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Title: Moussaui gets life
Post by: BlueJ1 on May 03, 2006, 03:40:45 PM
CNN (http://www.cnn.com/2006/LAW/05/03/moussaoui.verdict/index.html)

Moussaui isspending the rest of his life in prison.

Question to you all. Why not the death penalty?
Title: Moussaui gets life
Post by: Maverick on May 03, 2006, 03:45:02 PM
My best guess for no execution is that there were no plausible overt acts deliberately made by him that directly caused a loss of life. Had there been anything that showed he was directly responsible for any deaths then he might have gotten the death penalty.

Frankly I think it was the correct decision in this case.
Title: Moussaui gets life
Post by: Urchin on May 03, 2006, 03:46:11 PM
That and he WANTED to die.  

Keep him away from Paradise for a while... I hope he lives to 150.
Title: Moussaui gets life
Post by: BlueJ1 on May 03, 2006, 03:47:57 PM
Thankyou sirs.
Title: Moussaui gets life
Post by: 007Rusty on May 03, 2006, 03:48:07 PM
was a good call i think but what do i know
Title: Moussaui gets life
Post by: BlueJ1 on May 03, 2006, 03:52:29 PM
One more question. For those of you that are not from the U.S.A. What do you think of the situation? and verdict?
Title: Moussaui gets life
Post by: Goomba on May 03, 2006, 04:15:11 PM
It would have been more emotionally satisfying to see him get dead.  

I got the impression that the outcome he prayed for was to be executed, so he could be a glorious martyr and get 72 virgins in heaven.

Now, he gets to spend the rest of his twisted life as a captive of those he hates most in the world, and now he's no martyr...just a loser.

I hope the sentence leaves him suffering, broken and miserable.  His mother must be so proud.
Title: Moussaui gets life
Post by: Goth on May 03, 2006, 04:18:57 PM
Some primate behind bars will end his life for him. I seriously doubt he will serve 5 yrs.
Title: Moussaui gets life
Post by: BlueJ1 on May 03, 2006, 04:21:18 PM
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Originally posted by Goth
Some primate behind bars will end his life for him. I seriously doubt he will serve 5 yrs.


I bet he will be in solitary for the rest of his life just for that reason.
Title: Moussaui gets life
Post by: CyranoAH on May 03, 2006, 04:22:52 PM
Not much to discuss. Good call on the life sentence I guess... and nothing but American Idol and the likes in his cell.
Title: Moussaui gets life
Post by: straffo on May 03, 2006, 04:23:53 PM
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Originally posted by BlueJ1
One more question. For those of you that are not from the U.S.A. What do you think of the situation? and verdict?


It's fair, and smarter than making him a martyr.
Title: Moussaui gets life
Post by: BlueJ1 on May 03, 2006, 04:27:19 PM
Thankyou CyranoAH and straffo. Was curious of the views of outsiders.
Title: Moussaui gets life
Post by: Fishu on May 03, 2006, 04:27:34 PM
Life in jail is a punishment for him, death wouldn't have been. I wonder why people are dissapointed about that. They wanted to punish him, right?
Besides, he's going to have many not so merry friends in jail (It'd be amazing if his mates doesn't kill him) :D
Title: Moussaui gets life
Post by: Reschke on May 03, 2006, 04:29:04 PM
Somehow he will be killed in prison and the person who does it will be pardoned and then it will be a footnote on the daily news one evening.
Title: Moussaui gets life
Post by: RAIDER14 on May 03, 2006, 04:32:45 PM
he got life in prison

(http://www.clicksmilies.com/s0105/party/party-smiley-050.gif)
Title: Moussaui gets life
Post by: Sixpence on May 03, 2006, 04:41:05 PM
He said "America lost and I won". We'll see if he thinks the same after a few months of having American infidels stick it up his *** every day.
Title: Moussaui gets life
Post by: Redwing on May 03, 2006, 04:47:04 PM
The best news in weeks.
Title: Moussaui gets life
Post by: Skuzzy on May 03, 2006, 04:57:19 PM
So, is he in a state prison?  I hope so.  I do not want my federal tax dollars going towards sustaining his life.  Given the state of our judicial system, it would not surprise me if he was out of prison in less than 10 years.

