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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: helldiver on May 09, 2006, 05:54:29 PM
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will we start into the korean or nam?
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:huh
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Vietnam wasn't a war, it was a "police action". War was never declared.
WW2 was the last and only honourable war (ie. fought for the right reasons). It was also a World War, as an Englishman, I have no interest in the two conflicts you have mentioned and as the AH community is global, interest would I feel be low.
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That's funny. I was thinking to myself just today...."I wonder if HTC is thinking about other game ideas?" A WWI flight sim would be perfect for the "purists" who only want to furball & not be bothered by anything else like buffs dropping hangars.
Strange though...Vietnam never came to mind...not a whole lot of dogfighting. On the other hand a Korea era sim could be cool.
WW2 was the last and only honourable war
You've got to be kidding me. There is no honor in war, only the ones who survived & the ones who didn't.
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WWI, that would be cool. Korea, they would only really have to add the F-86 and MiG-15 to impliment.
Vietnam- why??? Jets, SAMs, A2A missiles, refueling, airborne radar, choppers... shudder... no thank you.
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:noid
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tinman...I disagree...Seeing as HTC is an American corporation with a majority of American players I think support for a korea/vietnam arena would be extremely high...But I see where you are coming from. I would have absolutely no interest in a "falkland islands" campaign =)
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Originally posted by TinmanX
WW2 was the last and only honourable war (ie. fought for the right reasons). It was also a World War, as an Englishman, I have no interest in the two conflicts you have mentioned and as the AH community is global, interest would I feel be low.
Plenty of Brits in Korea. As a matter of fact, the British Royal Marines 41st Royal Marine Commando Battalion attatched to the 1st MarDiv in 10th Corp was the only unit to perform to the same level as (and in some respects above) the US Marine units. Lieutenant Colonel Douglas Drysdale was CO of 41 Commado, and was an extremely capable leader, and the US Marines were very happy to have him and his men there.
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JETS = BORING
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i would rather HTC concentrate on getting what we have more fun than try make new games..
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Originally posted by TinmanX
Vietnam wasn't a war, it was a "police action". War was never declared.
WW2 was the last and only honourable war (ie. fought for the right reasons). It was also a World War, as an Englishman, I have no interest in the two conflicts you have mentioned and as the AH community is global, interest would I feel be low.
Tell that to the thousands of Vietnamese, Americans, French, and various others who died there over a 30 year period. I honestly dont think it was a place we should have been, but saying it wasnt a real war is just nitpicking the details. I think it was real enough for everyone who fought there.
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Dude, they aint my details and I mean no disrespect to anyone who fought there, but neither the Korean nor Vietnam conflicts were declared "Wars".
Anyway, we're sliding away from the subject and it's entirely my fault for bringing up politics, I apologise for any offence.
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HT tried a WW1 game at ICI. Didn't do all that well. And with the lower rates of closure it'd just be a slo-mo-HO-fest.
Korean era jets would be an excercise in frustration for too many people.
Personally I think the entire 1939-1941 part of the war could be brought up a notch - were it not for the fact that the MA is so focused on the late war uber rides. Get some I-16's and Ki-43's twirling about.
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WWII is enough era for 3 games (early - mid- late).
Bozon
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Originally posted by TinmanX
Dude, they aint my details and I mean no disrespect to anyone who fought there, but neither the Korean nor Vietnam conflicts were declared "Wars".
Anyway, we're sliding away from the subject and it's entirely my fault for bringing up politics, I apologise for any offence.
So you are saying that America had no right to stop the communist from converting the south? Dictatorship is good?
Actually, don't answer that. Instead answer this: Are you saying that no country declared war during Vietnam or Korea? Samsung is in south korea, imagine if we never went to Korea.
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The war NEVER ends. Just think of Groundhog Day :D
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Originally posted by Max
The war NEVER ends. Just think of Groundhog Day :D
AMEN BROTHA! couldnt have said it better
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French IndoChina war would be a good sidebar.
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What is your definition of an "honorable" war? Wars are ugly and brutal.
There are SOME wars, however that HAD to be fought, and if that's the definition you use of "honorable" you're doing a great disservice to the men who fought the American War for Independence and Civil War, and those who decided to stand up to Napoleon and stop HIS bid for global domination, (including the English) or the Greeks during the Persian Wars who if THEY had fallen, Western Civilization as we know it now very likely would never have existed.
I'll give you that WWII WAS the LAST war of that type, but it sure as hell wasn't the ONLY one.
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Originally posted by cav58d
tinman...I disagree...Seeing as HTC is an American corporation with a majority of American players I think support for a korea/vietnam arena would be extremely high...But I see where you are coming from. I would have absolutely no interest in a "falkland islands" campaign =)
:aok
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But I see where you are coming from. I would have absolutely no interest in a "falkland islands" campaign =)
LOLH
Originally posted by Max
The war NEVER ends. Just think of Groundhog Day
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AMEN BROTHA! couldnt have said it better
But I thought you were a Win the War Hero like the rest????
confused
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Originally posted by mars01
LOLH
But I thought you were a Win the War Hero like the rest????
confused
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:O Nope...I simply try to lose as painlessly as possible.
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LOL MAX,
That wasn't for you that was for CAV58, in regards to his win the war threads. :D
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I'm always so confused.:cry
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lisen vietnam was a real war the thing is that those STUPID FAT HEADS in congress sat on there buts trying to controll it their way instead of doing it the right way and leting the military fight it the right way.:furious :noid :furious :noid :furious :noid:furious :noid :furious
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Originally posted by BigR
JETS = BORING
Lol i think that a little too i like Props best really.
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Hey in the Movie groundhog day i forget, did that guy ever try stayin up all night?....
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WWI.
