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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: Jake54 on May 23, 2006, 10:16:52 AM
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What made you guys like WW2 and flying?
I loved WW2 because I saw the movie Pearl Harbor when I was a kid and never stoped watching it! And flying well when I was a kid I went flying on airlines ALOT! My mom told me when we were landing I always looked out the window and saw the blinking lights and my head went back and forth for each light lol. So the movie Pearl Harbor is about 75% of what got me like to fly.
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thread i made a while back:
http://www.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=128177&highlight=started
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I grew up on war movies like Battle of the Bulge , Midway, and lots of older ones. Ive always loved the story of the air war in ww2. Im a big history buff, and this game is the thing Id dream of as a teenager. Wondering if someday we could fly in planes against real people and re-create some of what happened back then.
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The movie "Pearl Harbour"..?
Don't you mean "Tora Tora Tora"..?
I blame my AHness on that flick..:D
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Started watching alot of history channel, and what awwed me was the amount of destruction and lives taken during that war........idk sumthing about 80 divisions fighting it out on a front.......massive......:aok
the marines made me this way, wasnt born into it.......:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :t
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I dont know at all... when we first got DTV i watched the history channel and the airforce(?) channel wich is now the military channel...ive always loved aviation:aok
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You watched Pearl Harbour as "a kid"?
FYI...you still ARE a kid then. ;-)
Sgt. Rock comics got me interested in WW2.
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http://www.wtv-zone.com/badcompany/index.1.html
Goto my website and you'll see why.
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John Wayne movies as a kid, the TV show "BaBa Black Sheep" as a older kid.
Now I see the WWII birds like the classic cars of the 50's. Their just cool.
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when i was a Little Roo we used to go past this Corsair that lived at this small air field ... well one day My Grandpa and I stopped ..Well he knew the owner and all that (i think he knew everyone) and well I got to pet it and sit in it .. I've had the Fever ever since.
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I always enjoyed seeing the love in pictures that were taken by squadrons. Bundle of kinds around 18-19 years old brought together from all around the world, and this somehow portrayed a picture of care for one another.. And post-war WWII veterans these days still talk about their early days, and remember all those that died, and don't feel ashamed to shed tears for them. Shows me that this was much much more than just a bunch of kids flying and killing for the heck of it, they were there to protect each other. Which is much deeper than their civic duties. This truly entitles them to limitless respect from me.
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Hey is Jake54 really SkyChimp? :cool:
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I grew up hearing the stories some of my uncles told, I had one who earned the silver & bronze star & a few purple hearts in WWII & he didn't mind talking about it. He was actually my great uncle but we don't make a distinction in my family.
I then got into reading Sgt.Rock & many other war comics & I watched the heck out of every war movie made, & Baa Baa Blacksheep caused me to fall in love with the graceful lines of the gull winged corsair. That plane looks fast & deadly sitting still on the tarmac.
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My Grandfather flew the P-51D and the P-47 in normandy and Asia He would always tell me that I would be a fighter pilot but they have jets now and there is no shivelry in shooting a man 10 miles away with a rocket i call that chicken. My father was a Marine In Viet-Nam and he used to tell me about the Bah Bah black sheep and he would set down and watch the show with me so I got hooked at that point.
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As a kid, I grew up near a small airfield and every year they would have airshows. My father & I would go up and see the WWII birds and I was hooked. F4U's have always been my favorite planes along with P40's & P38's... The Confederate Air Force also would bring up some of their vintage Bombers. Those were awesome to see flying over my house in Colorado with the Mountains not far away. It was pretty damn cool.
Plus with the classic movies that were out I can never get enough of them even tho my favorite WWII movie was Patton....lol
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Originally posted by Curval
You watched Pearl Harbour as "a kid"?
FYI...you still ARE a kid then. ;-)
Sgt. Rock comics got me interested in WW2.
Maybe he was talking about Tora Tora Tora :-)
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I just like to HO and Pick. My love of HOing started when I used to play chicken with the neighborhood kids in our bikes. My affinity for picking surfaced one day when I was playing laser tag with my friends. It was a free for all death match and two of my buddies were having a fantastic fight downstairs. They must not have seen me when I ran from upstairs and got them both with my Laser Tag Grenade.
I fly the P38 because it has 2 Engines. 2 is better than one right?
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P38 is nothing more than a twin engined bomber.
:D
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A little game call "Aces over Europe".
