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Title: Simple, weapons from WWII
Post by: Jolly on May 01, 2006, 10:07:16 PM
Hello all,  

I am not going to ask for any super weapons, NO V-2s with A BOMBS.

1) Two simple changes to the CV fleets, 1) if you have control of the fleet you can only up a gun on the CV, just like the real WWII, fleet commanders nevered took off, they stayed on the fleet.

2) CV Fleets should be re-supplied, I mean we can re-supply, fields, ports, bases, cities, factorys, Why not just land a C-47 on the CV, stop and drop supplies.

Weapons needed

1) Napalm, for use against Ammo and fuel bunkers, town building, Ack guns, and GV.  Just like the real WWII.

2) JU-87 with a pair of 40 MM tank buster guns,

Change to  bomber groups

1) If we can up a bombers with 3 aircraft, why can't we up bomber with 7 aircraft, so 3 players can fly in a bomb group of 21 aircraft just like WWII group.

2) Add a formation button, so when you click on it , you join up with the person you pick as leader. After that all your bombers join and fly a tight group with your leader. Just like WWII.
Title: Simple, weapons from WWII
Post by: RTSigma on May 01, 2006, 10:15:01 PM
I like #1 as long as there some way to show direct control, like a cockpit for the fleet.
#2 may be tough to do or illogical, can't bring back sunk ships.

Weapons:
Napalm I could see for light GVs but generally napalm was for entrenched soldiers in pillboxes, trenches, etc in the Pacific.
The Ju-87 you are referring to is the G-1 with 37mm PAK guns, each with 6-12 rounds I believe.

Bombers:
I believe currently 3 is enough. Having 7 would make it too easy to completely finish a field off while having "7 lives". Imagine facing against one player that has control of 7 bombers and their guns?

As for the formation part, I don't see it as necessary, planes were piloted by pilots, not by other pilots that were "locked in". We already have AI formation. Its not that hard to fly in formation, just set a speed and cruise.
Title: Simple, weapons from WWII
Post by: Speed55 on May 02, 2006, 12:02:11 AM
i  like idea #2, and thought about that a few times.

Maybe make it so only a goon that has landed on the cv can re-supply it.
Or by bringing a damaged cv back to port the whole carrier group is fixed after 10 min.
From the clipboard you could see a damage %, so you can tell how much it has to be resupplied.
As far as the sunk ships, once gone you couldn't bring them back in open sea, but if you could at the port, and they would respawn with the whole carrier group when its fixed.
As it is now, afaik, once a cv is damaged theres no helping it. You can pull it out of  a battle, but once you bring it back in its soft.

As far as the bomber idea.. Post a bomber mission, and you'll likely get more than 21 buffs in your formation.
Title: Re: Simple, weapons from WWII
Post by: SAS_KID on May 02, 2006, 12:11:17 AM
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Originally posted by Jolly
Hello all,  

I am not going to ask for any super weapons, NO V-2s with A BOMBS.

1) Two simple changes to the CV fleets, 1) if you have control of the fleet you can only up a gun on the CV, just like the real WWII, fleet commanders nevered took off, they stayed on the fleet.

2) CV Fleets should be re-supplied, I mean we can re-supply, fields, ports, bases, cities, factorys, Why not just land a C-47 on the CV, stop and drop supplies.

Weapons needed

1) Napalm, for use against Ammo and fuel bunkers, town building, Ack guns, and GV.  Just like the real WWII.

2) JU-87 with a pair of 40 MM tank buster guns,

Change to  bomber groups

1) If we can up a bombers with 3 aircraft, why can't we up bomber with 7 aircraft, so 3 players can fly in a bomb group of 21 aircraft just like WWII group.

2) Add a formation button, so when you click on it , you join up with the person you pick as leader. After that all your bombers join and fly a tight group with your leader. Just like WWII.


Napalm not really effective here and it would cause frame rates to go crazy low. Considering a flaming field freezes up the vets Windows 1802's nowadays.:lol
The Ju87 had 37mm cannons with very very small amount of ammo

7 bombers is way to much. And why not just get 7 people to up?

Also, tell me a time when a C47 dropped field supplies on an Aircraft carrier and tell me what would it make come back faster? Right now it only does strats. Plus, CV's repair themselves.
Title: Simple, weapons from WWII
Post by: Pooh21 on May 02, 2006, 12:27:28 AM
you people really need to update your Commodore 64s so I can vulch people with napalm. Thats almost as fun as giving teammates 6 calls during a mission then shooting tracers over their canopy
Title: Re: Simple, weapons from WWII
Post by: Oleg on May 02, 2006, 01:53:22 AM
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Originally posted by Jolly
1) If we can up a bombers with 3 aircraft, why can't we up bomber with 7 aircraft, so 3 players can fly in a bomb group of 21 aircraft just like WWII group.


Why only 7 not 21 ? Then you will able to fly "historical bomber group" alone.  :rolleyes:

I think HTC must perk formation of 3 buffs (not too hard yet) to stop suicide porkers run. Or decrease effect of it at least.

Quote
Originally posted by Jolly
2) Add a formation button, so when you click on it , you join up with the person you pick as leader. After that all your bombers join and fly a tight group with your leader. Just like WWII.