Yes, I am incredbily pessimestic about our legal system.
Title: Moussaui gets life
Post by: Wolfala on May 03, 2006, 04:59:22 PM
Kinda hoping someone hand picked a line of queers who would love to make acquaintence with that chubby butt of his. Gang rape for the rest of his days is worse then death, but who knows, maybe he'll get used to it. But yea, life - i agree.
Title: Moussaui gets life
Post by: Hangtime on May 03, 2006, 05:17:05 PM
McVeigh.. gets death. And quick, too!

This vile POS gets life?

Oh; great. Three squares, clean clothes and a TV...

This is a travesty.
Title: Moussaui gets life
Post by: 2bighorn on May 03, 2006, 05:17:39 PM
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Originally posted by Skuzzy
So, is he in a state prison?  I hope so.  I do not want my federal tax dollars going towards sustaining his life.  Given the state of our judicial system, it would not surprise me if he was out of prison in less than 10 years.
It was US District Court with federal judge and federal jury...
Title: Re: Moussaui gets life
Post by: xrtoronto on May 03, 2006, 05:20:07 PM
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Originally posted by BlueJ1
Why not the death penalty?


The way I see it, it is alot harder to spend every last waking moment in jail for decades than to be killed.

Looks good on him!:aok
Title: Moussaui gets life
Post by: Skuzzy on May 03, 2006, 05:27:12 PM
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Originally posted by 2bighorn
It was US District Court with federal judge and federal jury...
Sigh.  What a pathetic system we have.  Our tax dollars are going to be used to keep this lunatic alive.  Way to go U.S. judicial system.  What a farce.
Title: Moussaui gets life
Post by: Hangtime on May 03, 2006, 05:30:06 PM
I wonder how many americans abroad will be kidnapped and held hostage against his release.. and then killed when we don't let him go.
Title: Moussaui gets life
Post by: RAIDER14 on May 03, 2006, 05:33:16 PM
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Originally posted by Hangtime
McVeigh.. gets death. And quick, too!

This vile POS gets life?

Oh; great. Three squares, clean clothes and a TV...

This is a travesty.


Mcveigh carried out the Attack , Moussaui didn't attack anything that day

so they life sentence was the best outcome
Title: Moussaui gets life
Post by: BlueJ1 on May 03, 2006, 05:34:11 PM
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Originally posted by Hangtime
I wonder how many americans abroad will be kidnapped and held hostage against his release.. and then killed when we don't let him go.


Good point.
Title: Moussaui gets life
Post by: RAIDER14 on May 03, 2006, 05:37:10 PM
Alquida doesn't care about him thats why they took him off the attack group
Title: Moussaui gets life
Post by: cav58d on May 03, 2006, 05:41:42 PM
This sentence is a shock and a disapointment IMO...We have put men down for far less, and I believe it was done because of the morality fear of the jurors, instead of doing what was truely right...My biggest fear is what we have created...We have granted life, and therefor granted a living cause for Al Quaeda...Let us not forget Al Nasser, and why Al Quaeda attacked the WTC the first time.....

And this martyr arguement is bull....Upon hearing his sentence, moussaui clapped his hands and stated "America has lost, and I have won"...In the words of the great Mark Levin (5-3-2006), "Dead martyrs are better then live martyrs"
Title: Moussaui gets life
Post by: Hangtime on May 03, 2006, 06:00:46 PM
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Originally posted by RAIDER14
Mcveigh carried out the Attack , Moussaui didn't attack anything that day

so they life sentence was the best outcome


You absolutely sure McVeigh wasn't just the guy that parked a truck? He's the guy that fried.. but you think that kid dreamed that job up, got the materials, penetrated the security of a federal building to install bombs, built the bombs, paid for it all, sent notices to ATF agents to stay outta the office that day, co-ordinated the second bombs inside the building, got the survelience called off and pulled the plates off his car before he just drove away?

If McVeigh deserved to die.. and get executed in the fastest trial and execution sequence I've ever seen.. then that towlie sure as hell deserves to fry too.. and just as quickly.
Title: Moussaui gets life
Post by: Squire on May 03, 2006, 06:09:20 PM
I would have shed no tears over him had the verdict been death, but its what A-Q would have wanted, and they would have used him as a poster child for martyrdom. F*** him, let him rot in a cell.


"I wonder how many americans abroad will be kidnapped and held hostage against his release.. and then killed when we don't let him go."

