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General Forums => Wishlist => Topic started by: MotleyCH on May 04, 2006, 01:37:00 PM
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I'm sure it was asked before..but why don't we have A-26 Invaders?
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dont know why dont we
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i dunno, but it would b 1 hell of a aircraft
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Probably because WarBirds and AirWarrior both had it, so HT decided to do something different?
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I don't ever remember seeing an A-26 in WB...was it in WB3?
anyway, IMO planes like that are poor additions to this type of sim.
they're abbused, used as fighters more than anything else, like the Il-2 is.
so i doubt the 1001st request is going to change any minds...
...Il-10 would make a nice new plane also...
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We have the A-20G.
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may be thay will put it in soon
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Originally posted by MotleyCH
I'm sure it was asked before..but why don't we have A-26 Invaders?
Because we have the A-20G which served longer, in more places, in greater numbers (far greater) and is not a far removed plane. Yes, the A-26 is "better" but a capable pilot in an A-20 can due mucho damage.
It's like modeling the B-29--why when there are so many other gaps to fill?
It came into service (delivered) in late 1944 so it served what? 6-7 months in Europe and maybe slightly more in the Pac.
It would be great, but it's not as necessary or desriable as a great many other models for that reason.
It's an Uber model of its class.
Sakai
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Originally posted by Sakai
It came into service (delivered) in late 1944 so it served what? 6-7 months in Europe and maybe slightly more in the Pac.
Sakai
There's a lot of planes currently in the game that fit this same description that are especially flown in the MA.
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Originally posted by Squire
We have the A-20G.
And we have like 5 versions of the spit and several 109's.
Not saying I'm for or against getting an A-26 in the game. just saying using the reason for not getting it added because we have an A-20 is not a good arguement, sense we have tons or other planes that are so simular.
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i would REALLY love to see the a26 when they update the other attack planes, it's such an awesome ride, imagine what was it? 18 forward firing 50's?? lol, i'd just go hoing all the ace pilot nikis all day hehe
no seriously, it would be a really great addition, would be a lot of fun:D
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The A-26 is a future Perk Plane.
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Originally posted by Stoney74
There's a lot of planes currently in the game that fit this same description that are especially flown in the MA.
Absolutely, but few have the precsie corrollary of the A-26/A-20.
The Allied bombing issue is more complex than say, German or English fighters or Japanese or Italian Planes.
American production was insane and we made many, many planes of various types that flew and engaged in combat. By contrast, the important planes of the luftwaffe are far, far fewer in model types and only really come into play as variants. The Luftwobblers amongst us have to have the various iterations of the 190s and 109s or there is not an interesting enough plane set to keep them here. The Allies had sooooo many aircraft they can model, why model the A-26 when TOD is the next big whammy? If the 8th AF campaign is the gig, the 109 and 190 variants and American heavies were the thing to concentrate on. Heck, in such a planeset new skins and configurations for the B-17 are vastly more important than is the A-26.
Why not concentrate on early war aircraft now so we can wage a true rolling planeset? Because, as in hunting rifles, we need more magnums, faster is always better!!!!!
By all means, make the A-26, but only after the rolling planeset with early war horses is completed. Toward that end, the most important medium bombers to make would be what? An He-111? The SM-79? A Maryland? A Wellington? A Do-17? For the Yanks, it has to be the B-25.
I love the A-26! It's a fantastic plane, but it's really just an A-20 on steroids and I don't think the performance difference is as great as say that between the F4F and the F6F is it? Perhaps it is, but interms of importance to the war the A-26/A-20 comparison is no F6F/F4F comparison. But if the rolling planset is desired for immersion, we need earliest craft. Let's get it after we have the early war fleshed out because for 3+ years the A-20 was the best attacker we made and for 4-6 months it was the A-26.
Joe Baugher's site notes the max speed difference between the A-20G and A-26C as about 20 MPH--not enough to worry about, extra 2k ordinance which is sweet.
Sakai
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I know it isn't the same thing, but the B-26s as modeled have 4 foward firing .50s, and you get two drones to boot, so you can do some strafing with them if you don't like the A-20.
But I am in agreement with Sakai -- several other bombers should have precedence.
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Originally posted by Debonair
I don't ever remember seeing an A-26 in WB...was it in WB3?
anyway, IMO planes like that are poor additions to this type of sim.
they're abbused, used as fighters more than anything else, like the Il-2 is.
so i doubt the 1001st request is going to change any minds...
...Il-10 would make a nice new plane also...
WarBirds never had a A-26, but AW did. WarBirds had or has a B-25H, which was a real fun plane to fly. A B-25H without a bomb load could be used as a fighter, but you really had a real workout to do so. By chance one time I found it was a really good B-17 killer. That 75mm cannon at close range would do the trick with one shot. But then again, you had to be able to get in that close first. The A-26 in AW was a pretty good fighter too, was called the F-26 by players in the game, but I saw people that flew the B-25 bombers as fighters and do rather well with them. One thing that WarBirds 3 has that I wish we had here is delayed fused bombs, and para bombs for low level bomb runs. Something rarely done in the ETO, but done quite a bit in the PTO. One way to eliminate the dive bombing heavies.
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I would have sworn we had it back in WB2.7, but maybe I'm just remembering everyone wishing for it all the time. The B-25H was a blast though, was one of the 3 best ship killers in the game (other two being the P-39 and Bf110G). Loaded woth rockets, skip bombs and all the nose guns, one or two could take out a whole supply convoy on the NG terrain :)
Only guy I knew who could really fly it well enough to use it as a fighter was MitchH, but he sually just killed you from the gun positions- the guy could kill a whole squadron and not run out of ammo.