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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: miko2d on August 14, 2001, 10:12:00 AM
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Guys,
My wife's company instituted a new policy on internet use. While occasional use of Internet is allowed, plenty of most usefull sites are blocked for no apparent reason.
They blocked Barns&Noble where she buys the books needed for work, Pottery Barn (but not Crate and Barrel), BabiesRUs and others.
They will probably sort it out eventually, but for now it's a hassle.
I heard there are some resources and proxy servers that allow you to browse stuff through them to avoid being blocked. Or something.
Could anyone refer me to any information regarding such resources or any way to beat the filterning.
Thanks,
miko
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www.multiproxy.org (http://www.multiproxy.org)
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https://www.safeweb.com or https://www.triangleboy.com
both are the same thing, just on different IP addresses last time i checked, works very well.
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if your filter is good, it blocks the sites that allow you to go around the proxy. ;)
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Triangleboy also has the following reflectors:
https://128.223.22.54:8443
https://164.125.144.65
BUT personally my favourite is www.orangatango.com (http://www.orangatango.com)
Its much faster than safeweb.
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If I read correctly, he wants to bypass the security of the server using another software program. Unless I read incorrectly, all the sites listed in reply were for proxy software that will block sites.
Have I misread?
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No, safeweb (triangleboy is a reflector for it) and orangatango are Virtual Web browsers that use HTTPS (port 443) encrypted SSL traffic.
IE:
- you go to orangatango
- it starts a virtual browser in your web browser
- it routers all your web traffic via orangatango who send it to you encrypted and securely on the https protocol (443), ie the proxy/censor software only sees the data as coming from orangatango, and as unintelligable garbage as its encrypted.
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Vulcan-
I thought that might be what you meant, thanks for the info!
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Ya need to be careful though; I've read in reputable computer industry magazine that illegal surfing can be used as a ground of firing someone. It's happened before and isn't as rare as one might think.
It's basically going against formal business processes and rules and management are usually not very tolerant of that.
[ 08-15-2001: Message edited by: StSanta ]
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Originally posted by StSanta:
It's basically going against formal business processes and rules and management are usually not very tolerant of that
He's right. Here we sign a acceptable use policy thingie to make it an official grounds for firing.
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No acceptable use policies specify you may NOT use web services such as Safeweb or Orangatango. Its just where you go and how much time you spend on those services.
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Can IT people find out what kind of sites one is going to through the safeweb? I guess not :)
Surprisingly, I need to use this site to go to one of the work-related sites :)
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Can't an IT person see the traffic on these sites and just block them? Safeweb and Orangatango? Heck the company I work at (under 70 employees) keeps track of a ton of Internet data, every week I can see details like how long I've been at hitechcreations.com and how many bytes I have transferred, or how long I've been connected to the internet.....just waiting for the IT police to tell me to stop surfing so much.
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I think they can but they didn't realize that they should yet :) For example, I can't use www.anonymizer.com (http://www.anonymizer.com) from work (that's probably one of the oldest "anonymity" web sites).
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Are you guys as creative and persistent in doing your job as you are in trying to sneak around behind your employers back?
;)
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Originally posted by hblair:
Are you guys as creative and persistent in doing your job as you are in trying to sneak around behind your employers back?
;)
If you get the job done, there is no need to hire more people to do it. So unemployment occurs and economy suffers. Economy is moved by spending, not productivity, so as long as we are paid huge salaries, everything is going to be all right. :)
miko
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Exactly. As long as we have our ridiculous salaries and near-free foreign labor - we're all set :))
I'm using safeweb to access one of the work-related sites that for some reason is dead slow from our company's internet connection.
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Well, the system administrator can pull up a *wealth* of data on user usage of the system/network. He can also very easily block access to sites such as anonymizer.com and so forth.
What a friend of mine here does is he uses a little program he's written - it is executed Sunday night and basically looks for web usage during working hours for all users. he can adjust variables such as number of sites visited, bytes downloaded, total time spent etc. If it reaches above a specified level, it's reported in a log file and he manually checks out the user to see whether it's legitimate use or waste of company money.
According to him, more than a few have been caught in his net - most think it's impossible for an admin to keep an eye out on every user when there's so much traffic. It ain't :). And admins have a tendency to have a personality in line with the Bastard Operator From Hell :D. In the company he works for, people get two warnings by mail. A third violation results in a face to face talk, and a fourth is grounds for firing.
If yer a nerd, you can beat the admin - there are several ways of spoofing 'im, or simply turning the data he receives into something that cannot be used as grounds for firing someone. If ya *ain't* a nerd, I would advice you *not* to try to outsmart the admin - these guys love such challenges (its their equivalent of hacking) and will probably spend their free time figuring things out, just for the fun of it.
Of course, many companies have an IT department that doesn't know what the hell they're doing. The Code Red and other viruses have proven that. The risk however is that you'll run across the dude that has run UNIX on his machines since his early teens and doesn't go to work - he goes to "play".
Hm, actually sounds fun to have that role. Am sorta undecided between admin and software development, but unfortunately I only started with UNIX two years ago, so I prolly lack the real expertise needed :).
Ooops, getting long. What I wanted to say was: check the IT use contract - some (most?) companies or organisations have one ya have to sign on to. Then check the expertise of the IT department. THEN risk it, if everything is in your favour :).
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I consider everyone who is trying to limit my internet use, a criminal.
Realy, i don't see the problem. Just give all people all access, they will quit sooner or later out of boredom.
In the beginning i was also looking for porn and such, but now, maaaaan i don't even know what to look for nowadays.
Same story as people who work in Restaurant kitchens. In the beginning they want to eat it all, after a week or so, they can't even think about eating it.
And about censoring of language and so. That IS a criminal thing. Everyone knows the fowl language, so why hide it.
It is not like i want everybody to curse around all day, but it is not that terrible as people claim.
The children, which those F****G companies are trying to protect, know even more filthy words, no one can stop that.
So i just hope we here in the netherlands are not going in the same direction as the U.S. when it comes to those damned beeps in music or talkshows. When it comes to that, i will never listen to those radio or television stations ever again.
I will try to obstruct it in any way.
Thanks for this post, i may have been a bit distracted though. :)
Sincerely,
JG5FaBi.