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Title: Firefox browser
Post by: Elfie on May 15, 2006, 03:27:34 PM
I just downloaded and installed Firefox a couple days ago. A couple things I have noticed are that web pages display faster and that a couple websites I visit regularly that have popup adds, those popups dont happen anymore. I have popup blockers for IE but the popups from those 2 websites would still happen. They dont anymore with Firefox. Anyone else notice these types of differences?
Title: Firefox browser
Post by: Mickey1992 on May 15, 2006, 03:35:38 PM
Firefox rules.  Although it still lets in the occasional popup.

Death to ActiveX and IE.
Title: Firefox browser
Post by: BlueJ1 on May 15, 2006, 03:36:47 PM
Tabs are almost as good as boobies...Well maybe not that good but their nice.
Title: Firefox browser
Post by: Skuzzy on May 15, 2006, 03:43:25 PM
You can kill ActiveX in IE.  

Actually, you should kill ActiveX in the "Internet Options" anyway.  If you use Outlook, or any derivative thereof, you are still exposed to lots of nasty stuff.
Title: Firefox browser
Post by: Roscoroo on May 15, 2006, 03:46:42 PM
add these extensions to it

no script

add block

image zoom

mouse gestures

I have java on mine but with no script you can set each website with permission to allow ... they are blocked by default
Title: Firefox browser
Post by: Tarmac on May 15, 2006, 04:24:02 PM
the adblock extension for Firefox is the greatest thing ever.  Grab it.

(you do know about extensions, right?  In firefox go to tools menu -> extensions-> get more extensions)

I'm using Linkification, IEview, Gmail notifier, fasterfox, pdfdownload, tabbrowser preferences, DownThemAll, forecastfox, and adblock.
Title: Firefox browser
Post by: ChickenHawk on May 15, 2006, 04:46:19 PM
I'm a firm Firefox convert.  I cringe every time I have to use IE.
Title: Firefox browser
Post by: xrtoronto on May 15, 2006, 05:20:28 PM
Does anyone here use Opera Browser?
I'd like to know how FireFox compares to Opera...(been using Opera exclusively for 7-8 years now)
Title: Firefox browser
Post by: Roscoroo on May 15, 2006, 05:38:08 PM
the fox has blown all the other browsers away ..


http://www.pcworld.com/reviews/article/0,aid,120763,00.asp (http://www.pcworld.com/reviews/article/0,aid,120763,00.asp)
Title: Firefox browser
Post by: dmf on May 15, 2006, 07:08:55 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Roscoroo
add these extensions to it

no script

add block

image zoom

mouse gestures

I have java on mine but with no script you can set each website with permission to allow ... they are blocked by default


Don't forget the PDF Download extension
and Thunderbird is a really good email client too.
Title: Firefox browser
Post by: x0847Marine on May 15, 2006, 07:21:46 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Tarmac
the adblock extension for Firefox is the greatest thing ever.  Grab it.

(you do know about extensions, right?  In firefox go to tools menu -> extensions-> get more extensions)

I'm using Linkification, IEview, Gmail notifier, fasterfox, pdfdownload, tabbrowser preferences, DownThemAll, forecastfox, and adblock.


Grab the new bugmetnot, it fills in all those lame "you must register to read this article"

http://www.bugmenot.com/
Title: Firefox browser
Post by: SOB on May 15, 2006, 07:31:43 PM
I concur with the Ad Block yay-sayers.  If you only get one extension, make sure it's this one.  Of course, you don't have to just stop at one.  ;)
Title: Firefox browser
Post by: TPIguy on May 15, 2006, 09:27:48 PM
http://www.tweakguides.com/Firefox_1.html

you can make it load pages faster if you use some of the above tweaks.
Title: Firefox browser
Post by: Elfie on May 15, 2006, 09:29:08 PM
What is an extension?
Title: Firefox browser
Post by: ROC on May 15, 2006, 10:25:31 PM
I used Opera for about a year.  Firefox has a better interface for me, and I rarely get to use my spyware cleaner.

I've deleted Internet Explorer from every computer in my office, they run Firefox or nothing.
Title: Firefox browser
Post by: ChickenHawk on May 15, 2006, 10:41:18 PM
Quote
Originally posted by xrtoronto
Does anyone here use Opera Browser?
I'd like to know how FireFox compares to Opera...(been using Opera exclusively for 7-8 years now)


I used Opera when I was playing Ogame and found it very similar to Firefox.  I went back to the Fox though because it just feels better to me.
Title: Firefox browser
Post by: CHECKERS on May 15, 2006, 10:44:08 PM
Elfie..
 I have been using Firefox for a long time .  I also use Mozilla Thunderbird email
client.
Title: Firefox browser
Post by: Tarmac on May 15, 2006, 10:54:51 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Elfie
What is an extension?


