Aces High Bulletin Board
General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: cpxxx on May 26, 2006, 01:22:12 PM
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I never imagined such a thing before. Take a look at this.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v146/FlyingLawyer/T6_1sm.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v146/FlyingLawyer/T6_4sm.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v146/FlyingLawyer/T6_1271crop2.jpg)
These are not fake, here's the video.
http://www.flightzone.co.za/media/harvards.wmv
Amazing
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I've been doing that since IL2 came out...
:D
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Yup.. saw this on ESPN some time back.. awsome! ..but I'd imagine it's also hideously dangerous.
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That's insane.
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First pic has been on my desktop for about a week. Very cool looking.
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That is a disaster waiting to happen. It looks really cool and I
the pilots skills but that is simply a very dumb thing to do. Drop 6" and the gear will cartwheel the plane.
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Originally posted by Maverick
That is a disaster waiting to happen. It looks really cool and I the pilots skills but that is simply a very dumb thing to do. Drop 6" and the gear will cartwheel the plane.
I assume AC would resist going deeper, unless pilot forces it to do so. It is sort of like driving on water
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It shouldn't drop very easily because it's in the ground effect, which gets stronger when the plane gets lower.
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(c) by Ekranoplan ;)
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Originally posted by mora
It shouldn't drop very easily because it's in the ground effect, which gets stronger when the plane gets lower.
And is entirely dependant on power. that engine coughs, he's dead and the plane is history.
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I know a guy who used to do that in a Stearman.
I wouldn't imagine it would be much different than doing a wheel landing on grass. Moving forward with any significant speed you might as well be on grass. After all, you can barefoot at roughly 30mph, right?
Figure they're doing 90kts to maintain stability, AT-6's/SNJs are trucks at any speed, moreso low speeds. At that speed...wouldn't think it would be as high a difficulty or "death defying" as most think. Even if the engine died, you'd be able to pull the airplane off the water and have a fighting chance at survival by using normal ditching procedures.
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would it be incredibly crass to say I'm a heluva lot more concered about the loss of the plane than I am for the darwin award contender flying it?
;)
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...and assuming your five point restaint help up, you could probably wade to shore or yell for help in a very high pitched voice.
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My airplanes are equipped with 5 point restraints. I only use 4 :)
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Originally posted by Hangtime
And is entirely dependant on power. that engine coughs, he's dead and the plane is history.
That's a quite likely outcome, but ground effect is not entirely dependant on power... Just look at the birds which utilize ground effect.
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have you seen the 172sp with the airbag in shoulder restraint?
how long before you can get an airbag for your nuts? lol
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Originally posted by Debonair
have you seen the 172sp with the airbag in shoulder restraint?
how long before you can get an airbag for your nuts? lol
Nutairbags will give for you a real 'blowjob'? j/k
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Those guys must be flying their parking brake on, because if the wheels starts rolling it will suck the plane under... OTOH when the wheel is locked itīs acting as a skid. And water is pretty hard element at those speeds.
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Originally posted by LLv34 Jarsci
Those guys must be flying their parking brake on, because if the wheels starts rolling it will suck the plane under... OTOH when the wheel is locked itīs acting as a skid. And water is pretty hard element at those speeds.
:huh
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Whats the big deal? PBY's do that all the time, and they do it gear up.
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Originally posted by Golfer
:huh
Well, at flying schools they teach to keep brakes locked when you make a ditch into the water. Same with gliders, in case of forced landing during long distance flights (when you run out of altitude and thermals) , if you make your ditch in to the water you have to keep your wheel locked. It acts as a skid as I said before, but if the wheel starts spinning it wonīt produce any "lift". Between water and locked wheel the speed stays the same, but when the wheel spins the relative speed of wheel to the water decreases and does not produce any more "lift" or "skid". My language is not good enough to produce any better explanation for this but take my word for it. :D
In gliders ditching into the water happens relatively often, and I have seen pics of the planes afterwards. Planes with wheel retracted or locked (if not retracts) will slide and stop on the surface , but if wheels are spinning it will drag the plane under surface instantly!
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Originally posted by Gh0stFT
(c) by Ekranoplan ;)
Lol.
Good one.
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In Alaska pilots land on river bars all the time by doing the same thing. They set down in the water off of the bar and then ride up onto it and stop. Take off they get speed on the gravel bar and the last few feet they are on the water before they lift off.
Helps to have big tires.
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At least they have the parking brake on the takeoff roll :p