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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: wrongwayric on May 10, 2006, 08:46:45 AM
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I just came from a battle for a base, we were in panzers and assorted planes. Pretty good fight. We decided, ok one big push! Up what you want, 3 guys up perk planes, myself and another up tigers. Funny when we up the tigers suddenly the senior members who had been online before (or do you call them low rankers) and at other bases, all bail and come to do nothing but kill the perk rides. I.E. temp, f4u1c, 2 tigers. Then when we come back in standard non perk planes they have landed their much valued perk kills and fled. WOW such studs!!! Maybe it's time to say, hey, if you've played this long and are that good, maybe the guy that kills YOU should get 3 to 6 times the amount of a normal kill! No matter if your upping in regular mission or not! If your score is that great and all you want to hunt is perk rides, then you should be able to put your skill up. I donn't know but i think the perk/low ranker concept is obsolete, maybe we need to have a system were if you shoot down a lesser plane you get nothing, an equal plane 1, and a perk plane 5. Is that what it would take to get the perk only killers to back off and let the rest of us enjoy? Probably not. Guess we must police our own and make a list of people who do this and start hunting them down, maybe to the point were they cann't up without 20-30 people gang shooting them. DRIVE BY SHOOTING SLAYS ACE/SENIOR member!!! what a headline
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how bout the redsox yankees game last night?-that was awesome
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As a perpetual high ranker, I am in favor of additional perk points for taking out "low rankers" whose skill far exceeds my own.
-- Todd/Leviathn
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:huh :huh :huh
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sounds like someone shouldn't be upping
perk rides if its gonna cause such discontent
when u loose it.
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Maybe they came because someone upped something other than spit16/La7/N1k, just for the variety?
Now, more seriously. Rolling a "rare" planes mission attracts attention. Even if you roll 10 player Hurrican 1 or P40 this will bring a lot of opposition just because it is different and interesting. Veteran players are eager for such "out of the ordinary" events and will be flocking. Don't take it personally. It has little to do with the perk value as most of them can fly 262 exclusively for a year, crash every ride, and still have perks to spare.
I love these events - both as a participant and as opposition. Rolling themed missions is just that much more interesting than 110s with La7 escorts. In the old days I had set up some missions with silly themes like: "Only green planes" (before we had skins) or "only twin engines" or "BoB planes".
btw, the best place to fly a perk ride is where you are surrounded by other perk rides - that way you are not singled out in the crowd with your "kill me" icon tag.
Bozon
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its the plane silly.................. not the pilot!:cool:
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Time to bring back Rude's "Whine of the Week" award. Some of the threads these days r teh suk. :rolleyes:
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The guys who have moved past vet into, well, ace status have a harder time finding a challenge, to be honest. (This does NOT apply to me at all, BTW...I figure I'm just becoming a vet about now.)
Guys like Lev and Morph can handle 1v6 without stress, just some adrenaline, which is why they love the furball.
Since furballs are hard to find and harder to maintain, dont you think that pitting a c205 against a tempest would be an attractive challenge for them? Dont be surprised; they're not after perks because they can earn em faster than they spend em. They're usually not after "attaboys" because many have moved apst the need to prove anything.
Your mission just gave them (whoever they were) a chance to have soem fun and test themselves against a challenge
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Let me get this straight. You upped perk rides and got owned?
What`s wrong with this picture? Did you expect them to just fly around till you shot them down in your perk rides or what? I don`t get it.
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:confused: So you were killed by better guys trying to save a base from tigers,typhs,so on
to the guys that killed there fun
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Russian judge 3.5
Czech judge 3.75
USA judge 4.25
Canada judge 4.0
Japan judge 5.25
Avg score after tossing the highest and lowest scores is............. 4.0
NEXT!
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:rofl :D :rofl
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Originally posted by wrongwayric
I just came from a battle for a base, we were in panzers and assorted planes. Pretty good fight. We decided, ok one big push! Up what you want, 3 guys up perk planes, myself and another up tigers. Funny when we up the tigers suddenly the senior members who had been online before (or do you call them low rankers) and at other bases, all bail and come to do nothing but kill the perk rides. I.E. temp, f4u1c, 2 tigers. Then when we come back in standard non perk planes they have landed their much valued perk kills and fled. WOW such studs!!! Maybe it's time to say, hey, if you've played this long and are that good, maybe the guy that kills YOU should get 3 to 6 times the amount of a normal kill! No matter if your upping in regular mission or not! If your score is that great and all you want to hunt is perk rides, then you should be able to put your skill up. I donn't know but i think the perk/low ranker concept is obsolete, maybe we need to have a system were if you shoot down a lesser plane you get nothing, an equal plane 1, and a perk plane 5. Is that what it would take to get the perk only killers to back off and let the rest of us enjoy? Probably not. Guess we must police our own and make a list of people who do this and start hunting them down, maybe to the point were they cann't up without 20-30 people gang shooting them. DRIVE BY SHOOTING SLAYS ACE/SENIOR member!!! what a headline
Connecting skill with score is ... umm ... foolish at best.
