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General Forums => Wishlist => Topic started by: straffo on May 29, 2006, 04:57:30 AM
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YakYakYakYakYakYakYakYakYakYa kYakYakYakYak !!!!
Yak 1B :
(http://www.normandieniemen.com/rubriques/histoNN/avions/profils/alberthiver.jpg)
(http://www.normandieniemen.com/rubriques/histoNN/avions/profils/lapoype1b.jpg)
Yak9D
(http://www.normandieniemen.com/rubriques/histoNN/avions/profils/albert9.jpg)
(http://www.normandieniemen.com/rubriques/histoNN/avions/profils/moynet.jpg)
(http://www.normandieniemen.com/rubriques/histoNN/avions/profils/lefevre1.jpg)
Yak 3:
(http://www.normandieniemen.com/rubriques/histoNN/avions/profils/lasalle%20stuttgart.jpg)
(http://www.normandieniemen.com/rubriques/histoNN/avions/profils/marchi.jpg)
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You forgot the 9M say one of little voices I've in my head.
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Uh Oh, I'm going to need a few minutes alone.
And a box of tissue.
Though really I would be happy with just the Yak-1, 9M and 9-UT.
I'm not picky.... Oh what the hell, add the Moskit!
-Sik
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The UT had a 37mm and two 20's right.....
Mmmmmmmmmmmm Hi-caliber desruction.....
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I suppose I'd better do some reading to form an opinion.
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Originally posted by Sikboy
I'm not picky.... Oh what the hell, add the Moskit!
is it the Yak 1 M ?
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I really hope that we get the full line of Yak´s once the Yak9s are due for remake...
all of the versions listed here where made in significant numbers except the UT... but the UT would be a great addition to the perk plane lineup..
If we get the line of Yaks, a Mig3 and a LaGG3 we are pretty much set when it comes to russian fighters.
Adding all these Yaks shouldnt be much extra work when remodeling the 9T and 9U as they are relativly similar in shape.
LaGG3 could easily be added with when the LaLas get remade..
When this is done we can finally run AvA RPSes, Scenarios and Snapshots on the eastern front that actually feature russian planes.
As it is today its pretty rediculous when all Russian planes are either British or American.
Tex
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Originally posted by straffo
is it the Yak 1 M ?
Straffo,
Sorry, I seem to have lost my Yak book in the divorce settlement (I seem to have lost a lot of these things in the divorce).
You're right, the Moskit was the 1M, I was thinking they kept the nickname for the Yak-3, but I think I'm wrong on that.
As for the future of the Yaks... I'm pretty positive we'll get the 9M when they re-do the model. I'm hopeful that we'll get the 9UT, but I'm not holding my breath. The 9UT in game will cause a big fight here at the house when I try to convince wife 2.0 that I should get my X-45 out of storage. :lol
-Sik
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The Cross of Lorraine never flew over Russia........it was added after the NN returned to France. (but then you know that Straffo!!)
The UT (2 x B20 + 1 x NS37) was tested as late as March 45 and only then ordered for production (282 were made but its not clear how many before the war end) If we count the August Manchurian campaign then it should qualify..............
The Yak3 would be an MA favourite IMO...
Yak9D is a must for scenarios it sits square beside the La5FN in a post Kursk plane set.
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Originally posted by Tilt
The Cross of Lorraine never flew over Russia........it was added after the NN returned to France. (but then you know that Straffo!!)
I plead guilty your honor :D
Sikboy, condolence and congrats for your divorce ;)
I've been unable to get a proper reference for the Moskit (my library is quite a mess) but I'm almost (perhaps) pretty (un)sure it was the nickname of the Yak 1M ;)
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Straffo,
You're correct. I was just getting itchy lol.
-Sik
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They all look the same to me.:huh
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Most of them fly the same, too. There's very little need for 10 identical yaks. One might make an argument for a special armament variant, like the UT, but D vs T the difference is minimal.
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Originally posted by Krusty
Most of them fly the same, too. There's very little need for 10 identical yaks. One might make an argument for a special armament variant, like the UT, but D vs T the difference is minimal.
D v. T is pretty significant since the T has the 37mm and the D doesn't.
As far as flying the same, the Yak-3 is unlike any other Yak. From that point of view, it would be a good model.
-Sik
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I can see the Yak-1 so we have more options early war, but I have to agree that we don't really need a half dozen nearly identical aircraft added when there are so many different aircraft from the same theater and point in the war(LaGG-3, MiG-3, I-16, IAR, Buffalo, etc.) that need to be done too.
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Sikboy, despite the gun difference, the plane itself is very similar. The DD had extra fuel tanks, if I recall, but the D itself was no different from the T, it just had a 20mm (which our Yak9U already has). So basically we have something better than a Yak9D, it's the 9U. More horsepower, same gun.
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How many 109 do we have ?
It's a not a problem so what is your point here ?
The differences between the T and the D are not minimal :
the canopy was moved on the T
the gun is not the same
the range is not the same
9D was a bit faster (not a lot)
The differences are important enought , at least if it was a 109 we would have this not different sub-version.
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Originally posted by Krusty
Sikboy, despite the gun difference, the plane itself is very similar. The DD had extra fuel tanks, if I recall, but the D itself was no different from the T, it just had a 20mm (which our Yak9U already has). So basically we have something better than a Yak9D, it's the 9U. More horsepower, same gun.
Krusty,
The better example I believe is the 9M v. 9T. They are nearly identicle, the only difference being the gun. 9M has the ShVAK, the 9T has the NS-37, the 9M has 4 additional wing tanks and the associated range improvement (someone give me a number? 400km?). When flying Yaks, range is a pretty big deal since they all have very short legs.
Given the similarities, and the fact that all of the components already exist in game, it seems to follow that the 9M would be modeled when they remodel the yaks. The biggest expense I would think, would be adding the wing tanks. I'm not sure what goes into that part of the modeling.
The Yak came as close as any Soviet design to spanning the war. When a fighter has that kind of longevity, we end up with a ton of varients. Some of them (Yak-3, Yak-9UT) would do well in the Aces High Main Arena. Some of them (Yak-1, Yak-9D) would see most of their use in events and Scenarios. Yet each of the variants has a role to play and should have a home in Aces High. In events I've had the chance to see how the Spit 1 and Hurri 1 compete with the 109E over the English Channel. I would like the opportunity to see how the Yak-1 fought against contemporary German planes.
Anyhow, I'd like the Yak-1, the Yak-9M and the Yak-3. (though I love the idea of the UT, I'd rather have these three).
-Sik
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Originally posted by Sikboy
Straffo,
You're correct. I was just getting itchy lol.
-Sik
I can confirm it was the nickanme of the Yak3 prototype, I'll scan the source this evening if I can again put my hand on the book :D