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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: cav58d on May 11, 2006, 12:02:15 AM
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In responce to all the threads about perking the LA/Nik/Spit Series etc ive come up with my own suggestion...
This sytem would work like our current ENY, except all aircraft would still be flyable, they would just be limited, the more so for lower eny...
ex- 250 players logged on....ENY kicks in and only 30-40 LA's, Niks, ect. are available...If all slots are filled for the aircraft when a player tries to up the LA he would get the "unable to fly" message...His choices would be to either wait in tower and hope to try and up at the right time right after one of the already airborne LA's dies or towers, or he would simply be forced to fly a higher ENY plane with less of a #'s restriction?
i dunno...its late
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I like it, but since i like it. it will never happen. :D
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The planes aren't the issue so much as that which gets recognition in the arena.
Regardless of how they're shot down, folks notice the "so and so landed 14 kills in an LA7 of the 'Vulchers are Us' Squadron", followed by a chorus of "attaboys" from the crowd. Landing a bunch of kills for your 'attaboy' is what becomes the drug for the crowd. As long as that is the measuring stick for recognition, the crowds will fly what they think will allow them to Ho, vulch and escape.
Personally I could care less what the other guy is in at this point. But then again if I can survive actual air to air fights and land a couple halfway earned kills now and then, I figure I'm doing OK.
I'd prefer that what I fly is my choice and I'd have a hard time with someone else dicating my choices. I'll probably be in a P38G for the going to their place for a fight and a Spit 8 to defend my place, but again it's my choice as I have fun in those birds.
If the other guy wants an LA7 that bad or a Spit 16, so be it.
I still say unperk em all and let the AH gods sort em out.
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I am trying to ween myself off the 7, landing 14 kills a sortie is getting embarasing.
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Originally posted by Guppy35
The planes aren't the issue so much as that which gets recognition in the arena.
Regardless of how they're shot down, folks notice the "so and so landed 14 kills in an LA7 of the 'Vulchers are Us' Squadron", followed by a chorus of "attaboys" from the crowd. Landing a bunch of kills for your 'attaboy' is what becomes the drug for the crowd. As long as that is the measuring stick for recognition, the crowds will fly what they think will allow them to Ho, vulch and escape.
Personally I could care less what the other guy is in at this point. But then again if I can survive actual air to air fights and land a couple halfway earned kills now and then, I figure I'm doing OK.
I'd prefer that what I fly is my choice and I'd have a hard time with someone else dicating my choices. I'll probably be in a P38G for the going to their place for a fight and a Spit 8 to defend my place, but again it's my choice as I have fun in those birds.
If the other guy wants an LA7 that bad or a Spit 16, so be it.
I still say unperk em all and let the AH gods sort em out.
I agree and will add this. why not form a squad of like minded players, up at prearranged times and hunt the vultching HO runner tards in their planes of choice? that is to say everyone involved is in the ride of their choice be it 109G2 in my case or PG in yours. I would bet that four guys who knew their preferred rides well could put down a fair number of the current crop of MA players irrespective of their choice of plane, provided they had a little friendly support with the inevitable pigpile that soon occurs once the tardling starts frantically squawking for help as he runs for dear life.
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I think you have a great idea but then again even though i feel theres a huge uneven proportion of those planes around and i thought that's what the perking was done for, to keep certain equipment even and in check which is obviously not happening. I still don't want to limit what plane someone would fly, i have no right to do that, i think if you buy the game you should be able to fly any plane in the inventory if you really love it so i'm torn, but very interesting idea.
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I also don't understand the logic of hunting planes on the ground. I will fly over airfields when planes are taking and purposefully won't shoot at them untill they takeoff or have gained enough e to do something i feel like a heel, and to me it's just not fun doing so. To me the game is getting into a nice fight with someone and winning or losing, that's fun
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What about the pilots that land 6-10 kills regularly and don't HO, vulch, and escape.
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Originally posted by cav58d
In responce to all the threads about perking the LA/Nik/Spit Series etc ive come up with my own suggestion...
This sytem would work like our current ENY, except all aircraft would still be flyable, they would just be limited, the more so for lower eny...
ex- 250 players logged on....ENY kicks in and only 30-40 LA's, Niks, ect. are available...If all slots are filled for the aircraft when a player tries to up the LA he would get the "unable to fly" message...His choices would be to either wait in tower and hope to try and up at the right time right after one of the already airborne LA's dies or towers, or he would simply be forced to fly a higher ENY plane with less of a #'s restriction?
i dunno...its late
Pay my subscribtion and I'll perhaps agree with you.
