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Title: attacking bombers 101
Post by: storch on May 06, 2006, 06:15:18 AM
if any players want a tutorial on attacking buffs please respond.  if enough people respond members of JG54 will host a session in either the TA or the DA on Sunday 5/7/06 beginning at 2000 EST.  with proper techinque even the mighty B17s and B26s die while you fly away usually unharmed.
Title: attacking bombers 101
Post by: LEDPIG on May 06, 2006, 08:03:43 AM
I definately have to see this!:aok
Title: attacking bombers 101
Post by: VWE on May 06, 2006, 10:12:20 AM
ZG-1 buff hunters... we used to do it all the time in the MA. Fun stuff...
Title: Re: attacking bombers 101
Post by: TheBug on May 06, 2006, 11:21:41 AM
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Originally posted by storch
if any players want a tutorial on attacking buffs please respond.  if enough people respond members of JG54 will host a session in either the TA or the DA on Sunday 5/7/06 beginning at 2000 EST.  with proper techinque even the mighty B17s and B26s die while you fly away usually unharmed.



Wow a very generous offer Storch, I it.   Always for fostering community.  Glad to see you taking your sig to heart. :)
Title: attacking bombers 101
Post by: Platano on May 06, 2006, 11:34:58 AM
Sure I'd like to see.... seems like my slashing attack passes seems to have little afect and take too long to Do any real damage when theres escorts around making nusense of themselves..
Title: attacking bombers 101
Post by: croduh on May 06, 2006, 11:50:05 AM
Any chance you could set it up for European players some day?:)
Title: attacking bombers 101
Post by: storch on May 06, 2006, 11:57:43 AM
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Originally posted by duh
Any chance you could set it up for European players some day?:)
lately I've been working insane hours but once the demand for my trade services return to normal levels I'll be logged on for my usual 100 hours per month.  having said that anytime you see me on just ask I'm happy to oblige.
Title: attacking bombers 101
Post by: storch on May 06, 2006, 12:00:10 PM
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Originally posted by Platano
Sure I'd like to see.... seems like my slashing attack passes seems to have little afect and take too long to Do any real damage when theres escorts around making nusense of themselves..
dude for a dominican/puerto rican you seem to have poor rythym.  it's kind of like dancing, that comes pretty natural to us.  next time I'm on just ask me you are almost there from what I see. :D
Title: attacking bombers 101
Post by: storch on May 06, 2006, 12:01:45 PM
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Originally posted by VWE
ZG-1 buff hunters... we used to do it all the time in the MA. Fun stuff...
hello there hauptmann when are you returning?
Title: attacking bombers 101
Post by: VWE on May 06, 2006, 01:29:46 PM
As soon as I get my move to Hawaii completed... couple o months, I'll be back... :aok
Title: attacking bombers 101
Post by: Platano on May 06, 2006, 03:53:23 PM
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Originally posted by storch
dude for a dominican/puerto rican you seem to have poor rythym.  it's kind of like dancing, that comes pretty natural to us.  next time I'm on just ask me you are almost there from what I see. :D



:rofl :lol :rofl :lol :rofl

Very true about the dancin part
Title: attacking bombers 101
Post by: Pooface on May 06, 2006, 05:20:23 PM
ahh, killing buffs isnt too hard, you just never attack from behind. always attack from above and with lots of speed, high frontal attacks are best, aim for the cockpit or wing roots :)
Title: attacking bombers 101
Post by: aztec on May 07, 2006, 05:36:28 AM
Thx Storch..I surely wouldn't mind some instruction on this, unfortunately I won't be available. Can you film some of it? , az
Title: attacking bombers 101
Post by: aztec on May 07, 2006, 05:46:31 AM
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Originally posted by Pooface
ahh, killing buffs isnt too hard, you just never attack from behind. always attack from above and with lots of speed, high frontal attacks are best, aim for the cockpit or wing roots :)


I the ease of your success in killing buffs POO, but surely you can see the value of hands on instruction for us noobs and dweebs rather than a quick two or three  line description. Once again Sir.
Title: attacking bombers 101
Post by: Pooface on May 07, 2006, 01:38:04 PM
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Originally posted by aztec
I the ease of your success in killing buffs POO, but surely you can see the value of hands on instruction for us noobs and dweebs rather than a quick two or three  line description. Once again Sir.



