in a production setting. When you can actually talk fact versus just breaking wind.
-Westy
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I would have been inpressed if iEN went flat rate at $9.99 but at $24 Im not excited by it.
Lets see what WBs3 does, and whether it will be flat rate (rumor suggests not), before supposing that something wonderful has happened.
PS that damned Chog really has me concerned..... (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
Yeager
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Originally posted by Six-pk:
I mean I could rase my head 6 inches, to the left or right 6 inches, and see the AC in my 6 veiw at the same time I'm straped in my seat lolololol!
This is actually pure genius on HTC's part. Remember the neverending "I can lean up against the window and see my tail in the hellcat" and similar whines? With one fell swoop, HTC completely eliminated those.
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Rickenbacker (Ricken)
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the Independent Swedish Air Force
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If it's so awesome, what are you doing here? And why are you advertising? I wouldn't fly it if they paid me $24.95 a month. Enjoy your 2D cockpit and laser tracers.
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LJK_Raubvogel
LuftJägerKorps (http://www.luftjagerkorps.com)
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Originally posted by Six-pk:
they will be adding stuff all the time in WB's fashion
But all the people who established and maintained that "WB's fashion" are working for HTC or Cornered Rat now... (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
Don't misunderstand me, I loved WB when it was in its prime, but it's starting to really lag behind, and the measures being taken to save it are all too little too late.
Oh, and if you see Toad, tell him to get his bellybutton over here. I'll gun for him anyday (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif).
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Rickenbacker (Ricken)
-ISAF-
the Independent Swedish Air Force
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"Hiya,RAM,ok if I sit here with ya?"<hands RAM a fine cigar>
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Originally posted by 1776:
"Hiya,RAM,ok if I sit here with ya?"<hands RAM a fine cigar>
<Rip slides in close..."Want to try one of my Fuentes?">
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Of course, both are welcome.
-RAM makes space for Rip and 1776...he doesnt smoke but, WTF, a good show is a good show!-
You want some popcorn? (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
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mmmm popcorn. can i have some to RAM? Good show, huh? (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
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Thx RAM but I'll take a 6-pack (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
I must admit I don't understand you AH people.
Six
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The part I find ironic is how this mirrors what happened when WB came out, only WB is the AW now :/ I realy though more people would come over from WB. So I guess I don't understand you WB "people" (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif) either.
Perception is a funny thing I guess. My perception is that AH beats WB hands down in all areas but planeset, and navy stuff. Well with the next release we'll get all kinds of neat stuff like manable guns on ships,landing craft, PT boats, STEARABLE carriers and of course more planes (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif) I bet AH has a better planeset than WB within the next 8 months to a year, wonder if WB3 will be out then?
Don't get me wrong 6pak I'm not slamming WB's community or you, I just realy don't understand why so many people still play such a dated game. When was the last time you tried AH? It's come a long way since 1.04 was released and I personaly have more fun in AH's MA than I ever did in WB's, except maybe durring the beta days. I think you should give it another go....
Udie
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Maybe your right.
BUT my 2 flings w/ AH left me very disappointed. last time was 1.03.
Six
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six-pk in WB's
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For Ripsnort....little off the subject, but I love the picture on you system....what video card you run sir knight ?? Mine not as perty as yours :-))
RAS
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This is my 1st post...
"Yep! $24.95 WB's and DOA (ien's WW1 sim)
That means ya can fly ww2 and ww1 for 24.95!"
I.E. for $25 you can fly ww2 and ww1.
that was all i was saying. (it's a good deal IMO)
Then the post went out of hand........
Six
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six-pk in WB's
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Originally posted by Six-pk:
And I don't like the text buffer!!! (LOL)
(sorry I got a bit testy lol!)
Six
hehehe NP man I don't think you were trolling or anything like MG or "warbirder" (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif) I still think you should give it another try though. The new FM's are alot less mushy now.
udie
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"Wow, what they talking about now?" <grabs a handful of popcorn> "I just got back from the bathroom. BTW,RAM, you have a real nicely decorated bathroom (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)"
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we get for $5.00 more is one heck of a deal.
eskimo
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Six-Pk drooled...
Anyhoo I tryed AH twice and could not stand it!
Then why the hell are you posting here?
Go away! Go play in your little arcade no-strat air-only kiddie arena!!!
(http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
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Originally posted by 1776:
"Wow, what they talking about now?" <grabs a handful of popcorn> "I just got back from the bathroom. BTW,RAM, you have a real nicely decorated bathroom (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)"
You just lost a very funny sketch, 1776...I'm still laughing!
