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Title: KI-67 skins?
Post by: Flayed1 on May 23, 2006, 10:31:17 AM

I was just wondering if anyone had the time or felt like doing this?
(http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Runway/9601/kurita3.jpg)
This is a pic of Lt. Shuho Kuritas' KI-67 the White Tiger , Imperial Japanese Army Air Force 1941-45

 I don't know the exact colors as I can't find many color photos but if anyone has some good books?? I would assume it's a similar color to the one we have in game but I have seen a few pic's here and there of them done in dark green paint.  

  I just thought it might be good to have a historic skin with some actual art on it even if it's not much.

  Also I was wondering if the KI-67 evar had an orange skin like the G4M2 Betty did?  I think it would be fun to fly around in my bright orange target drones :D

  Anyway just a thought/request for anyone who might be intrested. I would do it myself but after a few attempts I found that skinning was not my thing. :)

Title: Old Thread, New Request
Post by: Hwkeye on June 02, 2007, 01:47:04 PM

Yo Skinners one and all!

Lately I have gotten into flying the "Peggy" for some of my buff sorties.  The default skin is great but as they say 'variety is the spice of life!' and I would like to add my voice to those that would like to see a second skin for the KI-67.

I found this link http://www.modelingmadness.com/scotts/axis/j/ki67.htm that has a nice rendition of a KI that I thought would be nice addition.

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b132/LERobinson1/ki67i.jpg)

This KI-67 appears to have a white tail and would be very nice to have but I have been unable to find any other references or detailed paint scheme to help you all out.

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b132/LERobinson1/ki67-1.jpg)

Anyone up for the challenge?

Title: KI-67 skins?
Post by: Larry on June 02, 2007, 01:51:11 PM

I started on a Ki67 awhile back. I stoped because its 256x and I didnt know how the panel lines and rivets were. I am pretty much done with my skins, and have about three that buddies want me to do. If you find me some nice high res pics of panel lines and rivets Ill do a few of them like I did with the Ar234.:aok

Title: Does this help Larry
Post by: Hwkeye on June 02, 2007, 04:46:42 PM

No rivet info but the panel lines are there.  I would use whatever the Default level of detail is short of I (or someone else) finding more detailed info.  Of course I'll keep looking!


(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b132/LERobinson1/mitsubishi_ki-67.gif)

Title: KI-67 skins?
Post by: Larry on June 02, 2007, 04:53:35 PM

Yes. All I need is panel lines I can "wing" the rivets if you cant find anything. Will try to start out as soon as I can. I do about 3-5 skins all at once so give me about 5-7days and Ill start with the pics.

Title: Well from one Larry...
Post by: Hwkeye on June 02, 2007, 09:20:35 PM

to another Larry, all I can say is "Woo Hoo!"

You make 'em I'll fly 'em!

Title: KI-67 skins?
Post by: Larry on June 03, 2007, 04:57:59 AM

Heres a preview. There are no "effects" on the lines or rivets yet, just showing you how its ganna look like. I jsut started on the rivets on the wings so thats why they are only on half it. Once I finnish everything Im thinking of doing three mabey four if we can get some different shemes. As I said before Im working on a few skins right now, so one day I work on one another day I do a different one. Reason I do this is because I found that if I work one one alot I dont realize I made a mistake. That way the first time I open it in a few days I notice things that I didnt when I was working on it last time.:aok

Flayed Post some pics of the one you want.

Heres the one Im ganna do for myself.

http://wp.scn.ru/en/ww2/b/1030/65/1/1




(http://www.fileden.com/files/2007/4/24/1013733/Kiwng.jpg)

Title: KI-67 skins?
Post by: Larry on June 03, 2007, 05:57:18 AM

Heres another I would like to do.




http://wp.scn.ru/en/ww2/b/1030/65/0/10

Title: KI-67 skins?
Post by: Fencer51 on June 03, 2007, 08:15:06 AM

Well Larry as a fellow substandard skinner :rolleyes:, I would like to thank you for helping add needed additional skins on a much used aircraft! :aok

Title: KI-67 skins?
Post by: Larry on June 03, 2007, 08:26:08 AM

Yea I like building skins that no one else wants to do. Its ganna be a challange because some parts overlap as it is with most really old planes.

Title: The Cami version is phat!
Post by: Hwkeye on June 03, 2007, 07:22:57 PM

:cool:

Title: KI-67 skins?
Post by: Larry on June 04, 2007, 01:55:40 PM

Rivets and panel lines are done on the top wings, top Hstab, Vstab and body. I just need the bottem wing and bottem Hstab and I can start work on the painting. Heres a pic of what it looks like with the effects. (I put a gray back ground so you can see it easier.


Edit: I didnt want to put to much rivets or it would be to cluttered.



(http://www.fileden.com/files/2007/4/24/1013733/wingki67.jpg)

Title: KI-67 skins?
Post by: Krusty on June 04, 2007, 02:09:18 PM

I'd seriously find a real source that shows camouflage before doing that other profile.

scn.ru steals their images from everywhere, including unreliable sources. They can be downright inaccurate or misleading, or just off on all colors.

I looked for Ki67 skins a long long time ago, and there were none that weren't 99% identical to the default. That includes the "tiger" skin -- the tiger being about 10 pixels long on the bitmap itself, the rest being unchanged (wasn't worth doing).

Title: KI-67 skins?
Post by: Larry on June 04, 2007, 02:24:28 PM

Heres what they have.


Ki-67 Prototype
Unit: Rikugun Koku Shinsa-bu (Army Aviation Experimental Department)
Serial: 2
Ki-67 Prototype No.2 at Kagamigahara Army Air Base, Gifu Prefecture, February 1943.

