Aces High Bulletin Board
General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Yeager on May 28, 2006, 12:59:18 PM
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Can get you killed. Just a reminder......
http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/05/28/skydiving.death.ap/index.html
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WOW her first time too......
I wonder how somone with an experienced jumper can "slip out of her harness" while in tandem.
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It is not known how far the woman fell, and the sheriff's office did not release any further details.
does it matter?
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Originally posted by ~Caligula~
does it matter?
in the interest of morbid curiosity it does. Also to wily coyote crater dynamics.
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Also to wily coyote crater dynamics.
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lol in a morbid manner :aok
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"Show me a perfectly good plane and I won't jump out of it."
-A famous skydiver
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Second incident of its kind in one year. A quadraplegic man fell out if a tandem harness earlier. That incident had to do with hypermobility and a tandem masters decision to go along with no tying the passenger's legs to his own (on the passenger's request).
This one is being discussed at dropzone.com. Seems like an improperly tightened harness or a tandem jump with someone who shouldn't have jumped. Short (5 2) woman with lots of weight (220). With tandems becoming so mainsteram, there's talk of negligence and improper procedures, although there are not enough information out there to know anything, just speculation.
There is in tandem harnesses the same weakness as in sport rigs. It's known as "The Hole" and is basically where your butt is. In short, articulated harnesses it is quite possible to fall out of your rig, even if it is donned correctly. The legstraps may move in certain positions (such as in head up flying), creating enough room for the rest of the body to wiggle through if some countermeasures aren't taken. Freefliers (people predominantly flying head up, head down and making lots of transitions) usually have installed a small short cord between the leg straps to prevent this. Some harness manufacturers have adressed this with socalled "Fancy pants" which have elastic webbing integrated with the leg straps as a fix.
In short, this shouldn't have happened. I'll be sure to follow up on the discussion to get info on how and why it did.
Dropzone.com has a Incidents forum. Anyone involved with potentially dangerous jobs or hobbies normally understands the importance of discussing fatalities - to learn from them. Discussing fatalities is more than just morbid curiosity. It's pretty much essential if one wants to minimize accidents, incidents and so forth. Not pretty reading, not fun reading at all. I get a big "oh no" feeling when I see there's a new thread in Incidents.
The woman probably fell from around 5500 feet - the normal deployment altitude for a tandem jump.
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Oh Honneyyyy
Nevermind.
I was gonna say something bad. Really really really bad LOL
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She should have aimed for a conifer tree. She might have survived.
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I should (finaly) be making my 1st jump on June 11th... this is why you posted this hmmm?
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Are you making your jump at the Spa DZ, Froggy?
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Hey Saw, hope ya have a good time.
Fatalities is an unfortunate part of the sport that cannot be avoided. While whuffos seem to take some delight in hearing about a jumper that bounced, it's different among jumpers.
No doubt you'll get the classical horror stories from whuffos, then go to the DZ and get the "safer than driving" speech. None of the two represent the truth.
It's a cool experience and I wouldn't let horror stories scare me away. I wouldn't get complacent and think it's safe, because it ain't. One can reduce risks but not elmiminate 'em.
It kicks bellybutton though. I hope you're ready for a new addiction :D
If you go for a tandem, I hope you get a tandem master like Niklas:
(http://www.njfk.dk/uploads/gall1_tan_01.jpg)
:D
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25 miles from my home.
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West Chester is near my hometown. I wouldn't put it past those yokel's to not figure out a harness / fall out of it.