of course, just some quick tips :)


if you see me online, just holler and maybe i can help a little more;)
Title: attacking bombers 101
Post by: Target2 on May 11, 2006, 11:38:13 AM
Poo or Storch, a written tutorial or vid of bomber attack method would be useful. I agree with what you said Poo. I think 10 - 2 O'clock high seems to work. I used that method yesterday and got 3 B24's in 3 passes (a first for me). Anyway, for those who cannot get into the TA when demo's are going on, something posted here would be a great help.
Title: attacking bombers 101
Post by: Treize69 on May 11, 2006, 01:04:27 PM
(http://grupul7vanatoare.homestead.com/VerticalRape.jpg)
(http://grupul7vanatoare.homestead.com/Headon_run_2.jpg)
(http://grupul7vanatoare.homestead.com/Headon_run_1.jpg)

The long distance 6-shot works too if you can get enough grouping to start a fire or take out the gunners un a hurry. :)
(http://grupul7vanatoare.homestead.com/Buff_Kill_1.jpg)
(http://grupul7vanatoare.homestead.com/Buff_Kill_2.jpg)
(http://grupul7vanatoare.homestead.com/Buff_Kill_3.jpg)

And the classic "roller coaster" if you have enough speed and can come in from an angle.
(http://grupul7vanatoare.homestead.com/In2TheBreach.jpg)
(http://grupul7vanatoare.homestead.com/RammerJagen_op_800x640.jpg)
Title: attacking bombers 101
Post by: Pooface on May 11, 2006, 01:13:39 PM
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Originally posted by Target2
Poo or Storch, a written tutorial or vid of bomber attack method would be useful. I agree with what you said Poo. I think 10 - 2 O'clock high seems to work. I used that method yesterday and got 3 B24's in 3 passes (a first for me). Anyway, for those who cannot get into the TA when demo's are going on, something posted here would be a great help.



ok, well i guess i could do something some time :)

for now, a quick tip list:

always attack with speed. the faster you go the more kinetic energy your rounds have = less rounds needed, and it also means that they have a shorter time to bring their gunners to bear and shoot you down. try to attack from high, it reduces the effect of their bullets and increases yours.

attacking from the high forward position is the best way to attack a bomber, especially if you have big guns, as in the 109/190 series. try to aim for the cockpit, it's a one hit kill. try to concentrate hits on a certain part of the plane, wing roots being best.

the most important thing is practise, just get used to attacking bombers with slashing attacks instead of shooting from behind. like treize says, a 'roller coaster' works well if you need to kill lots of bombers in one pass, because you keep speed and you move about a lot, making it hard for the gunners to hit you.

most important thing is speed. never attack bombers if you dont have a big speed advantage. this is the reason its best to attack buffs from above. NEVER attack buffs from the 6, you'll only survive if they're total noobs. try not to come from below either, except if you have a lot of energy.

target, if you want help, just holler, give me a time that you're online and i'll come practise with you:aok
Title: attacking bombers 101
Post by: Treize69 on May 11, 2006, 01:18:41 PM
That botome head-on shot (the one coming in from high 11 o'clock), I took out the pilot on the lead buff of the outside box (you can see the cannon shell about to impact) with about a 1/2 second burst. Make your shots count, especially if they have escorts.
Title: attacking bombers 101
Post by: E25280 on May 11, 2006, 02:27:31 PM
White, go back to your old avatar -- that one is just freaking me out.  :huh :confused: :huh
Title: attacking bombers 101
Post by: Treize69 on May 11, 2006, 04:17:48 PM
Why, whats wrong with her? :confused: :huh
Title: attacking bombers 101
Post by: E25280 on May 11, 2006, 05:23:27 PM
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Originally posted by Treize69
Why, whats wrong with her? :confused: :huh
Are you an "original" Battlestar Galactica fan or something?
Title: attacking bombers 101
Post by: Treize69 on May 11, 2006, 05:54:00 PM
Never seen either one, not a sci-fi fan.
Title: attacking bombers 101
Post by: Platano on May 12, 2006, 07:34:00 AM
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Originally posted by E25280
White, go back to your old avatar -- that one is just freaking me out.  :huh :confused: :huh



Yes i was just gonna say that...She keeps staring at me and its freaking me out....It's like I cant read the Forums withough her staring at me...hehe
Title: attacking bombers 101
Post by: 68DevilM on May 12, 2006, 12:23:41 PM
i dont know , theres some preety serious buff gunners out there that leave me scratching my head as to how the hell they got thier guns on me......