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Title: ILA Berlin - Take two
Post by: Schatzi on May 29, 2006, 05:17:17 AM

I took my sweet time figuring everything out (big >>S<< and thank you to Schutt for explaining/helping me), but - finally - here they are....



http://www.slowcat.de/yappa-ng/index.php?

Title: ILA Berlin - Take two
Post by: Ghosth on May 29, 2006, 07:25:38 AM

Very Nice! Ty for the pictures Schatzi!

Title: ILA Berlin - Take two
Post by: wasq on May 29, 2006, 11:58:28 AM

Great pictures! Thanks for sharing.

I still haven't processed all of mine, Gatow pictures are still waiting for their turn... Maybe this week. :)

Title: ILA Berlin - Take two
Post by: LLv34_Snefens on May 30, 2006, 02:57:53 PM

Nice pics.

Panzzer, maybe you should get one of those beer dispenser helmets, instead of having your hands full? :)

Title: ILA Berlin - Take two
Post by: Panzzer on May 30, 2006, 03:05:42 PM

Hehe Snef, one of those was Wasq's, he was just too busy taking pictures at the moment so I had to drink his beer too. Err, I meant hold, not drink... :)

Title: ILA Berlin - Take two
Post by: Fruda on May 30, 2006, 03:33:44 PM

Ah man, I need to buy some recording equipment and go to some air shows. Look at all of those Russian planes! I'd be set!!

Title: ILA Berlin - Take two
Post by: wasq on May 31, 2006, 04:42:17 PM

Phew, I finally managed to go through all of my photos from the trip and convert them to jpeg.

Here's a few sets (I know, too many pictures...):
ILA (http://gallery.whatfettle.com/?photoset=72057594142374357&cols=4&size=small)
Luftwaffenmuseum (http://gallery.whatfettle.com/?photoset=72157594151249423&cols=4&size=small)
DTMB (http://gallery.whatfettle.com/?photoset=72057594143419801&cols=4&size=small)

Title: ILA Berlin - Take two
Post by: kamilyun on May 31, 2006, 05:31:52 PM

Love the pictures Schatzi,

I've got a dumb question:  Did that 262 fly there?  

The Yak, the Lag I see taxi-ing on the runway.  I've seen F4Us and P51s fly...

But I didn't know if there was an airworthy 262 out there...

Thanks

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Looked at Wasq's pictures and he answered my dumb question...

OMG!!!!  That 262 is beautiful in the air!!!!

If I could hit anything with those potato guns, I'd spend my perks flying that for a week now....

Title: ILA Berlin - Take two
Post by: 007Rusty on May 31, 2006, 06:09:06 PM

Great Pics  
:aok

Title: ILA Berlin - Take two
Post by: Schatzi on June 01, 2006, 03:06:11 AM

Quote

Originally posted by kamilyun
Love the pictures Schatzi,

I've got a dumb question:  Did that 262 fly there?  

The Yak, the Lag I see taxi-ing on the runway.  I've seen F4Us and P51s fly...

But I didn't know if there was an airworthy 262 out there...

Thanks

------------------------------edit below-----------------------

Looked at Wasq's pictures and he answered my dumb question...

OMG!!!!  That 262 is beautiful in the air!!!!

If I could hit anything with those potato guns, I'd spend my perks flying that for a week now....

Yes, it did fly.

Theres no airworthy original ME 262 left. This is one of very few rebuilds made on the US west coast (if im not mistaken) so its "only" a replica. It also doesnt have the original Jumo Jet engines (for very obvious reasons, they were very short lived and not very reliable).


And yes, it was VERY sweet to see it fly :).

Title: ILA Berlin - Take two
Post by: TexMurphy on June 01, 2006, 03:33:18 AM

this pic should be posted on the skinners forums... great pic of how worn color looks close up...

http://www.slowcat.de/yappa-ng/index.php?album=&image=HPIM0432.jpg

Tex

Title: ILA Berlin - Take two
Post by: TexMurphy on June 01, 2006, 03:41:35 AM

Is this really a Yak3????

http://www.slowcat.de/yappa-ng/index.php?album=%2FILA2006%2F&image=HPIM0233.jpg

I dont recognize the nose at all...

Tex

Title: ILA Berlin - Take two
Post by: Panzzer on June 01, 2006, 04:06:52 AM

Quote

Originally posted by TexMurphy
Is this really a Yak3????

http://www.slowcat.de/yappa-ng/index.php?album=%2FILA2006%2F&image=HPIM0233.jpg

I dont recognize the nose at all...

Tex

That's actually a modified Yak-11. The other Yak-11 there (the black one with the flames) was a later Yak-11U with a tricycle-gear for training jet pilots. Then there were the three Yak-3's...

Title: ILA Berlin - Take two
Post by: Gianlupo on June 01, 2006, 04:33:45 AM

Some variants of Yak 3 were equipped with radial engine. That should be a Yak 3U. See this page: http://www.kotfsc.com/aviation/yak3.htm

Wasq, are you sure this one is a MiG 21?

(http://static.flickr.com/52/157398514_1b47e446e3.jpg)

When I saw it in Schatzi's gallery, I thought it is a Su-22...

(http://www.slowcat.de/yappa-ng/show.php?size=640x640&album_name=%2FGatow%2F&obj_name=HPIM0417.jpg)

The cockpit is too far ahead for a MiG 21, the negative dihedral angles of wings is not typical in MiG, but in the Su-17/22 family, such as the 2 "blades" on the wings and the double probes on nose... I may be wrong, but I think that one is a Sukhoi, not a MiG. :p

Here, look at this two pictures of a Polish Su 20:

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/bc/Su-20_RB4.jpg/800px-Su-20_RB4.jpg)

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/32/Su-20_RB1.jpg/641px-Su-20_RB1.jpg)

EDIT: it took me a while to search some good picture of Sukhoi's, so I missed Panzzer's post... ok, not a Yak 3U :D

BTW, you guys saw that jet with your eyes: does it have variable sweep wing? If so, it's not a MiG-21 without any doubt.

Title: ILA Berlin - Take two
Post by: wasq on June 01, 2006, 08:06:30 AM

Quote

Originally posted by Gianlupo
Wasq, are you sure this one is a MiG 21?
When I saw it in Schatzi's gallery, I thought it is a Su-22...

Obviously it's not a Mig-21. Thanks, good to see that someone is looking at the pictures :) The wings are definitely different.

Here's a picture of Su-22 UMK (which I managed to correctly tag. :))
(http://static.flickr.com/49/157411700_bc27987e3b.jpg) (http://flickr.com/photos/wasq/157411700)

The wings are the same (with vertical "fins"), nose is the same... This one is a two-seater, though.

Title: ILA Berlin - Take two
Post by: Gianlupo on June 01, 2006, 09:09:57 AM

Cc wasq, glad to help! ;)

I do look at the pictures, and, every time I do so, I curse myself for not having thrown away all the RL duties and not having come there! :furious