Artist: © Rikyu Watanabe
Source: 'Army type 4 Heavy Bomber Hiryu (Ki-67 Peggy)', Famous Airplanes of the World No.98, Bunrindo Co.

Title: KI-67 skins?
Post by: Krusty on June 04, 2007, 02:47:25 PM

Well, even if there's some basis behind it, prototypes rarely saw action. I saw a LOT of WW2 pictures when I was searching. All were a single solid color. Just like what we have.

I don't mean to put a damper on things, but it's like doing a post-war racer skin on a spit. Or a captured skin on a 190d. It's just not the same.

Title: KI-67 skins?
Post by: Larry on June 05, 2007, 04:06:04 AM

Ill try and do it anyways if they dont take it, its no big deal. Im ready to start painting. Hawk do you have the squad that yours was in?


Okay I found it.

Ki-67
Unit: Kakegawa shimbu-tai (Special Attack Unit)
Serial: 042


 http://wp.scn.ru/en/ww2/b/1030/65/0/4



Is that just me or is that radar rods sticking out of the side of that plane.
:D

Title: Hey Larry
Post by: Hwkeye on June 05, 2007, 03:36:55 PM

I am with you...proceed!  I have seen a few skins of questionable origin or color scheme (or or two LA skins come to mind) and they are in the game.  Can you and I help it that the Japanese didn't have color cameras?

Title: KI-67 skins?
Post by: Larry on June 05, 2007, 03:59:24 PM

That and most japanese planes were distroyed at the end and after the war.

Title: KI-67 skins?
Post by: Krusty on June 05, 2007, 04:07:15 PM

You don't need color cameras to see camouflage.

Most German craft were destroyed at the end of the war too, but there's ample evidence showing off many camo styles.

Not that this applies to that last profile, just sayin'.... :D

Title: Personally,
Post by: Hwkeye on June 05, 2007, 05:49:50 PM

I am glad all you skinners try your hardest to be accurate.  Don't stop doing 'that voodoo you do so well'! ;)

Title: KI-67 skins?
Post by: Fencer51 on June 05, 2007, 07:42:35 PM

Here is what ya need.

http://www.schifferbooks.com/newschiffer/book_template.php?isbn=0764303503 (http://www.schifferbooks.com/newschiffer/book_template.php?isbn=0764303503)

Title: KI-67 skins?
Post by: Fencer51 on June 05, 2007, 07:54:14 PM

Quote

Originally posted by Krusty
Well, even if there's some basis behind it, prototypes rarely saw action. I saw a LOT of WW2 pictures when I was searching. All were a single solid color. Just like what we have.

Quote

Originally posted by Krusty

I'd seriously find a real source that shows camouflage before doing that other profile.

Will this do Larry?

Title: KI-67 skins?
Post by: Karnak on June 05, 2007, 10:15:02 PM

Quote

Originally posted by Larry
Is that just me or is that radar rods sticking out of the side of that plane.
:D

Yup.  There are a number of different aircraft the Japanese put surface search radar on later in the war.

Title: KI-67 skins?
Post by: Larry on June 06, 2007, 04:45:13 AM

Thats one perdy plane :D

Title: KI-67 skins?
Post by: Larry on June 06, 2007, 08:11:43 AM

Heres a little preview. Also showing yet another problem with how the Ki's model is setup. Its nothing to big, just makes it look alittle wierd.




(http://www.fileden.com/files/2007/4/24/1013733/042Ki1.jpg)

Title: KI-67 skins?
Post by: Krusty on June 06, 2007, 09:14:28 AM

Sweet photo, Fencer!


On a different, but-slightly-relate-note, has HTC ever accepted any prototype skins into AH to date? I mean if he's got the template from his other Ki it can't hurt to try it, but color me skeptical.

Title: KI-67 skins?
Post by: Larry on June 06, 2007, 09:21:08 AM

Im ganna paint it and try to submit it anyways. If they dont let it in its no big deal.:aok

Title: KI-67 skins?
Post by: Krusty on June 06, 2007, 09:41:23 AM

:aok

Title: KI-67 skins?
Post by: Fencer51 on June 06, 2007, 03:42:06 PM

Why do you guys think that is a prototype?  Looks like a second KI-67 next to it in the same camo scheme.

Title: KI-67 skins?
Post by: Krusty on June 06, 2007, 03:59:39 PM

There can be more than 1 prototype :)

It's unlike any standard, and apparently the book that scn.ru scanned it from says it's a prototype. This is one of the entries that actually has a reference in it, that Larry already posted:

"Ki-67 Prototype
Unit: Rikugun Koku Shinsa-bu (Army Aviation Experimental Department)
Serial: 2
Ki-67 Prototype No.2 at Kagamigahara Army Air Base, Gifu Prefecture, February 1943.

Artist: © Rikyu Watanabe
Source: 'Army type 4 Heavy Bomber Hiryu (Ki-67 Peggy)', Famous Airplanes of the World No.98, Bunrindo Co."


EDIT: P.S. I bet the one behind it is prototype No. 1, in the photo!

Title: Did you ever finish the skins Larry??
Post by: Hwkeye on June 14, 2007, 06:09:24 PM

Will you do the Cami one as well?  :confused:

Title: Larry...
Post by: Hwkeye on July 01, 2007, 07:11:46 PM

SITREP on the KI skin(s) you were working on??

Title: KI-67 skins?
Post by: Larry on July 01, 2007, 08:21:41 PM

Iv been real busy this last month. Ill try to get them done has soon as I can.