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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Boroda on October 25, 2001, 12:35:00 PM
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I'll post the source link after I'll see some opinions about this article. I'm especially interested in Eagler's opinion.
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America is infected by communism
Ancient eastern wisdom says: «Winner of a dragon turns himself to be a dragon». Americans in due time have broken Empire of Evil, a stronghold of communism. It is possible that they acted not always fairly and under the law, but without their participation of the colossus of Soviet Union hardly would be prostrate. And equally after ten years (1991-2001), USA becomes new Empire of Evil. America is infected by communism. And all goes as if on Mayakovski. «Under Wall street tunnel - subway and if to fill it with dynamite and to start up all this street on air to devilish hog! Wrote red poet in «My opening of America», - fly up in air of the book of records of endowment, names and series of uncountable actions for columns of foreign debts.. Wall street is first capital, capital of the American dollars». And has taken place, only attack been from the sky.
Communism has established in USA. But this communism is not from ancient dreams, but from modern nightmares. The Political bureau only named council of national security, and KGB - Committee of national security. Shoot not bullets, but cruise missiles. «Pravda» has been replaced with name of CNN.
Present struggle against international terrorism strongly looks like the struggle of Soviet for damages control and their panders. In what is the difference, class enemies became enemies of «civilized world». And in a result, struggle with terrible, but the abstract opponent appeared in aggression against Islamic Emirates of Afghanistan, which since all five years of its history never participated in a single war outside the territory. Americans battle with the imagined opponent, and thus real blood is shed of the sons of Adam.
If it occurred at a personal level, we would name the similar aggressive person as a seat of the Shaitan (Satan). But these events have global scale.
USA already conduct struggle against dissidents at a global level. «Who is not with us, means against us» - is declared by their leaders. Their propagation does not concede than that of Soviet. It is enough to listen to CNN for 10 minutes. They announce, that they are not at war with Islam, but with terrorism. Whether among terrorists, there were citizens of Islamic Emirates of Afghanistan? So why are bombs and rockets falling on Kandahar, Kabul and Jalalabad? Whether those killed in Afghanistan are not Muslims? Or in state department of USA, they offer namaz better, than those in Kandahar?
USA is strong and is proud of their force, but whether somebody thought, that USSR will fall so quickly? Americans have been infected by communism. They will carry out repressions in the world scale and pursue heterodoxies. They have chosen destiny of the USSR, means their year 1991 is any more not behind mountains.
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Yawn.
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What?
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Any ideas on who wrote it?
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No.
seems to have little if any connection to the place where i live.
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No matter who wrote it, even with the glaring attempt to be as abstract as possible (lest their great declaration become bogged down by reality), it's a sad display of inaccuracies trying to make an enemy out of nothing.
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They announce, that they are not at war with Islam, but with terrorism. Whether among terrorists, there were citizens of Islamic Emirates of Afghanistan? So why are bombs and rockets falling on Kandahar, Kabul and Jalalabad? Whether those killed in Afghanistan are not Muslims?
In stimple terms, for the person who wrote this piece has obvious lack of logical thinking: they harboured the leader, source of inspiration and the chief financier of those how piloted the planes killing thousands in the States. When asked to surrender him for justice they refused.
The Kabul is a capital city, other towns listed are the strongholds of the ruling regime. The idea of the war is to topple that regime.
Those killed in Afganistan are probably muslims although reports of "hundereds of civilian casualties" are very difficult to verify since "fighters" don't wear uniforms and have reportedly moved into residential areas. Hundreds of those who died in WTC were muslims too.
The centre of all anti-muslim evilness, the USA, have been funding 75% of all food help sent to the country ravished into starvation by it's "holy" rulers. With the rest of the allegedly ever so brotherly Muslim world could not give a monkey's arse whether their "brothers" they now feel for so much would live or die. Pakistan being the only notable exception.
2 + 2 is still 4, regardless of how many times one tries to make it into 3 or 5 or some other number.
Who wrote this piece?
p.s. References to Mayakovski don't work, especially when taken out of context, proper time frame or even explaining to the reader who the guy actually was... I doubt many in the West have even heard of him. (He was a Russian poet back in early 1900s, very exitable, young, embrased the Revolution, wrote many poems and blew his brains out while still young)
p.p.s. Americans maybe a screwy nation in many respects and one can disagree with many things they do but what they do now is IMHO right and they even doing it trying to be as delicate as possible about it which is amazing knowing what they have suffered and what they could have done by now under "to hell with the rest of the world's opinion" banner.
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The trick boroda is to kill off entire cultures and populations without doing harm to your own people. Who cares about capitalism or socialism. When all is said and done and this world is just a dark cold lifeless rock, the society that survived the longest will have spoken english.
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hmmm I dont know if the US will last longer than the Roman empire :)
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needs pronouns.
