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Title: P-39
Post by: 68slayr on May 18, 2006, 03:56:42 PM
I bet this has been asked for trillions of times before but i think we could use another tank killer.  So i would like the P-39.
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Title: P-39
Post by: Sikboy on May 18, 2006, 04:02:02 PM
Did the M4 fire AP rounds?

-Sik
Title: P-39
Post by: 68slayr on May 18, 2006, 04:47:51 PM
i got a few pics

http://www.richard-seaman.com/Aircraft/AirShows/Holloman2005/Highlights/P39.jpg


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:P-39.jpg
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Title: P-39
Post by: Krusty on May 18, 2006, 05:41:58 PM
What Sikboy is saying is that the P39 is not a tank killer. The 37mm it carried was a HE round, just a large cannon, couldn't penetrate tanks' armor.
Title: P-39
Post by: Urchin on May 18, 2006, 05:57:36 PM
Still be good to have.  

Rather have a unicycle for the ground game though.
Title: P-39
Post by: Airscrew on May 18, 2006, 07:27:12 PM
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Originally posted by Sikboy
Did the M4 fire AP rounds?

-Sik


Sik, where did you find it was an M4 37mm gun?  some of the stuff I'm finding says T9.  So far I haven't found any ballistic information or rounds used for the M4 or the T9
Title: P-39
Post by: E25280 on May 18, 2006, 07:52:01 PM
I think the Airacobra pre-dated the Yak-9T.  Anyone "in the know" have any idea if the lend-lease versions of the p-39 inspired the Russians to mount the 37mm in the Yak?
Title: P-39
Post by: hubsonfire on May 18, 2006, 07:52:23 PM
There was a great p-39 thread in here somewhere from eons ago, I'm trying to find it now. IIRC, they were equipped with several different varieties of those large cannons, and there were several manufacturers, and performance was all over the place. Too bad you can't search by model numbers in here. I'll link that thread if I can find it.

here's one

http://www.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=159456

taken from this thread

http://www.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=159456


Jeez, the search tool is a PITA sometimes.
Title: P-39
Post by: Sikboy on May 19, 2006, 01:26:39 PM
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Originally posted by Airscrew
Sik, where did you find it was an M4 37mm gun?  some of the stuff I'm finding says T9.  So far I haven't found any ballistic information or rounds used for the M4 or the T9


Actually Airscrew, I was just going from Memory. I think the T9 is the same gun as the M4, but with a different manufacturer? I could be totally off.

-Sik
Title: P-39
Post by: 68slayr on May 19, 2006, 04:17:44 PM
Ohh  i thought it was AP  nvm    It would still be a good adition to the game.  I hear it was a good low altitude fighter
Title: P-39
Post by: Sikboy on May 19, 2006, 05:19:15 PM
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Originally posted by 68slayr
Ohh  i thought it was AP  nvm    It would still be a good adition to the game.  I hear it was a good low altitude fighter


I imagine the P-400 would find a place in the MA as well as the AvA and events. But I don't believe there was ever a US made 37mm that was worth the metal it was made out of.

-Sik
Title: P-39
Post by: LePaul on May 19, 2006, 05:57:37 PM
Better Info & Wiki link (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/P-39_Airacobra)
Title: P-39
Post by: Phtom on May 20, 2006, 03:59:59 PM
I love the P39!  We have one here in Niagara Falls at our museum as Bell Areospace made them here. As for the T-9 37mm cannon, it was created by Oldsmobile (no joke) and the Usaaaf called it by M-4, and fired the one seen below, the 145R.
(http://www.quarry.nildram.co.uk/MCRel5.jpg)
Fired through this nose hub:
(http://www169.pair.com/jcat/jason/flying/niagara/p39_hub.jpg)

This plane really did pack a punch though.  As well as the 37mm it had two .50 cals in the nose, and four .30 cals out on the wings!

Too bad Bell Aerospace took out the original super turbocharger.
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