If they want to do that Hang, don't you think they have enough motivation already? as if his death makes American or Western hostage taking any less likely? Their heads are filled up with enough crap to give them cause untill the end of time. I will also point out that you don't change your judicial system for terrorists, if he was supposed to get life, then give him life.
Title: Moussaui gets life
Post by: Hangtime on May 03, 2006, 06:09:36 PM
Nah. History won't repeat itself.
Title: Moussaui gets life
Post by: RAIDER14 on May 03, 2006, 06:11:41 PM
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Originally posted by Hangtime
You absolutely sure McVeigh wasn't just the guy that parked a truck? He's the guy that fried.. but you think that kid dreamed that job up, got the materials, penetrated the security of a federal building to install bombs, built the bombs, paid for it all, sent notices to ATF agents to stay outta the office that day, co-ordinated the second bombs inside the building, got the survelience called off and pulled the plates off his car before he just drove away?

If McVeigh deserved to die.. and get executed in the fastest trial and execution sequence I've ever seen.. then that towlie sure as hell deserves to fry too.. and just as quickly.


thats all correct except for one thing they don't fry people with the chair anymore they give em the needle and juice:aok
Title: Moussaui gets life
Post by: xrtoronto on May 03, 2006, 06:30:28 PM
This way he doesn't become a martyr to some mooselimbs; If he was executed, he'd become an instant martyr to millions.

Another thing: how long do you think before someone kills this guy in prison? He's going to have a huge target on his back. Remember Dahlmer? and how he met his fate? It's gonna happen.
Title: Moussaui gets life
Post by: RedTop on May 03, 2006, 06:39:25 PM
Wouldn't justice be so nice if it were an eye for and eye sometimes?

Like take this POS up in a chopper about say...oh...1100 feet in a net full of concrete blocks after you burned him with say oh......3rd degree burns over say...1/2 his body , and then just dropped him to the ground amonst all the say...oh...2 tons of concrete blocks and stuff in that net.

I hope he is butt raped 2 times a day for the next 40-50 years and goes straight to hell cause allah don't like his butt chafed *** no more.
Title: Moussaui gets life
Post by: Sixpence on May 03, 2006, 06:51:02 PM
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Originally posted by Skuzzy
Sigh.  What a pathetic system we have.  Our tax dollars are going to be used to keep this lunatic alive.  Way to go U.S. judicial system.  What a farce.


If he is not in solitary, he will not survive, he will die with a sore pooper. The death penalty would have meant a painless death by injection or something, let him suffer before he dies.

Where is a trial in Texas when you need it?:D
Title: Moussaui gets life
Post by: DREDIOCK on May 03, 2006, 06:54:11 PM
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Originally posted by straffo
It's fair, and smarter than making him a martyr.


Is it though?
How long before groups start blowing things up and kidnapping demanding his release?

Not that they arent doing that now.
but in a sense he may be considered a martyr either way.

Personally I think the only approperate penalty for him was to send a message by executing him and broadcasting it throughout the middle east.

Only executing him in a style more akin to one of the "Hellraiser" movies.

Slowly skin him alive or have his flesh ripped from his body by 1,000 embedded fishooks.

Give him and those like him a, as those from the mid east would say.
A death of a thousand screams.
Title: Moussaui gets life
Post by: Holden McGroin on May 03, 2006, 07:03:21 PM
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Originally posted by DREDIOCK
Slowly skin him alive or have his flesh ripped from his body by 1,000 embedded fishooks.


Probably not a kosher thing to do.

Better to just feed him three meals a day for the rest of his life.  

Three meals a day of Spam.
Title: Moussaui gets life
Post by: Hangtime on May 03, 2006, 07:24:40 PM
I like it.


:aok
Title: Moussaui gets life
Post by: storch on May 03, 2006, 07:30:59 PM
a very good sentence.  ask sirhan sirhan, the mohammadan who shot RFK how he likes going before parole boards and being denied parole.  this is what this monkey will have to live through.  I wish him good health and a very long life.
Title: Moussaui gets life
Post by: soda72 on May 03, 2006, 07:37:02 PM
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I wish him good health and a very long life.


:rofl
Title: Moussaui gets life
Post by: cav58d on May 03, 2006, 07:41:18 PM
Whether he was killed, or put in prison for life there will be a responce from the Jihadist world...Which responce will last longer?  Obviously life in prison...Just think how Al Jazerra, and propoganda tapes from Al Quaeda will spin this and get even more extremist to rally around the cause that we are "falsely holding him" bla bla bla....

and like I said....DONT FORGET THE FIRST ATTACK ON THE WTC....One of the many reasons claimed by Ramsey Usef for a justifiable attack was in responce to Al Nasser, and other islamic prisoners awaiting trial....