Give me money and I'll agree with you.
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Originally posted by WMLute
What about the pilots that land 6-10 kills regularly and don't HO, vulch, and escape.
they should be applauded.
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What about the pilots that land 6-10 kills regularly and don't HO, vulch, and escape.
What planes are they landing those kills in is what i would ask you?
If they are landing them in a HurriMKI,or any early war planes then my hat is off too them.
If they are landing them in all late war planes then oh well.
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Originally posted by AutoPilot
What planes are they landing those kills in is what i would ask you?
If they are landing them in a HurriMKI,or any early war planes then my hat is off too them.
If they are landing them in all late war planes then oh well.
oh well? how many times have you done that in any ride? the most I ever landed was eight and it was in AH1.
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Originally posted by cav58d
Dear Hitech,
While I wouldnt want you to tell ME what to fly, please tell everyone else what THEY fly, because they are annoying me.
Sincerely,
Cav58D
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<---- 14 in a hurri a month or so ago doing base defence :D
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1 thought I had was more in the way of how the ENY system works for the # of players per side.
The more of type (A) plane there are up and flying in the arena total, the more the perk value go's up on said plane, to say a max of no more than 20 to 25 perks, about the same as the F4U-4 and when the # drops back down they cost less untill they are free once again. This would allow us to spend perks and still allow the new guys to fly them free or cheep depending on how many were in the air at the time.
All the normal perk planes would stay the way they are.
It was just a thought I had when I saw I had near 5000
(I know some of you have many more)
fighter perks and started looking at perk rides to fly..... Not much of a selection... I don't like the 262 so there go's one of the biggest perk burners right off the bat, I love the F4U-4 but it looks like I could up 220 of them in a row befor I ran out of perks and even though I like flying it I don't want to fly it that much :)
I guess I'm just saying it would be nice to actually have something to spend the perks on other than the what 6 or so perk planes we have even if it were the so called non perked uber rides... Besides I feel so dweeby if I up an LA-7 or a Spit-16 I wouldn't feel so dweeby if I had spent something for them.:)
Besides just think We could all up spit 1's and for the first time in AH history give it a perk price. :D
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Perks/smerks. A good example of master perk flyers is in another thread here as we speak. You know the one............where they all up perk rides ....................and get OWNED . :rofl
Leave them alone and they will come home wagging their tails behind them. :aok
Rank/stank/spank........perks/smerks............furballer/toolshedder..........Fluff/Huff and Puff................weed hoppers/alt monkies...................... Score Hos/Noob`s toes..........Kerosene huffers/Big Ole Fluffers..............Gv drivers/PT hivers..........
Tower sitters/Channel 200 Bull errrrrrrrrrrr well you know. :)
It`s all part of the game and there is always going to be someone gnashing their teeth about something.
If you play for score/rank that`s fine, but you are missing out on the most important part of the game------------->FUN.
HT does a fine balancing act here. Take it from me, because I`ve "been there, done that." Forget about the politics and the teeth gnashing and let HT do what he does better than anyone in gaming history. Just grab what you wanna fly at any particular time and have fun. You are always, always one mouse click away from more fun. IT IS A GAME. :rofl
Leave the playground antics to the mass of kiddies.
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Anything that makes easy planes harder to get...means newer players cant get them, and (with perks systems) veteran players can.
This makes sense because.....?????
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HT does a fine balancing act here. Take it from me, because I`ve "been there, done that." Forget about the politics and the teeth gnashing and let HT do what he does better than anyone in gaming history. Just grab what you wanna fly at any particular time and have fun. You are always, always one mouse click away from more fun.
I could get behind this if every map had a FT. This last rotation of Donut has been exactly what you typed. It sucks we have to go back to the maps deficiant of a FT and I have to go back to logging in and logging out 5 mins later.
As far as what people fly, Who the Puk CARES. I with Dan. I love spanking 16s, La7s and the like so let em keep comming. :D
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If the planes really made all the difference, we'd all be flying them.
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Most of the N1K's I see are shooting at cities these days. So I see them as a non-issue.
Spit16's are dangerous because they accelerate so damn well and have the Hizooka's. But Spits are pretty fragile, so they die a lot already.
The La-7 usage would drop off dramatically if the 3-cannon option were removed. You don't see La-5's doing the HO'n'go dance because they don't have the lethality for it.
