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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: Pongo on May 10, 2000, 09:14:00 AM
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Do some WW2 planes imbue the pilot with the ability to withstand higher Gs? Or do some WW2 planes allow a given manuver to be performed with lower Gs on the pilot?
Inquiring minds want to know...
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Yes.
For example, the 109 had the pilots legs higher than the Spitfire did. Thus, the blood wasn't pulled as hard towards the pilots feet. This is the only thing about the 109 that was better than the Spit through the entire war.
Sisu
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Originally posted by Karnak:
"This is the only thing about the 109 that was better than the Spit through the entire war."
Sisu
<Rip pulls up a chair, takes the marsh mellows out of the bag, patiently waits for fire to ignite>
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<Saw pulls up a second chair next to rip, opens a beer Can, hands one to Rip...>
{Saw}: U forgot the Beer...
{Ripsnort}: Yeah...but I brought the Marshmallows !...
{Saw}:...
{Ripsnort}: Think we'll need a blanket ?
{Saw}: Don't be a fool, this barn is going to burn soon enough (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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Baddawg pulls up in his pick up. Sets up BBQ
and camping chairs, opens cooler grabs a beer
and puts some marinated ribs on the BBQ.
"This could be good uh fella's any idea whos going to show up"?
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<Waves at dogfigter from the window !>...Don't worry, "Jesus" will soon show up with his bag of Magic... (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/tongue.gif)
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Just a shame that the stickforces were too heavy in the 109 to pull any significant G's <G>
Daff
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CO, 56th Fighter Group
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I wasn't saying that the blackout was the only thing that was better about the 109, I was saying that it was the only thing that was ALWAYS better, regardless of the versions that are being compared. The 109E out rolled the Spit MkI, but the Spit MkIX out rolled the 109G is an example of something that was sometimes in favor of the 109 and sometimes in favor of the Spit.
Sisu
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Originally posted by Karnak:
Yes.
For example, the 109 had the pilots legs higher than the Spitfire did. Thus, the blood wasn't pulled as hard towards the pilots feet. This is the only thing about the 109 that was better than the Spit through the entire war.
Sisu
Among way many other things (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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<Ripsnort grumbles, puts the marshmellows bag into the bag, moves onto another thread that may have some flame for roasted marshmellows, but before leaving, gets Saw to look the other way, and swipes the last beer in the cooler>
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So the 109 should handle Gs better in the game then a spit V?
I find that not only can it turn like a bat but the pilot can stay clear headed throughout better then a F4 or G2 for example.
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Keep in mind that speed has a huge effect on G force. If you enter the turn with the Spit at 200 mph and at 300 mph in the 109, the 109 pilot will blackout whereas the Spit pilot will not. All things being equal, the Spit pilot will black out slightly, definately noticably, before the 109 pilot does.
Sisu
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How much difference did the top position on the Spits rudder pedals make? Did all the spits have this or just the later ones?
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EEEK ! I'm Missing a Beer ! Ripsnoooooooooooooooort !!!!!!
PS : I toldya Jesus'd put his nose in here (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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I always thought it would be pretty cool to base G tollerence on streaks. so as long as you keep your little virtual aviator alive you could gain up to say up to 8 or 9 G's before being totally blinded by the black screen. (what is it now? 7? )
I think loss of color would be fun too.
all that great disorienting stomach churning physiology stuff rocks <grin> (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
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That must be it karnak. I knew that there where ergonomic ways to make an AC more G friendly but I did not know if any WW2 AC where made with that consideration or if it was really in the game.
Thnks guys
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Hey Karnak: If the real expression is Airspeed then let the truth be know the Greater the airspeed the faster the rate but the larger the radius of turn, and the slower the airspeed the slower the rate and smaller the radius this is basic stuff karnak and is the reason for High and Low YO YO in dogfights to bring and attempt the equalize the playing field between dissimular aircraft base on their ability to out turn each other base on speed. Geees
(http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif) and I also like marshmellows and Beer and on cold nights and shot of vodka aint't bad either.
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The 190 had a better pilot position for handling g's than other ac also.
Kinda moot though considering the much larger factor of individual pilot tolerance.
Better we should make each AH "pilot" undergo a centrifuge test and then model the blackout points individualy.
lazs