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I watch the history and Military channel 24/7 and the Movie Pearl Harbour made me cry after the japs left and the sad music was playing when the dead bodies were floating around. And the last part when ray lost his best friend danny because a jap shot him that made me cry:cry but when I heard about the 2 atoms that bombed japan I was cheering!:D but it was sad:(
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As a 6 yr old kid walking to school i noticed lots of iron fences cut off at the roots. Dad said it was about the war effort. Many of the factories were still camouflaged Dunlop, Herberts, Jaguar, and Alvis. Some houses were missing and the towns cathedral was just a shell.
So there was a war ummm not knights in armour and long bows this time. Christmass I got Airfix kitts of fighter planes. So there was a war umm not muskets and lines of red coated men shooting at lines of blue coated men (french). I got air fix ships later not sailing ships with rigging but big turreted things.
Then late in the family parties dad would talk about collecting shrapnel off the street. Talk about being smuffered by his mum under the kitchen table as the bombs came in. About old Mrs so an so getting a direct hit and all his house windows being blown in. Uncle would talk about the stick of bombs that ploughed his dads fields.
So there was a big war and we won. TV, comics, history at school and Air Fix shaped my early years in the 60's then some 30 yrs later I was bored with trawling the net and thought "i know, I'll down load a game". Was looking for pin ball but found "AOL Fighter Ops". All that stuff as a kid came back and bingo .....take that in the face you dirty Fokker in the 109:D
P.S When I cleared my late farthers home I came across a dimmino box crambed with the very shrapnel my dad had collected. I still have it.
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The wwii Casualties by country
Axis ww2 casualties
Country Military casualties / Civilian casualties
Germany 3.250.000 / 3.810.000
Austria 230.000 / 80.000
Italy 330.000 / 85.000
Rumania 200.000 / 465.000
Hungary 120.000 / 280.000
Bulgaria 10.000 / 7.000
Finland 90.000 / n/a
Japan 1.700.000 / 360.000
Allied ww2 casualties
Country Military casualties / Civilian casualties
British Empire and Commonwealth 452.000 / 60.000
France 250.000 / 360.000
USA 295.000 ---
Soviet Union 13.600.000 / 7.700.000
Belgium 10.000 / 90.000
Holland 10.000 / 190.000
Norway 10.000 / n/a
Poland 120.000 / 5.300.000
Greece 20.000 / 80.000
Yugoslavia 300.000 / 1.300.000
Checoslovaquia 20.000 / 330.000
China 3.500.000 / 10.000.000
Over 54 mil dead
Cool hardware
B****in' paint jobs
What's not to like
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Being in a Navy squadron, seeing the old WWII, Korean and vietnam pictures of my squad in the ready room among other places, quarterdeck etc...
learning to work on radial engines, then joiningthe Navy becoming a jetmech......
watching 12 O'Clock High , Baa Baa Black Sheep among other series and also WW2 movies........
reading At Dawn We Slept, Battle Of Midway, reading "the Official World War II Guide to the Army Air Forces AAF ( A Directory/Almanac/Chronicle of Achievements - completely indexed ) explains how the AAF made it possible from Training to equipment manufacturing and shipping to the front lines ( Excellent Guide/ read ) 1988 edition's ISBN 0-517-66803-3 (orginally published 1944/45)
sitting and listening to relatives who was there, listening to different people I have met through the years who were gunners mates on a ship or a B17 tail gunner, or a F6F5 flyer...etc...
serious addiction to military prop aircraft and the people who flew them regardless of what country they fought for....
not wanting to forget or let others forget of what it was once like, verses today's technology, then the shear enjoyment of being able to immerse myself as if I was in a true dog fight and flying one of these magnificant birds of prey......
hmm....that bout sums it up for me :)
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I wanted to be a fighter pilot but my eyesight didn't cut it. So they asked if I
wanted to fly around underwater so I went submarines:eek:
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Originally posted by Jake54
What made you guys like WW2 and flying?
I loved WW2 because I saw the movie Pearl Harbor when I was a kid and never stoped watching it! And flying well when I was a kid I went flying on airlines ALOT! My mom told me when we were landing I always looked out the window and saw the blinking lights and my head went back and forth for each light lol. So the movie Pearl Harbor is about 75% of what got me like to fly.
That movie sucked.
Welcome to adolescence. Things will begin to change for you soon. Especially hair.
Just kiddin.
(not about the movie though. It really did suck)
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I died behind the right seat of a C-47...at the hands of treachery.
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Originally posted by Mustaine
You know the golden rule: **** the gold. He who has a nickel-plated makes the rules. - (name the character for a prize)
Murphy in 3000 Miles to Graceland. (Kevin Costner).