Bombers in RL WW2 had "formation button"? :eek: You cannt follow leader and keep tight formation w/o it? You really so suck? :rofl
Title: Simple, weapons from WWII
Post by: moneyguy on May 02, 2006, 03:20:09 PM
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Originally posted by Pooh21
you people really need to update your Commodore 64s so I can vulch people with napalm. Thats almost as fun as giving teammates 6 calls during a mission then shooting tracers over their canopy


i did that the other day and shot my wing off :huh
Title: Simple, weapons from WWII
Post by: SAS_KID on May 02, 2006, 09:33:33 PM
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Originally posted by moneyguy
i did that the other day and shot my wing off :huh


lol you must have bad aim:lol  if you know bout killshooter then you know but if you don't then it is if you hit a friendly you get hurt if killshooter is enable and not you. Ahhh remember when i pissed a noob off when he strafed a friendly tank and blamed me for shooting him down. Then he tried to up i fired over his aircraft so it looked like i was shooting him as he was shooting off the runway and he died. Then he said i was vulching him. So I did it till i ran out of ammo in a 190D best 15min of life:lol :lol :D
Title: Simple, weapons from WWII
Post by: bkbandit on May 02, 2006, 09:43:59 PM
they had incedairys but they didnt have "napalm" until vietnam.  Napalm was a more potent incidairy weapon but the ones in ww2 where still good.  I would like them to burn down towns but the frame rate would turn to crap so i guess it cant happen.
Title: Simple, weapons from WWII
Post by: Ghosth on May 03, 2006, 07:49:21 AM
not true Bkbandit.

Napalm was invented during the war and used extensively in the pacific battles.

Do a little research.
Title: Simple, weapons from WWII
Post by: Bogie603rd on May 03, 2006, 03:10:03 PM
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Originally posted by bkbandit
they had incedairys but they didnt have "napalm" until vietnam.  Napalm was a more potent incidairy weapon but the ones in ww2 where still good.  I would like them to burn down towns but the frame rate would turn to crap so i guess it cant happen.


*Rings a mistake bell* WRONG!!! I have diaries of pilots who at one point used napalm to light coals in Brittain known as "Coke". The darn things wouldnt light so they put 2-3 drops of napalm on the "Coke" and lit it up.

Oh, and Ghosth, just so you know, it was also used in the Atlantic Theater:aok
Title: Simple, weapons from WWII
Post by: Nemeth on May 05, 2006, 09:34:13 PM
yeh napalm was very popular in the pacific because the jap. towns/ cities were nostly made of wood and other flamable materials. the napalm killed more japs. than regular ordinace, havnt really heard about it in the alantic, or atleast not as much
Title: Simple, weapons from WWII
Post by: Brenjen on May 05, 2006, 09:55:14 PM
"napalm" is a joining of the words "naphthalene" and "palmitate", napthalene is used in dry cleaning & palmitate is a major ingredient of palm oil. These two ingredients were added to aviation fuel by an enterprising sarge in WWII to cause the gasoline to gell. Gelled gasoline burns longer because it doesn't evaporate as fast & it sticks to what it hits.

 You can make it, as was dicovered later, by adding gasoline to foam packing peanuts. As a matter of fact, an earlier relative of napalm was invented by the Germans & used in WWI in their flame throwers at the battle of chateau theory. Heck This type of weapon has been around in one form or another since "greek fire" was used thousands of years ago.
Title: Simple, weapons from WWII
Post by: Debonair on May 06, 2006, 12:43:17 AM
chateau theory, the chanpagne best served in an aluminum foil hat
Title: Simple, weapons from WWII
Post by: Jake54 on May 06, 2006, 12:57:18 AM
I agree on the more bomber Clones.
Title: Simple, weapons from WWII
Post by: Bronk on May 06, 2006, 08:14:15 AM
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Originally posted by Jake54
I agree on the more bomber Clones.



Nahh 3 box with lazers are quite enough thank you.




Bronk
Title: Simple, weapons from WWII
Post by: Hoarach on May 06, 2006, 08:31:26 AM
So instead of 24 guns shooting at you (im excluding the nose guns) we will have 56 guns shoting at us.  Buffs would then be almost impossible to shoot down.
Title: Simple, weapons from WWII
Post by: Nemeth on May 06, 2006, 10:53:12 AM
yeh i was watching the military channel this morning and they used Incendiary  bombs not napalm, just to clear that up
Title: Simple, weapons from WWII
Post by: RAIDER14 on May 06, 2006, 10:57:00 AM
Idea #2 is cool :aok  you can land almost anything on carriers and takeoff in almost anything on carriers
Title: Simple, weapons from WWII
Post by: bkbandit on May 06, 2006, 07:28:21 PM
I watch alot of military channel aswell.  I remember watchin somethin on vietnam when they started talkin about napalm.

Yea i dont think u should add anymore bomber clones.  Imagine 3 sets of 5 bomers and ur in a fighter about to intercept.  That would be one of the scariest things i have seen.  3 is enuff, even when attackin one lone bomber u have to aproach with caution.
Title: Simple, weapons from WWII
Post by: OOZ662 on May 06, 2006, 08:17:05 PM
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Originally posted by Speed55
As it is now, afaik, once a cv is damaged theres no helping it. You can pull it out of  a battle, but once you bring it back in its soft.


After a certain amount of time, all things on a task force will regenerate (including hardness) EXCEPT the flagship (99% of the time that's the CV; it's a map feature to change the flagship) and the radar.
Title: Simple, weapons from WWII
Post by: TEShaw on May 08, 2006, 02:15:55 PM
Hey!

Anyone else remember when all those 'Dow, POW' commercials disappeared from TV?