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Gotta have LA'S to chase all the running rooks ...Im tierd of trying to fly high eny planes and get out run by rooks that play the hit and run game!
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Originally posted by Kaw1000
Gotta have LA'S to chase all the running rooks ...Im tierd of trying to fly high eny planes and get out run by rooks that play the hit and run game!
LOL...Get real, every side has those types...Amazes me when some nugget thinks one country has the monopoly on a certain style of play.
Welcome to Earth...About the only difference between each country is the names on the pilots. Fly a different country for awhile, then you will see those types doing the same stuff that used to be your countrymen.
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Originally posted by cav58d
In responce to all the threads about perking the LA/Nik/Spit Series etc ive come up with my own suggestion...
This sytem would work like our current ENY, except all aircraft would still be flyable, they would just be limited, the more so for lower eny...
ex- 250 players logged on....ENY kicks in and only 30-40 LA's, Niks, ect. are available...If all slots are filled for the aircraft when a player tries to up the LA he would get the "unable to fly" message...His choices would be to either wait in tower and hope to try and up at the right time right after one of the already airborne LA's dies or towers, or he would simply be forced to fly a higher ENY plane with less of a #'s restriction?
i dunno...its late
stop your crying
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Originally posted by sharp8th
stop your crying
I dont care if this is implemented or not....Im just throwing out an idea for the ones who DO WANT IT
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I would think the only ones that would want this are the ones that have no idea how to fight against a La7 or N1K2.
ack-ack
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Ive got no problem fighting em...I even fly the LA's.....NIKI's happen to be my favorite prey in the hurrimk1...
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If I remember right in AW there were spit factories that if destroyed limited the number of spits available to that country.
Why not expand this idea and have spit, la, niki, 109, 51 and 38 factories it would give the buff lovers some strat and make the furballers get up and defend factories. Then the Buff guys would need escorts which would in turn lead to some hugh battles in the sky.
Place these factories at least 4 levels back to force long flight times and set back and see what happens :)
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all youdo it bi*cth about la7 n1k's ETC there is a place called the AvA you can play in
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Originally posted by Jackal1
Perks/smerks. A good example of master perk flyers is in another thread here as we speak. You know the one............where they all up perk rides ....................and get OWNED . :rofl
Leave them alone and they will come home wagging their tails behind them. :aok
Rank/stank/spank........perks/smerks............furballer/toolshedder..........Fluff/Huff and Puff................weed hoppers/alt monkies...................... Score Hos/Noob`s toes..........Kerosene huffers/Big Ole Fluffers..............Gv drivers/PT hivers..........
Tower sitters/Channel 200 Bull errrrrrrrrrrr well you know. :)
It`s all part of the game and there is always going to be someone gnashing their teeth about something.
If you play for score/rank that`s fine, but you are missing out on the most important part of the game------------->FUN.
HT does a fine balancing act here. Take it from me, because I`ve "been there, done that." Forget about the politics and the teeth gnashing and let HT do what he does better than anyone in gaming history. Just grab what you wanna fly at any particular time and have fun. You are always, always one mouse click away from more fun. IT IS A GAME. :rofl
Leave the playground antics to the mass of kiddies.
well said :aok
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Wait a minute, we can shoot stuff down and get kills?!??!?!?! No wonder I suck always wondered what bullets were for. :D
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Don't worry about what type of a c you're up against. Worry about who's flying it. It doesn't matter if the arena is full of lala's etc... they die just as easy as anything else in the wrong hands. In the right hands it will kill you as easy as anything else. If you like flying p40's, spit1's etc.. try out the AvA arena but don't try to impose your will on the rest of the community. Fly what you like, like what you fly.
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Define uber. I am not very good, but I seem to get a lot of kills (for me) in a F4u-1d, so is that uber? Yes, I cherry pick - I also sometimes get low and slow with those flaps. I'm learning. Pretty good survival rate, too - for me. How about the 205? I went one tour getting a lot of kills (for me) in a 205. Spit XVI are a pain in the axx, so I'm trying to learn how to fight them. Think I have more kills of them then they do of me - barely. Again, I'm not very good, so are they still uber? Same with La7. The only "uber" plane I'm aware of is the 262 - I can't catch it, and it can always catch me - but it usually can't turn with me, so SA is my main method of surviving one of them. Sorry for the long winded post, but I really don't understand these perk threads.