If the "vets" pwned you in your perk planes, using whatever plane they had, you can surely bet that they would then pwn you again if you returned in lesser planes.
They probably landed cause there was no more targets around and weren't sure if you were gonna return.
I hardly believe that they ... landed their much valued perk kills and fled
I gotta say WTFG :aok ... for coming back to give them a fight again ... we need more people like that.
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hub and I ran tanks onto a field and killed ord and ack..we killed a WOT member and his whole squad Immediately showed up and launched 4 tigers and a handful of panzers against us..this is unfair..if your such badazzes you should let us kill you one at a time
:mad:
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Thanks jaxxo, your the only one that got it. My little rant was based on a fight i witnessed not one i was directly involved in, however, i knew i would get the same old B.S. stand up for the game line from senior members that we always seem to get here. If it's flawed they exploit it, then ridicule anyone who try's to offer a solution. Wonder when A.H. is going to just put a rebel flag up as launch window, as the good ole boy attitude is alive and well here. (inbreeeeeddddderrrrss)
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And as to the actual subject header....
Reasonable on the surface, but bad idea overall.
If all fights were 1v1, yeah, perk multiplier wouild be good, kinda like a handicap in golf or a "rating" number in chess.
But what about this:
I'm coming into a fight, thats layered between 5k and the deck. Below me I see a friendly (think it was even a squaddie) getting cornered by a P47, right on the water just off the enemy base. I jump in, calling out to my bud, but dont get there in time and see the friendly blow up. I belatedly close the gap, fire away, and as I pull up I find that I've killed YUCCA.
YUCCA is a far, far better pilot than I am. 1v1 there wouldnt even be a fight, it woudl be a schooling. I didnt deliberately cherry him, I was doing the team thing, but I was almost embarassed to have killed him. Did I earn any bonus perks for killing him? Did I outfly him? No way on either count.
Now add the problem perk planes have, of getting swarmed because they stand out. How would it be to be hunted while you're trying to get a good fight? To have 3 friendlies on the deck, and find the 1 attacker ALWAYS goes for you because you are the Vet?
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Originally posted by wrongwayric
Thanks jaxxo, your the only one that got it. My little rant was based on a fight i witnessed not one i was directly involved in, however, i knew i would get the same old B.S. stand up for the game line from senior members that we always seem to get here. If it's flawed they exploit it, then ridicule anyone who try's to offer a solution. Wonder when A.H. is going to just put a rebel flag up as launch window, as the good ole boy attitude is alive and well here. (inbreeeeeddddderrrrss)
:rofl :rofl :rofl
Actually thanking Jaxxo for making fun of him . Got to luv it.
Bronk
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Simaril, most vets are not looking for a challenge. They will fly the uber planes like n1ks, spitfires, hurris and tempests. They like to combine good skills with good planes. They don't like dying as much as any noob. People that fly jugs, 109s, 190s, or planes that suck at turning and push them past their limit in furballs are the ones looking for challenges. You don't even need to be good or a vet to do that.
Originally posted by Simaril
The guys who have moved past vet into, well, ace status have a harder time finding a challenge, to be honest. (This does NOT apply to me at all, BTW...I figure I'm just becoming a vet about now.)
Guys like Lev and Morph can handle 1v6 without stress, just some adrenaline, which is why they love the furball.
Since furballs are hard to find and harder to maintain, dont you think that pitting a c205 against a tempest would be an attractive challenge for them? Dont be surprised; they're not after perks because they can earn em faster than they spend em. They're usually not after "attaboys" because many have moved apst the need to prove anything.
Your mission just gave them (whoever they were) a chance to have soem fun and test themselves against a challenge
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Originally posted by Kermit de frog
Simaril, most vets are not looking for a challenge. They will fly the uber planes like n1ks, spitfires, hurris and tempests. They like to combine good skills with good planes. They don't like dying as much as any noob. People that fly jugs, 109s, 190s, or planes that suck at turning and push them past their limit in furballs are the ones looking for challenges. You don't even need to be good or a vet to do that.
you forgot Tiffi's :D
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now dont you feel foolish getting owned in them there perk rides then whining on the bb about it.
[SIZE=10]NO SOUP FOR YOU!![/SIZE]
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Kermit thinks he's good. :aok
-- Todd/Leviathn
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When I see a perk icon, the first thing that pops into my head is, "there's a timid weenie who must be killed as soon as possible."
It has nothing to do with anything, except my dislike of timid weenies in perk rides.