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"The House approved legislation yesterday to give police new search powers in response to last month's terrorist attacks, including the ability to secretly search homes, tap all of a person's telephone conversations and track people's use of the Internet."
By Jesse J. Holland
THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
Hmmm, looks like we're descending into some kind of dysfunctional, Jerry's kid type of society.
Don't fret though; remember the purpose of all nightmares is to make you wake up. If you can't "realize" it then you have to "experience" it.
So in the meantime......Embrace The Horror!
Sieg Heil! ;)
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Ok, time to go now.
It's from the Chechen "rebels" website. You can find more similiar hallucinations here:
http://www.kavkaz.org/english/analysis.htm (http://www.kavkaz.org/english/analysis.htm)
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LOL mr fish
I don't know which America they're talking about, but it doesn't seem to be the one I live in.
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Originally posted by Boroda:
I'll post the source link after I'll see some opinions about this article. I'm especially interested in Eagler's opinion.
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America is infected by communism
It's roadkill!
twisted words to try & reinforce one's twisted agenda.
America will not trod down the same road as Russia as we are free to prevent it. Seems some mistaken a tightening of security for the loss of our freedoms. Can only speak for myself, but my day in and day out is the same today as it was 9/10/2001.
though I do believe CNN cause more harm than good a great deal of the time in the name of ratings... you can add MSNBC to that mix as well. Just my POV.
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Raubvogel, you obviously live in a world with pronouns :)
Boroda, I don't know exactly where you are coming from, but that is one big load of crap. The analogies don't hold up. Sounds like nationalism and sour grapes.
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hitting a city, and hitting a military target in the middle of a city are 2 verry different..
pilots lives are too valuable and weapons too expensive to be dropping them on the already ruined city.. when a bomb lands in one of those citys there is a 99% chance that it was aimed at and probably hit something of military value.. be a a com tower, or a bunker, or a radar dish.. etc..
the fact that bombing civilians is wrong and all that PC crap, there is very little to gain by doing it anyway, and its a wast of expensive fuel, ord and time.. not to mention the rick of a plane getting shot down.. they only attack targets that are worth the time, risk and money.. remember these arnt el-cheapo artillary shells and dumbfire zuni rockets.. this is either high dollar million dllar bombs, or dumb bombs being dropped by high dollar high risk (well sort of) multi million/billion dollar aircaft.
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You boys are not reading what the Comrade has written. Those ignorant rantings were written by persons that Comrade supposes we(the USA) support.
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Hey Wobble, hows it going down in Vic'? I haven't been there for a couple of years, but it was growing pretty good at that point. Have you ever gone out to that old airfield there and seen what is lying around in the weeds?
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You can have a differing point of view Boroda, just don't be a banana about it...
Tronsky
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The understanding of American culture was about as poor as the writers command of the English language. Why don't you just go live in Russia Boroda, oh wait...
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The new laws giving the police and FBI greater powers have a time limit of 5 years, not permanent.
Even after that, we can still vote to change them any time we want to....we just don't want to right now. Hell, there is nothing preventing the United States from enacting any law at any time. Just the will of the people. We even made drinking alcohol illegal once upon a time.
The great part about American government isn't the government, it is us and our votes.
Hans.
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More empty wishful thinking. "we screwed up so we hope we get to watch THEM screw it up too..."
xBAT
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Gadfly, you got my point ;)
Where, WHERE did I say I agree with this article?
I just want to show you the ideology of the enemy. OUR enemy.
I am surprised that US officials still insist that Russia should start negotiations with Chechen terrorists and withdraw troops from Chechnya.
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Boroda, if you could give me an opinion of what kind of news comes from this site appears to be middle ground fact only type stuff. I read it periodically to see whats outside my little box :)
http://www.russiajournal.com/index.shtml (http://www.russiajournal.com/index.shtml)
[ 10-26-2001: Message edited by: Professor Fate ]
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Boroda didnt write this or agree with it in any way.
Look before you leap.
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This article is rediculous, just more wood to put on the propaganda fire.
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Originally posted by Am0n:
Boroda didnt write this or agree with it in any way.
Look before you leap.
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This article is rediculous, just more wood to put on the propaganda fire.
Well, he did title this thread "An interseting view on America". I find the article only ignorant and self-serving. He was kinda asking for it.
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Originally posted by AKIron:
Well, he did title this thread "An interseting view on America". I find the article only ignorant and self-serving. He was kinda asking for it.
I disagree with Boroda about 99% of the time, but he makes an interesting point here that you've completely missed. The fact is that the article is ignorant and self-serving, and that was his point. It was written by those we in America tend to look upon as freedom fighters rather than American-hating terrorists, yet they espouse the same sort of anti-Americanism as the Taliban or Al Queda.
-- Todd/Leviathn