It's an add-on for Firefox that does cool stuff.  You download them individually, so you can customize pretty much everything.  For example, my browser displays the weather, blocks ads, and checks my email every 10 minutes automatically.
Title: Firefox browser
Post by: Saintaw on May 16, 2006, 12:56:58 AM
Firefox is the brower's that the closest of all to matching W3C standards, so yes... as a webdev, I'll beg y'all to use Firefox! Opera being the 2nd... I'm not sure about IE7, but if they do it like they have done previous versions...

Elfie: Extentions are like plugins. Most are user made (Make sure you only get certified ones from the mozilla website).
Title: Firefox browser
Post by: Nilsen on May 16, 2006, 02:51:31 AM
Quote
Originally posted by xrtoronto
Does anyone here use Opera Browser?
I'd like to know how FireFox compares to Opera...(been using Opera exclusively for 7-8 years now)


I use Opera and Firefox. Currently i use 9b Opera on both my mac and pc.
Title: Firefox browser
Post by: FUNKED1 on May 16, 2006, 03:46:47 AM
Stick with Opera unless you have a specific compatibility problem or you enjoy spending hours downloading and configuring extensions and other doodads.
Title: Firefox browser
Post by: mora on May 16, 2006, 03:49:46 AM
ditto
Title: Firefox browser
Post by: Nilsen on May 16, 2006, 03:55:24 AM
Have been trading (for fun only) Opera shares for about a week now. Its been holding up pretty good even if the total market here has gone down with over 5% over the last few days due mostly to falling dollar and lower oil prices.

They are getting into several new phones and the new Nintendo console will have the Opera browser :)
Title: Firefox browser
Post by: Thud on May 16, 2006, 04:35:31 AM
Quote
Originally posted by FUNKED1
Stick with Opera unless you have a specific compatibility problem or you enjoy spending hours downloading and configuring extensions and other doodads.


Nah, You will have FireFox customized, up and running in some five-ten minutes.
Title: Firefox browser
Post by: Saintaw on May 16, 2006, 04:55:07 AM
Funked doesn't like expermumiments. Opera also has a nifty cache for pr0n...
Title: Firefox browser
Post by: MrBill on May 16, 2006, 10:53:46 AM
Firefox is another tribute to the power of stupid people in large numbers ... kinda like windos.

Up and running in 5 minutes DOES NOT mean properly configured or properly secured.

The only reason I use Opera more than Firefox is simply because its faster.  
It took weeks of tweaking to get it to look and feel like I wanted it, but at least I did not have to download, plug in, configure, start over, ad nauseam.

Not to mention that it works and looks exactly the same on windos, apple and OS/2.
Title: Firefox browser
Post by: Boroda on May 16, 2006, 01:23:40 PM
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Originally posted by MrBill
Not to mention that it works and looks exactly the same on windos, apple and OS/2.


Are you serious? Can OS/2 still be found on any "client" machine where there's a need for a modern browser?

I really miss OS/2. If only IBM spent $30M on marketing for OS/2 in 1994 (M$ spent $300M on Win95 marketing in 1995) - we could have a good stable OS years before Win2000 and w/o M$ "bells and whistles".
Title: Firefox browser
Post by: Mickey1992 on May 16, 2006, 01:31:06 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Boroda
If only IBM spent $30M on marketing for OS/2 in 1994 (M$ spent $300M on Win95 marketing in 1995) - we could have a good stable OS years before Win2000 and w/o M$ "bells and whistles".


If only Microsoft had not been allowed to enforce license agreements with PC manufacturers so that even if the buyer wanted OS/2 installed, they still had to pay for a Windows license.
Title: Firefox browser
Post by: FUNKED1 on May 16, 2006, 04:41:39 PM
Funny thing is that I actually use Firefox more than Opera.  I had some compatibility problems with Opera on a few particular sites which worked fine with Firefox, so I switched.
Title: Firefox browser
Post by: Nilsen on May 16, 2006, 04:48:23 PM
As i said.. i use both opera and firefox

I kinda like that our small country has a browser that is internationlay recognized. Maybe im using Opera out of nationlaist feelings, or perhaps its because i own shares in the company...or both

Ilike it. I hated it afew years ago because it was bloated, but now it is slick and fast.

:)

use it or dont... i knwo they make thir money know from embedded solutions and from getting their software into cellphones etc.

small company that has made it in an environent that is usually doninated by the huge.... i like it.


dont remember how much MS has lost in total with their IE browser, but it was a huge pile of $.


Opera is making money even if they only have a very few % of the total market
Title: Firefox browser
Post by: LePaul on May 16, 2006, 07:38:47 PM
I had a lot of problems with Firefox logging into sites that need some of the ASP and ActiveX components (banking, 401k stuff, etc)

Until the companies I visit change over support for other browsers, I have to keep using IE
Title: Firefox browser
Post by: BlueJ1 on May 16, 2006, 07:51:46 PM
I just downloaded opera to give it a try. Gona be hard to swing me from firefox.

EDIT: 3 minutes into using it Im impressed.