We would be more safe with mousawi (SP) dead
Title: Moussaui gets life
Post by: Gunslinger on May 03, 2006, 07:55:18 PM
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2006/5/3/191428/4440

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it should be obvious that moussouai was nothing more than a stand alone dupe who knew nothing.

he was not connected with the 9/11 plot in any way, shape or form and knew absolutely nothing.



How long till we see "Free Moussouai" signs at liberal moonbat anti-bush rallies?
Title: Moussaui gets life
Post by: DREDIOCK on May 03, 2006, 08:07:21 PM
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Originally posted by Holden McGroin
Probably not a kosher thing to do.

Better to just feed him three meals a day for the rest of his life.  

Three meals a day of Spam.


Why not Kosher?

The rest of the world wont like it?

Isnt the rest of the world that needs to get the message.
Look at the way they murder people. cutting off their heads and broadcasting it.

Its done for the shock value. For "the horror" to try tomake us afraid

I say show em we can get payback in ways they havent even dreamed of yet.

Outshock the shockers.
THEN you will get your message across.
then They will be the ones in fear
Title: Moussaui gets life
Post by: StSanta on May 04, 2006, 12:16:54 AM
"Ooh, slowly boiling a man's legs before cutting off his testicles and feeding them to himself. Pretty good Americans!

But, try this: first, we roast this person's feet. We feed them to his daughter (whom we're raping, btw), while we use a spoon to dig out his nuts. We shall then make interestin figures with his intestines, before tying them off to a rock and throwing him off a cliff - improvised bungee style.

We have no shortage of hostages or potential hostages. We're already mentally damanged beyond repair.

Your move, Americans. Think you can outdo us? Hah, we've been doing this since before you were in diapers.

Now where'd I put the acid?"

Yeah, that'll work, moral and ethical questions non withstanding.
Title: Moussaui gets life
Post by: Sandman on May 04, 2006, 12:20:03 AM
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Originally posted by Gunslinger

How long till we see "Free Moussouai" signs at liberal moonbat anti-bush rallies?


Probably never. :rolleyes:
Title: Moussaui gets life
Post by: nirvana on May 04, 2006, 01:01:26 AM
I'd consider myself generally more liberal then conservative, but you'd never see me holding a sign against jailing him.  Where's Bubba?
Title: Moussaui gets life
Post by: Yeager on May 04, 2006, 01:08:59 AM
The guy is a suck loser even by loser standards.  Im pleased they gave him life in a small box 23 hours a day, one hour a day in a slightly larger box.  Just wait until it finally sinks in for the poor bastard.....probably 30 years of nothing but a small box.  No other dumb bastards to play with.
Title: Moussaui gets life
Post by: Eagler on May 04, 2006, 07:02:18 AM
what skuzzy said..
a waste of my tax $$$
if prison were still a "Cool Hand Luke" style place, I'd be all for it .. but it ain't
even more $$ will be wasted making sure this cheekbones is protected from the general pop.  Alive he has a chance of getting out. Dead he didn't.
what a joke ... then again, what can we expect - what's OJs handicap these days??
Title: Moussaui gets life
Post by: NattyIced on May 04, 2006, 07:14:15 AM
So we kill him. He becomes a martyr. What then? Figurehead for a rejuvinated cause? I'd rather not find out.
Title: Moussaui gets life
Post by: Shifty on May 04, 2006, 07:23:46 AM
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Originally posted by Hangtime
McVeigh.. gets death. And quick, too!

This vile POS gets life?

Oh; great. Three squares, clean clothes and a TV...

This is a travesty.


I know I'm coming in late Hang. This POS is more along the lines of Terry Nichols , then McVeigh. I think maybe thats why he's getting life. I hope it's a long long rough one too.
Title: Moussaui gets life
Post by: Goth on May 04, 2006, 09:52:47 AM
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Originally posted by Skuzzy
Sigh.  What a pathetic system we have.  Our tax dollars are going to be used to keep this lunatic alive.  Way to go U.S. judicial system.  What a farce.


Skuzzmeister, you complain about giving him his three squares day however, and I am by no means an expert, but I heard it was more costly to keep someone on death row than it was for solitary life inprisonmnet. This joker will have a long time to pray for Allah to take him, and I bet this miserable bastard is mentally challenged already, so he will have many years of mental torture coming to him.

