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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: pzvg on May 10, 2000, 12:09:00 PM
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Earlier today my brother-in-law WERT was flying, He got into a row over what would best help the knights, and got angry enough to bail, die, and log.
People no one gave anybody a right to be the boss here, people play (operative word play)
for different reasons, there are some things the community in general does not approve of, and that's acceptable, but getting into a heat because somebody doesn't feel like taking orders is not. Wert is military, so am I, we take enough orders in real life to want to avoid it in our play time. You should respect that, we respect things other people want, even if we don't agree with them. You are most definitly not going to change our minds, or anybody else's for that matter, by being ugly.
take care all, and engage brain before opening mouth.
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pzvg- "5 years and I still can't shoot"
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<Punt> Yup ! I'm with ya on that one, I like flying with my squad, or like to see some organised field taking... But I do appreciate being left on my own sometimes as well...Hell, I pay 30$ / Month to do what I want to do, right ?
Come back Wurt, errr, Wert !!!
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Hmmm I don't see it that way.
For me it's like a pick-up basketball game. If one of the guys on my team starts picking his nose instead of defending his man, I'm going to let him hear about it.
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In a Historical Scenario, sure it's ok to jump on someone for not doing what he's supposed to do. That's the whole point of scenarios ... structured just like in real life.
In the Main Arena, only 1 rule applies: Have Fun!! If I want to hunt buffs all night, that's what I'm going to do and I shouldn't have to feel guilty or be berated by someone because I'm not doing what they want me to do. If I'm in a squad, sure that's another story, but if I'm solo don't automatically expect me to be a part of what you've decided to do.
Have Fun!!! .... nuff said.
Ex ..........................
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I've only had one guy badger me about participation one day that I had time for "a quick fix" (15-20 min sortie)...I simply thanked him for the invitation to help Knights out, but I was limited to my online time, he again badgered myself and everyone not helping him, and I politely asked if he was paying my monthly bill...he stopped badgering everyone, whined alittle more, then changed countries, and we enjoyed killing him from that point on.
Out of something bad, ALWAYS comes something good!
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Funked, I own the bat and ball, so if you don't play along with me, I'll walk home. WAAAH (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
Naw, seriously though. Some days one wants to be a lone wolf, others one wants to be part of a team. I pay $30 a month and that gives me the right to do whatever I want, be it killshoot myself to death all the time (and where the HELL did you come from hristos, my 0mm's ripped me up good!) (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
<turns around and waits for the pain as funked throws me a fast ball on the back of my head>
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StSanta
II/JG2
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once again,
"shut up and fly..."
or as we bastards say, "pass the wings fattass!!"
hell, we have enough trouble getting our own squad to follow orders...."what order?"..."i thought you meant order of wings!" We fly to have a good time, if we want to be organized we will (attempt that is). I don't think ANYONE should berate or yell at anyone else becuase they didn't want to participate in the orders at hand. Key word is participation...if you want to you will, if not, then leave the orders for those who want to follow them. If someone asks, thats just it, they "asked" you to play, NEVER means you have too!
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Mason22
Fat Drunk Bastards (http://fdb.50megs.com) -- "shut up and FLY"
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I left bishops for the knights BECAUSE they have organization. Nothing is more frustrating then watching 30 of your countrymen all fly fighters to vulch some poor defenseless field, while no one flies a c47. Meanwhile, all the fields near your HQ get captured (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif) Saw this one too many times with bish.
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I used to argue with some of these guys that would yell and scream at you cause you wouldn't follow their orders but soon learned it wasn't worth the wear and tear on my keyboard trying to tell them to shut up.
I now squelch the guys who rant and rave about not following their orders.
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Mighty1
The New Baby Harp Seals
"Come try to club THIS Seal"
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Yep. 2 steps to log onto to AH for me.
1. Click online.
2. Type .squelch 1
When the squeakin' starts, type .squelch xxxx (xxxx=squeaker)
Thats what I really like about JG2. They understand that sometime you just want to lone wolf it.
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Apache
I/JG2 ~Richthofen~ (http://www.busprod.com/weazel2/)
"Abandon All Hope"
[This message has been edited by Apache (edited 05-10-2000).]
