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General Forums => Custom Skins => Topic started by: Sakai on May 08, 2006, 07:42:09 AM
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Well, I am trying desperately to learn skinning with Corel Draw but it is not going well.
I am working out of Chris Dunning's book on the Italian rides (thought I'd make a standard Ju87 Italian markings first) and am wondering two things:
Anyone ever used Corel? Do I need to get a newer iteration (v.10 here)?
Is anyone else interested in any of the schemes or data from that text?
Sakai
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IMO, Dunning's and Osprey's books' skins are not very good and in many cases unhistorical.
Check my post about 205 camos below. Many of those skins are outstanding and the source book is *very* good. If you want to find some good pre-1943 camos sources I have to check when at home.
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Originally posted by gatt
IMO, Dunning's and Osprey's books' skins are not very good and in many cases unhistorical.
Check my post about 205 camos below. Many of those skins are outstanding and the source book is *very* good. If you want to find some good pre-1943 camos sources I have to check when at home.
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Thanks mate.
Dunning indicates the colors used in his sections on each unit, are those inaccurate as well or do they differ from the color plates?
Thanks again.
Sakai
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Salute Sakai,
I used to use Corel Draw many moons ago in the print industry. IIRC, Draw is a vector based program, not raster based like Photoshop. Not to sound insulting if you know this. The difference between the two (raster vs vector):
Raster deals with pixels. The more you magnify that pixel, the more fuzzy it becomes. This is what you want for skinning as you are able to blur, smudge, and a miriad of other effects to your paint schemes.
Vector deals with mathmatical points. The more you magnify a vector image, the crisper the image becomes. The drawback is that you cannot blur, smudge, ect your image. It will go straight from one color to the next color border. No fancy effects that can be applied.
Let me try to give you a visual example. Lets say you are painting a very sexy FW190a8. Typical LF camo scheme that has that Morey effect of where the upper and lower paint schemes meet and you have color overlap. In a raster program you can bleed the colors together and overlap them on different layers. In a vector program you cannot get the same subtle overlap. It will go straight from one color to the second color.
Im not trying to sound confusing (Im home sick today so I should've waited to post this on a more coherent day.) :)
Anyway. I would suggest using something other than Draw. If you are unable to get hold of Paint Shop Pro or Photoshop, try Gimp. It is a free download. Not as much control or all the bells and whistles of photoshop, but enough to do a good looking skin.
My .02 cents :)
ReDhAwK
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Originally posted by Sakai
Thanks mate.
Dunning indicates the colors used in his sections on each unit, are those inaccurate as well or do they differ from the color plates?
Thanks again.
Sakai
Sakai, sorry for the delay. Well, as far as italian a/c are concerned I was only judging profiles drawing quality of Dunning's work and real inaccuracies of Osprey's color schemes. In the latter book even some of the most famous fighter paint schemes (like Lt E.Annoni's C202) is plain wrong.
Better are "Ali d'Italia" series (dont forget also their Mini Series) and the last book of Ferdinando D'Amico (regarding 1943-45).
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Originally posted by Lord ReDhAwK
Salute Sakai,
I used to use Corel Draw many moons ago in the print industry. IIRC, Draw is a vector based program, not raster based like Photoshop. Not to sound insulting if you know this. The difference between the two (raster vs vector):
ReDhAwK
Outstanding help and advice, thanks mate. That's exactly what I needed to know.
Sakai
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You're welcome Sir. Good'Luck :aok
ReDhAwK