EDIT AGAIN: Im in love. Firefox is now my #2 browser.
Title: Firefox browser
Post by: Elfie on May 16, 2006, 08:50:42 PM
So which extensions should I go get?
Title: Firefox browser
Post by: Chairboy on May 16, 2006, 09:32:36 PM
I also like Flashblock.  All flash anims are replaced by a Play button, cuts down on pretty much all of the other annoying ads.  If you have Ad Block, get the Ad Block updater, it automatically updates the ad block definitions.

Gmail Manager is great too, my wife and I both have Gmail accounts and it makes it easy to switch back and forth.  Also, it shows how many new messages I have in the bottom right of my browser, and I'm just one click away from reading 'em.
Title: Firefox browser
Post by: MrBill on May 16, 2006, 09:41:09 PM
Quote
we could have a good stable OS years before Win2000 and w/o M$ "bells and whistles"


Actually we did, and we still do. ;) A couple million copy's still exist on client machines.  

Drawback 1 is OS/2 is for work ... not many today, or then, would put up with a OS that you could not waste time playing games on. OTOH a OS/2 game won game of the year two years in a row ... any windos game ever do that?

But outside of games there was nothing in the apple/windos world that had better software than OS/2.

drawback 2 is OS/2 required you to know something, and or be able to read and follow instructions. It gave you the best lumber, hammer and nails ... but you had to know how to use them ... this required learning, something most were not about to attempt.

This has not changed any today ... Linux offers great promise ... but is a work in progress.
As long as Joe 6 pack continues to worship at the throne of the great god gates, and tilth mightily, they will reap the rewards of the dark ages forever.

Remember ... if you have ever flown on an airplane or used a ATM ... whatever your experience, it WAS NOT brought to you by Mickysoft. ;)

I find it amazing that we fly spacecraft beyond the solar system with a 5 meg dasdy and good code ... windos can't even balance your checkbook in under 300 meg ... what was that about stupid lazy people in large numbers? :D:D:D
Title: Firefox browser
Post by: dmf on May 16, 2006, 11:53:59 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Saintaw
Firefox is the brower's that the closest of all to matching W3C standards, so yes... as a webdev, I'll beg y'all to use Firefox! Opera being the 2nd... I'm not sure about IE7, but if they do it like they have done previous versions...

Elfie: Extentions are like plugins. Most are user made (Make sure you only get certified ones from the mozilla website).


Theres so many security holes in IE7 that even I can find them.
Title: Firefox browser
Post by: flakbait on May 17, 2006, 12:35:39 AM
IE has something like 1,200+ known problems, which is why M$ releases a security "update" every three days. When IE 5 was due for release, M$ had to delay it by six months because of 100,000 known bugs!

Firefox has 24 or so, most of which will be slaughtered in the next release. Some daily builds have removed them all. That's right, a bulletproof browser.

As for extensions... AdBlock and Network Tweak are the only two I've got or ever use. With Adblock you can hit the little "adblock" text in the lower right and manually prevent anything from showing. I block doubleclick and akamai by default; simply stick "http://*.doubleclick.net/*" in the Block box. No more ads from the biggest propaganda site on the 'net. Flash can be selectively turned off, blocked completely, or you can only turn off one or two flash objects.

I've kept IE around only for the non-Firefox sites. When I first hit the 'net in '96 the first browser I downloaded was NS 4. Kept away from M$ crap ever since.



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Title: Firefox browser
Post by: Nilsen on May 17, 2006, 01:15:05 AM
Quote
Originally posted by BlueJ1
I just downloaded opera to give it a try. Gona be hard to swing me from firefox.

EDIT: 3 minutes into using it Im impressed.

EDIT AGAIN: Im in love. Firefox is now my #2 browser.


8.5 or 9b?
Title: Firefox browser
Post by: Dinger on May 17, 2006, 02:11:23 AM
I didn't get Opera at some point because they were charging for it.

Been using Firefox for a couple years now. The only extensions I use are Adblock and a little hack that adds "open this link in IE" to the right-mouse click.

In the last year, the relative number of Firefox-incompatible/IE-only sites has seriously diminished.

And Adblock is awesome. Since I don't have that IE ActiveX BS, I don't have to go through those security popups every time a site has ads. But when activeX gets used for evil, I get to wield the sitewide ban. Take that floating text blocker!
Title: Firefox browser
Post by: Vulcan on May 17, 2006, 03:21:49 AM
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Originally posted by flakbait
IE has something like 1,200+ known problems


And therein lies your false sense of security. How many unknown problems there are in Firefox is the bigger question. The recent cleanup of opensource code by the US Govt they discovered a lot of bugs, many critical. Oh and Firefox has a far more than 24 entries on the Cert vunerability knowledgebase, many of them still current vunerabilities.

Sure I think Microsoft are the evil empire too, but firefox is no bulletproof browser and those who tout as one are swimming in the big kids pool at the deep end.