BTW I hope you liked the gal pic I have on the wall of the bathroom (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
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"Ya, nice, my sister before she entered the convent." <closes pocket knife>"Hope ya don't mind me initials carved in the wall??"
<holds up multi rolls of tp>"Let's have some fun later at Six-pk's house, ya in Rip?"
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I almost renewed my iEN account so I could get some time in DoA. I loved it there and ended playing the last several months through that insufferable iLZ playing DoA almost exclusively. Then I thought about that viewing system and 2D art and just decided it wasnt worth the hassle.
I wish HTC would put some WW1 planes in a seperate arena but I understand that manpower requirements pretty much make that unlikely.
Yeager
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Well, i aint afraid to use my WB's handle.
There is so much out-and-out Bull**** "opinion" posted in this thread that it isn't worth pointing it out line-by-line. When people claim their "opinion" as "fact" it's laughable.
What it boils down to is "which sim do you have the most fun playing"???
People who say "WBIII will rock" or "WBIII will suck" especially get my goat. Until we see WBIII in production it's pointless to praise or slam it.
Cabby
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=44th FS "VAMPIRES"=
"The Jungle Air Force"
Welcome To The Jungle!!!"
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WBIII will suck!!
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Watching the various collection of p***ks from both sides of the fence slate off the other persons sim just plain sucks.
If I was a newbie and I saw this, I think I would be looking at a Microsoft sim (sic).
Kill this thread now...
Thrax
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<just cause I love a good barbeque>
I was a closed beta tester in AH. Ive kept up with all the current revisions.
But, it still never grabbed me like WB did.
Notice I said did. I dont fly WB as much as I used to, mainly because Im heavily involved with Closed Beta testing of another game. But I am looking forward to seeing what WB3 is like.
Who knows. Maybe AH 1.05 will be good. Maybe WB3 will be great. And who isnt looking forward to a glimpse of WW2OL.
Thats what makes online gaming so much fun. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
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Carrot
"Orange Death"
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Funked wrote
"Then why the hell are you posting here?"
Pot, Kettle, etc
Daff
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CO, 56th Fighter Group
"This is Yardstick. Follow me"
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Six-pk
You really need to get rid of that Verge DX 4 Meg Video card..
Dog out.......
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"You really need to get rid of that Verge DX 4 Meg Video card.."
Oh my! an attack on my 'puter! How manly!! (LOL)
btw I have 32 meg of Video cards, 8 in ATI expert@play and 2 Mon 2 12 meg each in SLI mode DX7a and 3DFX referance drivers for only DX7.
nice! (not the best today but was when I got it)
Six
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Wow, so you guys lose control at trolls too? (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
Hi guys! Hope your sim is doing well. We are excited about WBIII, beta CD's are shipping, but we still have time to bash CFSII also!
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Hedu, JG26, Warbirds and beyond.
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How fast is your CPU six-pak?
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Alright, who cross-posted this on AGW?
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Daff I'm certainly guilty of posting stupid things on AGW, but I never posted on AGW blatantly advertising AH pricing.
Since I stopped doing business with iEN I've restricted my posting on AGW to topics which might conceivably help iEN once again field a product that I am interested in.
This numbskull doesn't have any interest in AH - he's just here to plug WB. Open Season.
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"How fast is your CPU six-pak?"
PII 400.
Six
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Ok, this thread is dead. Don't post to it anymore.
I took the summer off from WB's. I haven't read an AH board in 6 months or so. I did not
know this was 'old news'.
I did not try to start a flame war. I just thought that a ww1 and a ww2 sim for the price would be a good post. I was wrong.
To who fly AH: I'm sorry.
thats it, Six
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six-pk in WB's
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-RAM gets the popcorn, the beer and the cigar and walks out laffing, waiting for the next show (soon in a screen near your's (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif))-
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Udie said:
"The part I find ironic is how this mirrors what happened when WB came out, only WB is the AW now :/ I realy though more people would come over from WB. So I guess I don't understand you WB "people" either."
Udie,
I am part of a group of warbirds people that has not "come over" to AH. The only reason is because AH doesnt run on our machines, so we have to wait for WWIIOL or WB3 to get an alternative to our thoroughly antiquated and obsolete, 2D sim, warbirds.
I went from AW (was playing since 87, callname "parsifal") to WB immediately. I would have certainly done the same thing when AH came out, had I been able to.
Do you understand now?