What do I win?
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P38 is nothing more than a twin engined bomber.
:furious :furious :mad:
:p
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2 books
The Sweinfert Regensburg Mission - by MArtin Middlebrook
.heart breaker..INSANE...bad things happen when timelines arent met
Ploesti- by Dugan and Stewart
Bomber Pilot by Phillip Ardery
my grandfather was a test pilot during ww2...I have always loved flying..then after i solo'd I reallly love flying...nothn better then the sound of those radials..well turbo props are pretty nice too
then I started reading the Submarines....first the u-boots..then the US's subs..WOW...insane books...Steel Coffin..Thunder Below...ect..INSANE
What these people did back then..blows my mind..even compared to today
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oh yaa..back in 5th grade..playing Beeeee...SEVENTEEN ....BOOOOOOMer
on Commodore..with Intelivoice..I think thats what it was called
first game consule with a voice...Bandits...12 OKLOK....FLAK...FLAK....
what a great game
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My father took me to a local barn that had a SBD under restoration . Between that and the Black sheep squadron series , i was bitten . Hope my 1-1/2 year old son doesnt think daddys a nut job when he realizes all the little diecast and plastic warbirds arent his . 8)
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Originally posted by KONG1
The wwii Casualties by country
Axis ww2 casualties
Country Military casualties / Civilian casualties
Germany 3.250.000 / 3.810.000
Austria 230.000 / 80.000
Italy 330.000 / 85.000
Rumania 200.000 / 465.000
Hungary 120.000 / 280.000
Bulgaria 10.000 / 7.000
Finland 90.000 / n/a
Japan 1.700.000 / 360.000
Allied ww2 casualties
Country Military casualties / Civilian casualties
British Empire and Commonwealth 452.000 / 60.000
France 250.000 / 360.000
USA 295.000 ---
Soviet Union 13.600.000 / 7.700.000
Belgium 10.000 / 90.000
Holland 10.000 / 190.000
Norway 10.000 / n/a
Poland 120.000 / 5.300.000
Greece 20.000 / 80.000
Yugoslavia 300.000 / 1.300.000
Checoslovaquia 20.000 / 330.000
China 3.500.000 / 10.000.000
Over 54 mil dead
Cool hardware
B****in' paint jobs
What's not to like
We lost 295 and the Germans only lost 3 1/4? What the hell?
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A long time ago, and in what seems like another galaxy, a high school teacher of English Lit., trying to get a punk kid interested in reading ANYTHING, assigned me Douglas Bader's "Reach for the Sky" for a report. It worked. After I devoured that, I looked for more: A. Galland's "The First and the Last"; Hans Ulrich Rudel's "Stuka Pilot"; and a book on Typhoons stand out. After that, it was into building model planes and looking for any book, magazine, or movie, about WWII birds I could get my hands on.
Stoopid old teachers! What do they know eh?
I haven't read much about Japanese pilots though. Any suggestions?
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Ive always loved planes as long as I can remember started with plastic models. As I grew older I got more and more interested in history, in general. Then my interest in history got more and more focused on modern history as one can see how it has affected the society we live in today.
Ive also always been very interested in tactics and strategy. Hence wars and battles have always been very interesting.
Ive also always been very much in love with stories about heros. Be it history, fantasy or sf.
Finally my family history during the WW2 is very interesting and horifying. At the time my family lived in Prague and was a jewish catholic family. Basicly 95% of the jewish part of the family didnt survive the war. The catholic part of the family worked very activly in hiding and smugling jews out of the country.
Its this background that makes me really uneasy flying german planes.
The games that got me hooked on ww2 sims where "Aces over Europe" and "Aces over the Pacific".
Tex
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I got into it young. My Grandfather was a mechanic working on f4-u at Quonset Point. He had all kinds of picture of them and the bombers (cant remember which bombers) that were assembled there.
All of the WWII movies made throughout the 50's and 60's along with Baa Baa Black Sheep also helped.
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Biggles story books, Blue Max game on the 286, Dawn Patrol game, RAF museums, BoB tirbute flyby, watching big birds of prey and most importantly; 1001 vivid dreams in the depths of sleep where I can spread my arms and lift off the ground (as long as i dont think about it too hard)
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in 2nd grade i had an hernia oporation, when i was lying in bed at home a friend bought me a plastic model plane, think that was the trigger.
exept that i was always interested in history, esp. wars.
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Memphis Belle got me interested in planes... I still love that movie.