(http://www.galleryone.com/images/wootton/wootton_-_knights_of_the_sky.JPG)
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Originally posted by bagrat
Hey in the Movie groundhog day i forget, did that guy ever try stayin up all night?....
I dont think so. I wonder why he didnt get the lotto numbers either?
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Originally posted by bagrat
Hey in the Movie groundhog day i forget, did that guy ever try stayin up all night?....
Yes, yes he did.
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He did try to stay up all night.
But he fell asleep by accident.
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There were only three good wars
the american revolution
WW 2
The star wars trilogy
Bart Simpson
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Originally posted by DoKGonZo
HT tried a WW1 game at ICI. Didn't do all that well. And with the lower rates of closure it'd just be a slo-mo-HO-fest.
Korean era jets would be an excercise in frustration for too many people.
Personally I think the entire 1939-1941 part of the war could be brought up a notch - were it not for the fact that the MA is so focused on the late war uber rides. Get some I-16's and Ki-43's twirling about.
Hmm Doc I thought DoA was a GREAT WWI sim and so do most of the WWI grogs who flew RB and then moved to DoA. I always thought that Dale was prevented from recreating it due to some non-compete with WildBill?
I for one would welcome a WWI area on the scale and type of DoA it was great.
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Originally posted by Boxboy
Hmm Doc I thought DoA was a GREAT WWI sim and so do most of the WWI grogs who flew RB and then moved to DoA. I always thought that Dale was prevented from recreating it due to some non-compete with WildBill?
I for one would welcome a WWI area on the scale and type of DoA it was great.
DoA just never got critical mass of players - at least that was my recollection. There was no failure in the technology of the game, it's just an even more narrow niche than WW2 planes is.
Is WildBill still in the games biz? Lordy.
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Not sure, WB went under as you know and also not sure as to how binding a non-compete is when the object of the non-compete is defunct?
Guess we need a shark to answer that one :)
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Originally posted by helldiver
will we start into the korean or nam?
you know this game does not end dont you:noid :noid :noid :noid :noid :noid :noid :noid :noid
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well this war will eventually end.so whats next?well?
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Originally posted by helldiver
well this war will eventually end.so whats next?well?
EA buying AH and killing it.
:aok
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i meant in terms of witch wars next?
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None.. Now go spam the IL2 boards.
Bronk
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A witch??? BURN IT!#!#!:noid
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Originally posted by helldiver
i meant in terms of witch wars next?
Troll extraordinaire. There isn't a human being on earth that is smart enough to breathe without consciously thinking about it that could possibly think this is an actual war that is going to end & a different war begin.
It's the people who do this sort of thing for fun that piss me off. Loser.
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I'M SEREISE!:noid :noid :furious :furious
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I'm SUPER CERIAL and no one believes me!@!#@:cry :lol
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Originally posted by SuperDud
I'm SUPER CERIAL and no one believes me!@!#@:cry :lol
I almost fell off my chair. When I saw that episode it had the same affect on me.
:noid "I invented the internet!":cool: ....."I'm super SUPER CERIAL!"
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There has ever only been ONE good air war... there will never be another.
Korea... two types duking it out... SUCKS AW tried it... Never more than 10 people in the arena.
Vietnam... 3 types and a SAM. 'worst air war EVAR'
WWI? haha, sure. Sounds neat when people talk about it... but flying at 75mph in 90HP planes throwing rocks really sucks... Anyone who has ever played one will tell you. AW tried this too... Never more than 10 people in the arena.
Iraq? haha ouch... my pancreas! One airforce... big fun.
Face it kids... There was ONE good air war. And while all future combat will be won by application of air power, the odds of another great air war are about 1 in 50 billion.
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Originally posted by mars01
LOLH
But I thought you were a Win the War Hero like the rest????
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Im all about winning the war....Im just saying that playing AH as of recent has become like Ground Hog Day
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Originally posted by helldiver
lisen vietnam was a real war the thing is that those STUPID FAT HEADS in congress sat on there buts trying to controll it their way instead of doing it the right way and leting the military fight it the right way.:furious :noid :furious :noid :furious :noid:furious :noid :furious
Helldiver--- U r absolutely hilarious! haha...excessive Smilies:aok
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WWI? haha, sure. Sounds neat when people talk about it... but flying at 75mph in 90HP planes throwing rocks really sucks... Anyone who has ever played one will tell you.
I have played WWI sims over the years & I liked them. It may not draw the crowd that the more glamorous "cadillac of the sky" mustang draws, but all the basic principles are the same.
If everyone is in 75mph planes & firing like weapons; you know, as long as the planes all have interupter gears (the major advancement of WWI air combat), it all boils down to pilot skill & you don't really notice the slower speeds & slower roll & climb rates etc. at least I never paid attention to it. I also never played a WWI sim in the style of AH...so my view is skewed towards the AI games.
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Originally posted by cav58d
tinman...I disagree...Seeing as HTC is an American corporation with a majority of American players I think support for a korea/vietnam arena would be extremely high...But I see where you are coming from. I would have absolutely no interest in a "falkland islands" campaign =)
I don't know why people keep asking for something like this when HiTech has stated many times previously that he is not going to make a WWI, Korea or Vietnam flight sim.
ack-ack
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WW1 done well would be fine, its just getting a D- in history seems the norm these days and nobody is interested in it because they don't know jack s*** about it.
Principals are the same, and there were a lot of very interesting combat a/c 1916-1918.
No, its not everybodys cup of tea, but then some like jet sims and don't like AH too. They are out there.
...anyways, been debated before many times. I will leave it there.
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Korea and Vietnam werent so different from World War II, as far as air to air combat went. There were still massive dogfights in each. In fact, towards the end of the Vietnam War, the dogfights between F4s and Mig17s/21s became more and more intense.