Salute and good memories,
parsifal, bati, figaro
P.S. Given the level of childish abuse commonly seen on this board (AGW is even worse), I fully expect my simple statement to be met with some form of abuse from some members of this community. To the others, my old friends from WB, and our common creators, Pyro et al., a very sincere salute, good luck, and thank you for all the good memories.
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-RAM comes back running to see the new chapter of the show, opens another cold beer, hangs another few of popcorn and see the flames starting again-
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seal
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they will be adding stuff all the time in WB's fashion
COOL! This means that we can expect to see the first update to WBIII some time in 2005.
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Claiming that better graphics equals less frame rate is not correct. It depends on the implementation of the graphics engine; better implementations can throw n more polys at the screen with equal frame rate.
Thinking that anything HT writes must be 'the better' implementation is wrong also. IMHO he is stuck in antics doing too many things in software. He has his own reasons for doing so how ever.
I must say I am not very educated how AH really does things this is just based on something I remember reading when discussions of T&L acceleration came out at the time of GeForce's introduction or there abouts.
//fats
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This is really scary to say, and I thought I would never ever say it .... (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
But Cabby is the voice of reason here, and I totally agree with him.
Enjoy which game you like.
Oh and my "handle" is the same whether its AW, WB's or AH. I am the same in all, none of this trolling psuedo personality crap
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Vermillion
**MOL**, Men of Leisure
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Funked, I think you rock and all that, but you did make posts of a similar character regarding AH on AGW. The topics might have been different, but I recall plenty of "if you don't like X in WB, then try AH 'cause it works"-type posts. Granted, you don't do it anymore and you actually have an interest in both sims, but the impact was to help generate the confrontational WB vs AH bs that we're now dealing with.
Point being, the stupid catcalling on various boards by both sides should end...
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What Cabby, Thrax and Figaro said! <S> on trying to put reason into this.
Cobra
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What res are you running six-pak? And what is your frame rate? My machine wouldnt run worth a flip on a PII400, went to 550, then to 800, now I can run the higher res's with an acceptable frame rate. I've got a geforce card ordred, which really oughta help me out.
Although you can run slower machines in this game than a 400, thats about as slow as I'd wanna go, you might think of doubling your cpu, theyre cheap now, as well as your video cards. It might change your view of the game if you could see it through the eyes of a higher, smoother running resolution...
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One thing that concerns me is that for those who enjoy flying DOA, the price jumped from 9.95 unlimted to 24.95 unlimted.
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Originally posted by RAS:
For Ripsnort....little off the subject, but I love the picture on you system....what video card you run sir knight ?? Mine not as perty as yours :-))
RAS
RAS, using Ultra TNT2 32 meg. card.
Rip
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<S> Figaro!
Figaro said:The only reason is because AH doesnt run on our machines, so we have to wait for WWIIOL or WB3 to get an alternative to our thoroughly antiquated and obsolete, 2D sim, warbirds.
Not sure if you meant that you have a MAC, however if you have a PC, and your machine won't run AH, then it CERTAINLY won't run WBIII and WW2 Online from what I've heard...but that stands to be seen.
Cya bud!
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Snakeyes I might have said some stuff like that in a thread, but I sure didn't start any threads on AGW with stuff like that in the subject line. That simply did not happen.
And yeah I am sick of that stuff too. These flamewars don't benefit the players or the software companies or anybody. I understand now that Six-Pk wasn't aware of the past BS that has gone on. I would have reacted differently if I had known that.
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Cabby, the voice of reason? Good God, what's next--dogs and cats living together?! (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
Btw, you won't hear any Warbirds bashing from me. It was my first online sim love, and it will always be. Kind of like the way Sean Connery will always be the "real" James Bond to me, so will Warbirds v1.11r2 always be the "real" Warbirds.
To me, Warbirds actually got worse when they went to v2.0(except for the visuals), and has since degradaded into the realm of stagnation. You can bet I'll be there to give WBIII a shot when it comes out.
And if it weren't for iEN's non-exsistent customer service(at least in the billing dept), I'd probably have kept my WB account.
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Dinger! Where the hell are you mate?
Missed ya in the EMC's lately.
Wb vrs Ah going Kain and Abel.
Ugly, very ugly (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/frown.gif)
(http://images.honesty.com/cgi-bin/honesty-image/8274624/rofsmall.gif)
Jan -lapwin- Veninga
CO. 1st.ROF NETHERLANDS 322 Sq. RAF (http://fly.to/1st.ROF)
"Niet praten, maar doen!"
Chief EMCiAgency. lapw++ WarBirds® CM.