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Don't really agree funked. People can ask me, (more often then not when I log on I ask where the Knights need help), but the moment someone starts telling me what to do I ignore them. I am there to have fun and to do as I please. I am not there to cow to a self proclaimed General. Of course this hold true to the Main. Special Events have rules that should be respected.
Your right Mighty, it is not worth the effort to argue with them. Squelch is the key for those that will not leave you alone.
Ignore em WERT. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
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daddog
332nd Flying Mongrels (http://www.ropescourse.org/flying.htm)
Snapshots (http://www.ropescourse.org/snapshot.htm)
(http://www.ropescourse.org/cdaddog.jpg)
Where men become friends and friends become brothers.
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Come over to Rooks, we never even *think* about getting organized. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
popeye
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I'm with the anarchist crowd: It's my money & my nose and I'll stand around picking it if that's what I want to do. My default response to unsolicited 'orders' is to simply ignore them lest I encourage future instances of the same. If this annoys some wannabe general, that’s just icing on my $30 slice of cake. On the other hand, I'm generally receptive to most things when ASKED. When I do choose to participate in coordinated activities, I appreciate it when others [politely] inform me what role they think I may best fill or (afterwards) what they might have done differently.
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"Thats what I really like about JG2. They understand that sometime you just want to lone wolf it."
That's what I like about JG 2 also!
<G,D,R>
(http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
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Last night in a nice fighter furball South of A33. Someone called that A7 was having a hard time and asked for help. With the skies clear of enemy fighters, I promptly ditched (captured) and then went to field A7.
MY wingie Ygsmilo even followed me!! Talk about a faithful wingman!! (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif) When I logged A7 was intact and good shape.
The person who called for help didn't whine or complain but asked for help. I got there ASAP.
It turned out to be quite fun!! Ended up with 2 air-to-air kills (ME109 and F4U), 2 kills from a M16 (B26 and P38), and 1 assist with 1 death! BONUS!
BTW, that is really, really good for me so don't laugh!! (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif).
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Swager
I/JG2~Richthofen~
"Damn.....I can't believe I missed that shot!!!"
(http://saintaw.tripod.com/swager.jpg)
JG2 "Richthofen" (http://www.busprod.com/weazel2/)
[This message has been edited by Swager (edited 05-10-2000).]
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We had this guy that used ta holler at us bishops for not conforming to his concept of MA play.. he indicated that it was frustrating watching 30 of his former countrymen all fly fighters to vulch some poor defenseless field, and alleged that none of us flies a c47.
Last I heard, he went to knights. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
Now that we have peace and quiet again; we got about half the fields in the MA. HAHA!
Hang
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Hey...someone implyin Bish's got organizational skills??? Thems Fightin Words!
....oh, the opposite, ok, much better. You off the hook (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
Sounds to me like good ol' General Balo, General of all that liveth and breatheth has surruptishesly infiltrated the Knight's in hopes of mounting a coup. Hold on brothers, We'll all switch to Knights and save ya...naw, never mind, go hang (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
Oh, last but not least, I love to work together. I like teamwork. I will not be ordered nowhere by no one. If by chance that happens I'm fully prepared to give you what was given to me recently; an Ostrich, the biggest bird they could find (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
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Liz-
"The time may come when your State will need your services; and if that time does come, then draw your swords and throw away your scabbards" T.J.(Stonewall) Jackson
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Oh...btw, I'm the newest proudest member of "The Screamin Meanies". May God help them! (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
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I fly under the nic "Gort" at the moment, and I think I am probably the player in question here. This is my 7th day in AH. I think Wert's displeasure was prompted by a comment I made to the effect that some of us were behaving like "handsomehunkes". First and foremost, I dont presume to give orders, not even to myself. Perhaps Wert felt that was what I was doing, sorry bud, and I mean it. However, we are responsible for or own perceptions and emotions, and I am not overly concerned with what folks think of me. Because of this, and the limitations inherent to communicating via one line of typed text, I am tend to be direct, even blunt. If you choose to take it personally, thats your choice, you may choose otherwise, its up to you. My philisophical leanings are towards individual freedom, and the capitalist notion that "he who pays the piper calls the tune" is one I agree with. If you don't wanna play with me , don't. No hard feelings, and I will still committ virtual suicide tryin to save your butt, if you are on my team, when you get in trouble in the arena. I expect others to NOT do this for me, so I am pleasantly surprised when they do. I enjoy being part of a coordinated effort, and prefer that someone else lead that effort, but I am not so timid as not to attempt organizing such an effort. As I mentioned before, I'm new here, and I am in the process of identifying those who will participate in teamwork from those who won't. I dont keep toejam lists or hold grudges. This is just a game, and I am not looking to make enemies. If I offend you, you're welcome to tell me to piss off, you aint gonna hurt my feelings. I've used the word "I" too many times in this post for my liking, and promise not to do it so much in the future. Good luck, and gute jagd. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
[This message has been edited by Klatuu (edited 05-11-2000).]
