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Help and Support Forums => Help and Training => Topic started by: bandit752 on May 05, 2006, 08:36:57 AM
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I am getting CH pro pedals! I have a x45 stick.
from wha tI read and understand here is that they will greatly
improve your aiming and flying abilities!
I am a terrible shot or too impatience!!
Thank you!
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Bandit, i've flown off and on for gosh it's been (gulp) 8 or 9 years. Though I've never owned pedals, I have read on the boards there's a learning curve. "Patience" might be the watchword.
Good luck with them, and when I get some, you can show me what's what.
hap
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Thanks for the input Hap!
I have read some people that totally would never be without them!
But, yet like yourself, and you probably have a top rating, dont use them!
I know using the x45 stick the rudder control is on the throttle. any which way you adjust the deadbands and calibrate the stick it still isnt a smooth rudder control.
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I now fly with the X52, and went for about 1 1/2 years with X45 before got pedals. The transition was easy for me, maybe becasue I didnt use rudder that much before, since the rocker input on the 45 was so VERY clunky and imprecise. (I cant use twisty sticks since I ALWAYS end up inputting rudder accidently when I fly --)
I think you'll love the CH pedals. Pay attention to the neutral point, becasue it is easy to "press on the floorboards" in combat. It takes a fine touch, but timed gentle inputs (which are much easier with pedals) can dramatically help concentrate your gunfire on a specific point when you do passing shots
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simaril hit it on the nose.being a pilot the pedals are much more natural for me than the twisty. be patient.hit the TA and play follow the leader with dweebs like myself.S~ brick31
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Thank you all for the input! I ordered the pedals at provantage for
$86.00
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lol Bandit. I are a dweeb and haven't flown much at all over the past couple of years. But thank-you nonetheless.
I too have heard the same reports you've heard, and I believe them to be true.
Looks like I'll be flying again soon. And if I stick with it, I'll prob join you as a proud rudder pedal owner.
hap
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Yep peds are the best option - I always hated the twisty when I am pushing or pulling to one of the corners and need to twist in some rudder. Was always hard to do. Your wrists will thank you. Make sure you set the Dead band and damp for your tastes so that as sim pointed out, your not holding rudder just because of how you are resting your feet.
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I went though this pedal learning curve , it's a ***** IMO , after being a fair shot to being not able to hit much .
This learning tip worked for me .
Use the AH drones ,
Get the vertical postion right first , the one u use with your joystick .
THEN move your rudder over to lead the drone . After a few k hours you will be doing snap shots just like that :)
Pedals when you diving are really nice , just stomp in full rudder and dive that spit or P38 for the deck and not lock up your elev control , easeily done with peds .
Gl and don't give up , it gets better alot better with time
Cheers
Spro
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A good exercise when you get them is spending a fair amount of seat time in attack mode straffing vehicles, ack, small objects, ect. You can really use them to make minor adjustments to line up on the target, and it helps develop your (lol) foot-eye cooridination.
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The number 1 thing to remember when flying with your CH Pedals is...
TAKE YOUR SHOES OFF.
Socks or bare feet and you can really finesse 'em. Shoes make them just as clunky as anything else... but a bare toe can really hurt people...
I also recommend flying in pajamas, but thats just me... Everyone who owns CH pedals knows you fly barefoot.
I hope you got the Pro Pedals, I don't know if they still make the standard pedals, but the Pro's are far superior in every way.
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Originally posted by Kurt
The number 1 thing to remember when flying with your CH Pedals is...
TAKE YOUR SHOES OFF.
Excellent advice.... I always fly in socks because you have a much better feel for the pedals.
My regards,
Widewing
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Originally posted by Kurt
The number 1 thing to remember when flying with your CH Pedals is...
TAKE YOUR SHOES OFF.
It just occured to me that it's gonna get mightly stinky in that conference room at the Con....
My regards,
Widewing
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Hey Murdr, how do you have your pedals set? Mine are set like this....
(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/865_1146924059_ahss15.jpg)
but I get a bit of a "snapping" action. Its not very smooth and makes those rudder gun passes a real pain. I allways thought it was due to me using old analog pedals that it wasn't very smooth, but if ya got a few tips I'm willing to give them a try :)
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(http://479th.jasminemarie.com/images/rudder.jpg)
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that is the mostest bestest advice ever.i completly forgot about that.BAREFEET OR SOCKS>>>>IMPERATIVE>>>>>pajamas advised but not neccesary.S~ brick31
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Murdr: Hold on, I need to get in proper flying attire.
