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Title: Gas taxes: Europe vs U.S.
Post by: Ripsnort on May 18, 2006, 07:16:01 PM
Holy cow, I knew they were high, but never realized...

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Tax on Mobility
Average price of a gallon of gas, including tax, on April 10,2006

..........................Pri ce          Tax
Belgium ..............$6.10       $3.77
Britain..... ...........$6.13       $4.03
France................$5.80        $3.65
Germany............$5.96        $3.82
Italy...................$5.91         $3.57
Netherlands..... $6.73         $4.12

U.S.*... $2.98 $0.38

* Average for 50 states
Source: Energy Information Administration


I will NEVER ***** about what I percieved as high gas taxes again!
Title: Gas taxes: Europe vs U.S.
Post by: john9001 on May 18, 2006, 07:54:10 PM
europeans can afford it , they all rich. driving around in their BMW, Mercedes-Benz, Rolls Royce, Ferraris.
Title: Gas taxes: Europe vs U.S.
Post by: Ripsnort on May 18, 2006, 09:26:56 PM
The Dutch have the dubious distinction of paying the most to fill 'er up, according to the U.S. Deptatment of Energy. (There are various agencies that track gasoline prices, but these are among the most recent figures available.) As of April 10, drivers in the Netherlands were paying the equivalent of about $6.73 a gallon at the pump. The gas itself cost $2.61; the rest  — $4.12 — represented tax. That’s a 158 percent tax.

OUCH! 158% !?! I guess my Global Warmer wouldn't sell very well in the Netherlands, 460 ci @ 11 mpg highway.
Title: Gas taxes: Europe vs U.S.
Post by: DiabloTX on May 18, 2006, 09:36:30 PM
Somewhere, some time tonight...beet1le's head just exploded....
Title: Gas taxes: Europe vs U.S.
Post by: Mr Big on May 18, 2006, 09:48:03 PM
High taxes on fuel in Europe are needed. It makes people "save" fuel :lol
Title: Gas taxes: Europe vs U.S.
Post by: 2bighorn on May 18, 2006, 09:49:29 PM
Yeah, but Dutch can cross the country with just a gallon. Cheap I would say :D
Title: Gas taxes: Europe vs U.S.
Post by: beet1e on May 19, 2006, 02:26:11 AM
There are other taxes that make fuel pale into insignificance. I was told that in Holland, there is a 100% tax on the price of a new car. I haven't looked into this, but I'm told that car companies have to price their cars to allow for the tax and make their products affordable to the motoring public. The tax is not payable by people from other EU states, which explains why many UK car buyers import their vehicles from Holland. Denmark is another example - a few years ago it was possible to buy a Renault Laguna for about half the price it would cost in some other EU states.

Rip - your table shows gasoline prices, but in most EU states, diesels are hugely popular, and diesel fuel costs about ¾ of what gasoline costs. In Austria and Italy, diesels account for ~60% of all cars sold.

As for tax on mobility, some US states (eg. California) charge a swingeing amount of money just to register your new car, based on its purchase price - amongst other factors. I just visited the California Department of Motor Vehicles website at http://www.dmv.ca.gov/dmv.htm and ran a calculation to find out how much it would cost to register a brand new $30,000 gasoline powered car in a town like Richmond, not too far from Dixon!

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Holy tax on mobility! I knew it was high, but I never knew it was this high. $2734? :O  I shall never complain about my £120 annual tax disc fee ever again! :lol Sheesh, $2734 would be enough for two years worth of fuel for most motorists in Britain - even at UK prices. That's about what I spend in a year at current prices, and I do ~20,000 miles annually.
Title: Gas taxes: Europe vs U.S.
Post by: beet1e on May 19, 2006, 02:29:54 AM
See Rule #5, #2
Title: Gas taxes: Europe vs U.S.
Post by: Thud on May 19, 2006, 05:39:11 AM
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Originally posted by 2bighorn
Yeah, but Dutch can cross the country with just a gallon. Cheap I would say :D


True, here virtually any vehicle can cross the entire country on a single tank, if not twice. If the US would have such gas prices noone would ever get out of ones county, let alone anywhere else.
Title: Gas taxes: Europe vs U.S.
Post by: Captain Virgil Hilts on May 19, 2006, 06:42:05 AM
See Rule #2
Title: Gas taxes: Europe vs U.S.
Post by: Skuzzy on May 19, 2006, 07:09:58 AM
This has been beat to the point, the horse is a pile of dust.