Aces Over the Pacific was the flight sim that got me hooked on the games.
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Liking? Love? WW2?
What a weird choice of words.
:p
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I was 6 years old when the war started. We used to collect airplane cards that came in the Wings cigarette packs. We tried to identify the different planes that flew over NYC. I remember the air raid sirens and blackouts and air raid wardens shouting at people to put that light out. The scrap drives all the kids helped with. The ten cent victory stamps we bought in school and pasted in our victory book. My grandmother bought a $25.00 victory bond for me which I never cashed in and still have. I remember the annoucement in school that allied forces have landed on the beaches in France and we all prayed for them. The blue and sometimes gold star flags in a lot of apartment windows. The pictures of well over 100 guys in the window of the local A.C. club of the guys in uniform and the souvenirs they sent home. Helmuts, pistols, swords, bayonets and flags. I remember the VE and VJ day celebrations in the city.
I saw Guadalcanal Diary when it first came out and have probably seen every WW2 movie that was ever made.
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Because chicks in this era wore them H. O. T. stockings with the seam up the back. Why else?
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Oh ya how could I forget Sgt Rock comics and Baa Baa Blacksheep?
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Originally posted by SirLoin
P38 is nothing more than a twin engined bomber.
:D
Ow, that hurts, but you just might be right:confused:
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"Because chicks in this era wore them H. O. T. stockings with the seam up the back. Why else?"
Oh yeah! :aok
http://www.skylighters.org/sweethearts/bgindex.html
http://www.skylighters.org/photos/pinups.html
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Originally posted by scottydawg
Murphy in 3000 Miles to Graceland. (Kevin Costner).
What do I win?
a pat on the back and a WTG :aok honestly wtg that one took like over a month for someone to figure out.
will put new one up in a few minutes
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Originally posted by Curval
Sgt. Rock comics got me interested in WW2.
Chicken --- Egg (for me)
I loved the OAAW series of which Sgt Rock was a spin-off. I had 294 of the first 300 issues of the series, my mom threw them out while I was in college :t
They would not be worth as much as the superhero ones are but they were worth more than that to me...sniff.
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I was 6 or 7, my dad took the family to the Old Rhinebeck Aerodrome (http://www.oldrhinebeck.org/about.htm) for the show. I fell in love with airplanes and forever dreamt of flying.
A few years later I found this game on a friends mac, that let you expieriance flying. MS Flight Sim or Something LOL. It was all wire frame still. It took me all night to learn the controls. Mind you I had no manual and just hunt an pecked for controls and keys. My friend didn't even know it was on there LOL. But I got it flying LOL.
Then came Jet, then Aces of the Pacific.
The best airplanes evah, Greatest Generation, Last World War = WWII.
The rest is history.:D
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Originally posted by Flyboy
in 2nd grade i had an hernia oporation, when i was lying in bed at home a friend bought me a plastic model plane, think that was the trigger.
exept that i was always interested in history, esp. wars.
That was very kind =) when I had me appendix taken out I got a toy biplane.:aok :cool:
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Originally posted by Charge
"Because chicks in this era wore them H. O. T. stockings with the seam up the back. Why else?"
Oh yeah! :aok
http://www.skylighters.org/sweethearts/bgindex.html
http://www.skylighters.org/photos/pinups.html
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Woot! Cool site. Thanks bud.
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Originally posted by Mustaine
You know the problem with being smart? You always know what will happen next. It ruins the suspense.
- (name the character for a prize)
Bandits
Billy Bob Thornton, playing Terry Lee Collins.
;)
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Originally posted by eh
...snip...
I haven't read much about Japanese pilots though. Any suggestions?
Samurai by Sabura Sakai
Midway by Mitsuo Fuchida and others
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Thanks simaril!
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Read the book pictured below when I was in 2nd grade, which is about 40 years ago now. I think mine was the only name in it to check it out over and over again. Bong, Lynch, McGuire, Gentile, Godfrey, Blakslee, Zemke, Mahurin, Johnson, Boyington, Scott.....the list goes on and on.
I was absolutely hooked and it's been an obsession ever since. The fact that "Combat" and 12 O'Clock High" were both on TV at the time didn't hurt either :)
(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/861_1148496923_bookcover.jpg)
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Guppy,
You gave me major flashbacks there...havent thought abou those books in decades.
I can still see the little library room in my elementary school. must have been 71-72. There was a book with the same format about naval heroes of WW2, or famous ships, or something....cant find the title. One of the chapters was "Hit 'em again, Harder!" about the Gato class USS HArder...musta checked that out a dozen times. LArger than life stories, presented like Knights of the Round Table.