EMC: Every wednesday an historical mission (http://www3.iencentral.com/events/euro/emc/)
wwiiol TechPubs and SOE Staff
EURO-CON: Meet and greet European WarBirds,
Aces High and WW2OL Euro-pilots
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Salute Rip!
Mac here, hence the reference to WWIIOL as THE alternative to the current situation.
A Mac port for AH would bring me over in a flash. I havent flown WB for more than a month now. I find the game depressing (2D, frequent damage and gunnery changes, community infighting, no changes in months), and I fell quite guilty about turning off after 13 years of intense enjoyment...
Anyway, here´s to the future!
Cheers
figaro
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Fig fig fig
Frequent gunnery/damage changes? There has been no damage or gunnery changes in quite some time. There has been NO gunnery or damage changes since 2.76 came out. Why perpetuate DISINFORMATION?
Community in-fighting? Whatever. The community likes to jostle, if ya can't stand the heat, by all means, stay outa the kitchen, fella.
"...turning off after 13 years of intense enjoyment..."
hmmm have no idea what you talking about on that one. 13 years of intense enjoyment of what?
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I see the consumer's value as what he gets/what he gives. Price is the easy part of the value equation to change. What he gets in return for his money is not so easy for everyone to change. A big part of the value our product is that it is constantly improving. It's why we don't do anything else other than develop AH.
It's been two years since HT and I left Warbirds. In the two years prior to us departing, we went from version 1.09 to 2.5. From 17 plane choices to 55. We also produced DoA and FO in that period. If you've been happy with the progress in the two years since we've left, then by all means you should stay there. We realized coming into this that up-front, our biggest competitor would be ourselves.
In the 5 years I've been doing this, there's constantly been somebody to tell us how this or that product is going to come out and crush us. But we've just kept doing our thing and improving while the hype just drags out. C'est la vie. We're comfortable with who we are and how we do things. You should be comfortable with your decisions too.
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Good post Pyro, well thought out and well written.
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Good compliment rip, well thought out and written. No spelling errors either. I would give it a 9 out of 10 actually. The only reason I don't give it a 10 is because I don't believe in perfection. The timing was excellent too, no posts in between yours or Pyro's. Very impressive.
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Good rip on Rip Kats, well thought out and well written. Excellent mimicry and sarcasm. However you lose 3 points. One for the 10 hour 27 minute delay in posting, one for not cross-posting to AGW (the mark of an Experte Rip-ripper), and one for not posting the following image.
(http://wrecks.org/rah-rah-rip.jpg)
7/10. Work on it.
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-RAM SPITS OFF THE BEER AND FALLS OF THE ARMCHAIR!!!-
LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
-RAM gets on the armchair again, and keeps on watching...the show is not (and not by long) going to end-
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P.S:
<S!> Pyro
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If I ever meet you Funked, I am going to buy you the biggest bottle of beer I can find (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
Thrax
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hblair,
Don't expect too much of an improvement. Any improvement you will get is due to better fill rate, but you can watch your GPU go pretty much unused.
// fats
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Originally posted by Thrax:
If I ever meet you Funked, I am going to buy you the biggest bottle of beer I can find (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
Thrax
And what about me for eventually convincing you that AH is much better than WB's is currently? (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif) AND...where are the "Thank You's" to HTC for forcing WB's to lower their price to flat rate? (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
Funked, that's really a bad picture, slumped in my couch...I have one in a G-string if you'd like to doctor it up... (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
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No matter how open minded you are you still are gonna have an biased oppinion no matter what sim you currently fly.
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AH : Maniac
WB : -nr-1-
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7/10. Work on it.
shite!!!!!!!!!!!
<goes into agw archives looking for old D(o)(o)D posts>
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Spitboy made that picture. Make sure he gets some of the beer. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
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<punt>
This thread is too much fun to let it end (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
J_A_B
PS: I think the AH and WB's communities fight so much because the games are so similar and the communities so related.
I don't see fighting between AH and AW.
There is no fighting between FA and AW.
FA and WB's don't seem to fight, either.
*BUT*
WB's fans seem to think AH is just a "cheap imitation" of WarBirds.
AH fans see WB's as an outdated dinosaur.
Then there are the people caught in the middle, who play both games.
Then there is me, who is essentially an outside observer. To me, it seems silly (kinda like the Jews and Arabs fighting).
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Then there are those like me, who started out in Warbirds, and then came to Aces High, for a number of reasons. The games were made by the same people, I'll stick with the one they are making now (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
Hamish!