(duel partner): ??????
Murdr: Need to take shoes off for rudders
(duel partner): Oh ok, I wondered
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shoes or barefeet definitely. Went and bought some of those shoe inserts for $2.00, and laid them on the pedals..
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excellent,btw used your trackir profile speed.muchas gracias mi amigo nuevo.S~ brick31
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Thanks Murdr, tried it tonight, much smoother.
Now if you have a trick to cure my horrible aim :D
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Originally posted by Kurt
The number 1 thing to remember when flying with your CH Pedals is...
TAKE YOUR SHOES OFF.
Socks or bare feet and you can really finesse 'em. Shoes make them just as clunky as anything else... but a bare toe can really hurt people...
I also recommend flying in pajamas, but thats just me... Everyone who owns CH pedals knows you fly barefoot.
I hope you got the Pro Pedals, I don't know if they still make the standard pedals, but the Pro's are far superior in every way.
Hmm, have used CH pedals for many years, always wore shoes with no problem. I don't think when I'm using the pedals, just do, if that makes sense. Right now I'm having trouble getting AH to recognize my pedals, but once I do I'll be showing up as an easy target for you all.
Cya in 'da skies.
Haukeye
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Originally posted by Murdr
(http://479th.jasminemarie.com/images/rudder.jpg)
thats about were mine run at too .. my 0 is alittle lower and my dead/dampaning are up about a 1/4 inch higher
that middle of the road curve seam to give me the smoothest partial rudder responces .
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yeah murdr, i changed to yours as well..much better.thanks for sharing. now after you help fugitives aim,save some for me .i need it more than he does.:lol :aok
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meant to say socks, or barefeet. lol
...and then the shoe insert thing comes next.
np coba. and in my best spanish accent.. chew got it mang.:aok
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Fly NAKED!!!!!!!! You get the best feel of all your controls....:aok
On a serious note....flying with the CH pedals was a great improvement! I was flying with rudder on my twisty FF2 stick and was always actually flying with rudder inputs. When I got used to flying with the pedals this went away. HIGHLY RECOMMENDED you will love them.
I too fly in socks or bare feet.....much better than with shoes!
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I posted this somewhere else on the forum but will repost it here as well.
I'm using the X52 Saitek.
I turned off the twisty stick and mapped the rudders to the throttle control.
Throttle is now mapped to the thumb slide.
This works great so far. You get very fine rudder control and don't sacrifice your ability to reach any important hat or switch/button on the X52. Your hand is always in positon no matter where the rudder is set. No more unintended twisty stick rudder moves. Great for ground vehicles as well.
I would like to know if any other X52 users could try it and give some feedback. I haven't tried to refine it yet. I get great response from the P38 but wicked quick rolls from a 190 (might need some adjustment for the best of both worlds).
pick
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I have a microsoft force feedback 2 and like the twist stick,Dont think I would like the pedals but would like to try them some day.
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I just made the twisty to pedal switch after roughly 10 years of twisty . It is one of the most frustrating things ive ever had to do @#$@#$@ . I'm just now starting to get used to them (2 months) . I'm glad that i did it , but there were nights i would have liked to see these pedals put threw a wood chipper .
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Originally posted by p38ah
I posted this somewhere else on the forum but will repost it here as well.
I'm using the X52 Saitek.
I turned off the twisty stick and mapped the rudders to the throttle control.
Throttle is now mapped to the thumb slide.
This works great so far. You get very fine rudder control and don't sacrifice your ability to reach any important hat or switch/button on the X52. Your hand is always in positon no matter where the rudder is set. No more unintended twisty stick rudder moves. Great for ground vehicles as well.
I would like to know if any other X52 users could try it and give some feedback. I haven't tried to refine it yet. I get great response from the P38 but wicked quick rolls from a 190 (might need some adjustment for the best of both worlds).
pick
Did you reassign the rudder to the throttle slider with the Saitek SST software or the AH joystick setup?
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I used the AH joystick map
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Originally posted by The Fugitive
Thanks Murdr, tried it tonight, much smoother.
Now if you have a trick to cure my horrible aim :D
Try typing ".target 500", the 500 being the distance the target will be.. 200, 400, 1000 whatever. A floating target will avail itself for your aiming pleasure.