Then we went to the Air Force Museum in Dayton, and that was it.
I devoured every book I could find, like Samurai and Baa Baa Black Sheep. War movies Saturdays. I remember the 12 O'Clock High series reruns, Vic Morrow in COMBAT, and later Baa Baa Black Sheep on TV. Got back to Dayton several more times in school, and when older was captivated by "High Flight" ("...I have slipped the surly bonds of earth, and danced among the clouds with laughter silvered wings....")
Now at family get togethers, my brother and I arent allowed to sit near each other because we'll be lost in our aviation world the whole time....
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I read a book called "Duel For The Sky" in 2nd grade...about 100 times...dealt with all theaters but the stories of Blaksley/Gentile/Johnson are the ones that stuck with me the most...was in the school library...1971 sounds about right.
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Originally posted by Simaril
Guppy,
You gave me major flashbacks there...havent thought abou those books in decades.
I can still see the little library room in my elementary school. must have been 71-72. There was a book with the same format about naval heroes of WW2, or famous ships, or something....cant find the title. One of the chapters was "Hit 'em again, Harder!" about the Gato class USS HArder...musta checked that out a dozen times. LArger than life stories, presented like Knights of the Round Table.
Then we went to the Air Force Museum in Dayton, and that was it.
I devoured every book I could find, like Samurai and Baa Baa Black Sheep. War movies Saturdays. I remember the 12 O'Clock High series reruns, Vic Morrow in COMBAT, and later Baa Baa Black Sheep on TV. Got back to Dayton several more times in school, and when older was captivated by "High Flight" ("...I have slipped the surly bonds of earth, and danced among the clouds with laughter silvered wings....")
Now at family get togethers, my brother and I arent allowed to sit near each other because we'll be lost in our aviation world the whole time....
This might give you another flashback then. Took me years to track down a copy. This was the other book that I couldn't check out enough. First introduced me to Bert Stiles with the bits of "Serenade to the Big Bird" in it. First color photo I'd seen of a 91st BG B17 in it. Lots of artwork with 4th FG Mustangs, B17s, B24s etc. First exposure to "Brewery Wagon" and the B24s of Ploesti. All kinds of photos and stories. It was a gold mine for a kid in the late 60s fascinated with WW2 aviation.
(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/861_1148622993_bookcover2.jpg)
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Pops was a sub lt. commander chasing Boomers around Cuba in the sixties
and was sister ship of the Scorpion for those that know that story
and step father was Air Force pilot,,,and then owned a ferry pilot business
and both very into Military History,,,so i grew up around it
I loved watching WW2 movies as a kid back in the 70's
Studied WW2 aircraft and Navy Ships alot and also went to many air shows
when i started meeting Vets i got even more into it
one of the things right now that i really enjoy is flying Vernon Truemper's
367th P-47-40 skin in the game
since ive corasponded with him many times via email.
btw...367th flew 38J's and Jug D40's ,,,,and they all hated the 38 too ;)
mainly cause so many got hurt or killed trying to bail out
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My father was an early radar guy in the Army Air Corp (ROTC/electrical engineer) and became radar officer in B-17/B-24 squadron in England. That got me interested enough to read "Wingleader" by Johnny Johnson, and "Thunderbolt!" by Robert Johnson as a kid. The cover above about the air war against Hitler strikes vague memories - I know I've read that. To find Air Warrior was a dream come true - I went into withdrawal when EA screwed us over. Then FBScud clued me into Aces High and I'm back on the crack.
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I got interested in WW2 aviation because my grandfather is a WW2 veteran (13th AF, 5 Bomber Group, 394th Squadron).
He was a bombardier in B-24's fighting in the South Pacific. Looking at his old photo's... talking to him about his experience... and trying my best to understand more about what his life was like...That's why I'm here.
That, and I love hearing ghi screeming "VOOLCH VOOLCH!!!" on the range vox
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(Two of the birds my Pop-pop flew in can be seen below, Two-Time and Red Headed Woman... Thank you for your service Pop!)
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y70/BigTon/Two_Time_Kloc_thumb.jpg)
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y70/BigTon/Red_Headed_Woman_BillB.jpg)
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Originally posted by Simaril
Samurai by Sabura Sakai
Midway by Mitsuo Fuchida and others
I Was A Kamikaze also a good book.
learn how to survive a suicide mission & what goes through the head of that kind of guy.
maybe some valuable insight in there...