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Originally posted by HaHa:
I left bishops for the knights BECAUSE they have organization. Nothing is more frustrating then watching 30 of your countrymen all fly fighters to vulch some poor defenseless field, while no one flies a c47. Meanwhile, all the fields near your HQ get captured (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif) Saw this one too many times with bish.
Trust me Haha...happens here as well (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
But hey, It doesn't take my sleep away ! (Only Torque does that)
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Yep pop... Do I kust pick those kinda countries or do they pick me?
lazs
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If one of the guys on my team starts picking his nose instead of defending his man, I'm going to let him hear about it.
I completely disagree, funked. You, or anyone else, has no right to tell me how to spend my time in AH. You do have the right to encourage me and others to work together, but to take it to the point of making someone feel bad by not "playing by your rules" is just wrong.
During our squad night, however, I expect to to be expected to work together with my squad and my country.
And most of the time, I try to help Rooks get organized, or at least will fly with other rooks to a fight. There are times, however, when I simply don't have the time to do this.
As a father of a young child, my AH time is extremely limited. There are times when I have only 20 or 30 mins for a quick sortie. On these nights, I'm not much help to my country. And I'll thank y'all to not harass me for this!
Before you criticize someone else for not "helping", please realize that it may be due to some unapparent circumstance.
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(http://www.raf303.org/308/308banner.gif)
"Turning Knight & Bishop sheep into lamb chops since 1999"
[This message has been edited by banana (edited 05-11-2000).]
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HaHa....
I don't want to burst your bubble my friend, but as a Knight since the first day I started AH, I've sat on numerous vehicle fields that I've captured in my Panzer IV for 15-30 minutes. calling on Channel 2 for a C47. Most of the time I get no response. I've even offered $1,000 for the first guy to get there with no result.
My point is that it's just a GAME and people pay their $30 to do whatever they want. Every country is the same, depending upon the system loading and current cultural group playing.
Personally, I hate the over organizer types that try to make it into a lifestyle.
Regards,
Badger
"The New Baby Harp Seals"
(http://saintaw.tripod.com/badger.gif)
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Hiyas Gort (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
Some advice from an old fart....
Fly Bishops (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
and BTW...Do whatcha wanna do...NO ONE can tell ya who to sock it to....it's yo thing (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
Rude Out!
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I always find that as soon as I get to height, someone will call for a Goon. I think, "Damnit"
If I am not occupied, and someone calls for goon I will usually get one. Unless the target is A1! (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
One must also remember that to bring a goon in sucessfully the field must be pretty surpressed. Flying a goon for a long distance and then just getting shot down is not helping anyone.
If one is trying to rally the troops and noone answers dosen't mean that the country does not fight together. It means there are many things going on in this world of AH. The Knights fight together pretty well.
I always listen for Flybywr to call for a goon! It is for good reason!! (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif) I blew a field capture with him the other night because I'm stupid!! (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
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Swager
I/JG2~Richthofen~
"Damn.....I can't believe I missed that shot!!!"
(http://saintaw.tripod.com/swager.jpg)
JG2 "Richthofen" (http://www.busprod.com/weazel2/)
[This message has been edited by Swager (edited 05-11-2000).]
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The kids are alright from JG2.
No orders, just friendly questions,
like it that way. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
blitz
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Sometimes I might ask for help, but I dont think anyone has a right to demand it or belittle anyone for not following someone elses orders.
When others have tried to order me around, I have asked for their Visa card number, when they asked why, I explained if they were going to control my plane, they were goign to pay my bill.
That seems to stop that nonsenes.
Dago