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Originally posted by wrongwayric
I love Bob the Builder
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Originally posted by wrongwayric
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If it's flawed they exploit it, then ridicule anyone who try's to offer a solution. Wonder when A.H. is going to just put a rebel flag up as launch window, as the good ole boy attitude is alive and well here. (inbreeeeeddddderrrrss)
OK, I'm a little confused...what flaw are you talking about? What exploit did you mean? Your opening rant was a bit hard to follow....All I saw was "the good players killed everybody and landed." Was there more to it that you didnt communicate well?
And judging by logical processes displayed, I'd wonder if the inbreeding (or the moonshine still) may have been on your side of the keyboard rather than on ours....
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Originally posted by Simaril
many have moved past the need to prove anything
:huh
hap
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snicker
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Originally posted by wrongwayric
I just came from a battle for a base, we were in panzers and assorted planes. Pretty good fight. We decided, ok one big push! Up what you want, 3 guys up perk planes, myself and another up tigers. Funny when we up the tigers suddenly the senior members who had been online before (or do you call them low rankers) and at other bases, all bail and come to do nothing but kill the perk rides. I.E. temp, f4u1c, 2 tigers. Then when we come back in standard non perk planes they have landed their much valued perk kills and fled. WOW such studs!!! Maybe it's time to say, hey, if you've played this long and are that good, maybe the guy that kills YOU should get 3 to 6 times the amount of a normal kill! No matter if your upping in regular mission or not! If your score is that great and all you want to hunt is perk rides, then you should be able to put your skill up. I donn't know but i think the perk/low ranker concept is obsolete, maybe we need to have a system were if you shoot down a lesser plane you get nothing, an equal plane 1, and a perk plane 5. Is that what it would take to get the perk only killers to back off and let the rest of us enjoy? Probably not. Guess we must police our own and make a list of people who do this and start hunting them down, maybe to the point were they cann't up without 20-30 people gang shooting them. DRIVE BY SHOOTING SLAYS ACE/SENIOR member!!! what a headline
I've got about 100,000 perk points I can part with if you need a few. Just whine..err I mean whistle.
ack-ack
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Well I hate to burst your delusional fantasy but...
You seem to think that killing perk rides is the way "vets" get perk points. It isnt. They get perk points by flying low ENY value a/c like Yaks, P-51B, MC205, 109G, Mossie, ect, and also from landing kills on a >regular basis<. Not from waiting for some "announcement" that somebody upped a F4U-1C from some base (big freaking deal).
Me262s usually get a special mention on country channel, thats it, and usually because they are so hard to catch, not because of what they are worth.
"suddenly the senior members who had been online before"
-I guess you have to blame somebody...
Sorry your battle didnt work out but you need to stop being paranoid about everything that doesnt go your way and dreaming up conspiracy theories to cover it.
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Originally posted by Kermit de frog
Simaril, most vets are not looking for a challenge. They will fly the uber planes like n1ks, spitfires, hurris and tempests. They like to combine good skills with good planes. They don't like dying as much as any noob. People that fly jugs, 109s, 190s, or planes that suck at turning and push them past their limit in furballs are the ones looking for challenges. You don't even need to be good or a vet to do that.
Whines the boy that can only be found in a hord and in a Typhoon. Kettle meet pot...pot meet kettle.
ack-ack
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Stir the pot quick ....
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One time in a drunken fit I killshot my 262 on AKAK. When I came to the next day the film was hilarious to watch!
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Originally posted by Dead Man Flying
Kermit thinks he's good. :aok
-- Todd/Leviathn
I think he's pretty good.
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Originally posted by Pooface
:huh :huh :huh
im as confused as you are.
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Originally posted by bozon
Now, more seriously. Rolling a "rare" planes mission attracts attention. Even if you roll 10 player Hurrican 1 or P40 this will bring a lot of opposition just because it is different and interesting.
Or a squadron of D3As :aok
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Originally posted by YUCCA
I think he's pretty good.
:aok
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I would be happy to take any perks that can be spared. It will help support my Tempest addiction. :D
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And people in hell want ice water. :aok
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If a perk ride means that much to you, then why up one. I don't have enough perks yet to not get "unhappy" when I die in one, so I'll only up one if squaddies insist. I agree, a perk ride, even a Tempest or a C-Hog is an attention magnet. Perk points for a "low number" guy-get real! I had a relatively- for me- low number last month based on two good toolshed runs and, I assure you, killing me is no honor.
:rolleyes:
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Originally posted by wrongwayric
Wonder when A.H. is going to just put a rebel flag up as launch window, as the good ole boy attitude is alive and well here. (inbreeeeeddddderrrrss)
ah, this clears it up.handsomehunk
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help zOMFFg QUAH!!!