I am all for the life inprisonment, not because I am against the death penalty. Death is too good for this scumbag.
Title: Moussaui gets life
Post by: Suave on May 04, 2006, 09:59:57 AM
Death is a gift, he'll have to wait for the fates. I'm thankful of the decistion, let him have a million undead breaths.
Title: Moussaui gets life
Post by: mars01 on May 04, 2006, 10:07:00 AM
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Sigh. What a pathetic system we have. Our tax dollars are going to be used to keep this lunatic alive. Way to go U.S. judicial system. What a farce.
This is not posted at you Skuzz, but everyone who is worried about paying to keep this suckers alive...

I for one am happy to spend my money to keep this POS from his ultimate goal of Death and Martyrdom.  I hope he is in Gen pop and but Puked all day long by big arse guys with 15" you know what I mean.  I hope he gets a multi hole puking at both ends.

Let him die by inmate.  I'll even throw a few extra bucks to put a few more of his brethren in there with him.

As for the - Oh no how many more atrocities are we going to have to face in the name of his release.  AS if they need any more excuses.  OK so this one is 900,999th excuse for these fks.

National Geo did a great 4 hour multi part expose on 911 starting from the day Bin Ladden hit the world scene.

At the end they left us with a quote from Binstunninghunk:

"We love death, Americans love life that is the difference."

So yes let him rott.  I only wish him long life, fk good health.
[rant off]
Title: Moussaui gets life
Post by: Bodhi on May 04, 2006, 10:07:03 AM
Why complain?  The whole of the trial was a farce anyways...

This guy was a second rate failure, and ALL the feds have to show for their whopping investigation.  Life, hell, they should have let him go and spent the money someplace better.  All this trial did was give national publicity to a whacko and air out his views...  dumb.
Title: Moussaui gets life
Post by: moot on May 04, 2006, 10:08:18 AM
Having his excrements and CO2 recycled as much as possible and be fed back to him would help deminish the cost of his life support.

Means should go towards those not yet caught/neutralized, e.g. Bin Laden & co.
Title: Moussaui gets life
Post by: Eagler on May 04, 2006, 12:20:29 PM
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Originally posted by mars01
... Oh no how many more atrocities are we going to have to face in the name of his release.  AS if they need any more excuses.  OK so this one is 900,999th excuse for these fks....
[rant off]



that is what I feel about those who say terminating him would make him a martyr...

a mayrtr to who? for what? as if the cheekboness who blow themselves up in market places really need another excuse/reason...
bet you 80% of the global crazed allah zombies haven't even heard of this ****  .. flush him
Title: Moussaui gets life
Post by: Sandman on May 04, 2006, 12:53:06 PM
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Originally posted by Bodhi
Why complain?  The whole of the trial was a farce anyways...

This guy was a second rate failure, and ALL the feds have to show for their whopping investigation.  Life, hell, they should have let him go and spent the money someplace better.  All this trial did was give national publicity to a whacko and air out his views...  dumb.


Had he been successful, he'd already be dead.

I think the sentence was a just one.
Title: Moussaui gets life
Post by: Holden McGroin on May 04, 2006, 01:33:49 PM
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Originally posted by DREDIOCK
Why not Kosher?

The rest of the world wont like it?


(Kosher means following Jewish practice and blessed by a Rabbi) there was some humor in the word choice.

We have something in the constitution which prohibits cruel and unusual punishment, and I thing skinning someone alive would qualify under that prohibition.

I have a wonderfully illustrated and gilded copy of the Koran I would like to send Moussaui.  Anybody know how I could send it to him? It's really a magnifcent copy with a rich hand tooled pigskin cover.
Title: Moussaui gets life
Post by: Hangtime on May 04, 2006, 01:37:01 PM
LOL!
Title: Moussaui gets life
Post by: Shuckins on May 04, 2006, 04:49:34 PM
Someone pointed out that keeping him alive, and in prison, keeps him from becoming a martyr for the fanatical muslim terrorists bent on destroying the United States.

Still another poster stated that he played only a peripheral role in the attacks of 9/11, because Al Qaida didn't really care about him, and that the sentence meted out to him was appropriate for that reason.

He may not be a martyr, as that word is defined, but he will become a cause celebre .  If Al Qaida did not care about him before, they most certainly will now.

The first kidnappings to coerce us into releasing him may come within the next month.
Title: Moussaui gets life
Post by: uvwpvW on May 04, 2006, 04:50:50 PM
So what did this guy do anyway? (I'm totaly ignorant of the details)