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Title: Advice sought
Post by: nirvana on May 29, 2006, 11:53:04 AM
The past week of relaxation brought to mind how much I truly dislike working at Linens N Things.  I've been through this before and I probably shouldn't complain at all but here goes.

While the people I work with are nice and good people, I can't stand my boss.  I know it's part of being an adult, dealing with situations like that, especially with your boss, but I just don't think he knows what he's doing.  Clearly he's the store general manager for a reason but the past month or so we have lost quit a few people, we have maybe 10-15 people on the payroll yet we have 5 sections that each associate is in charge in.  That works out to 2 people per department, the other 5 being cashiers.

Well heck I get paid $7 an hour but it's also a 45 minute drive.  That drive is even longer when your coming home late at night after a day of school and going to school the next day.  So that extra $1.50 or whatever it is above minimum wage just flows directly into the gas tank anyway.

Then i'm going to work for my step dad this summer in his auto shop, which is where i see my career, not in selling toaster ovens and credit cards.  That means i'd rather spend a 10 hour day in the heat in the auto shop then the air conditioned store for 8 hours.  I know they are going to want me to work 40 hours a week this summer and that is not good with me.  working 7 days a week, it's just insane to think about, I know some people do it, but what do it when you don't have to.

If I don't flat out give my 2 weeks notice I plan on setting a 15 hour ceiling or else i'm gone, no it's not good but jeez, I don't want to live at work.  All my friends are just like whatever because they haven't been through quitting a job much less even having a real job.  It's just not even exciting to me anymore, i'm just burned out with unboxing, putting it on the shelf, labeling, making a display etc etc.  The repetition is just so boring and murderous.

Any advice is appreciated, thanks.
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Post by: xrtoronto on May 29, 2006, 11:58:27 AM
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Post by: SOB on May 29, 2006, 12:09:03 PM
Sounds like you've already made your decision.  When the time comes, give your two week notice and be professional about it...no reason to burn any bridges.
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Post by: Hangtime on May 29, 2006, 12:09:35 PM
The reason it's called 'work' is all the other 4 letter cuss words were already taken.

Real question time... what do you want to do for 'work' 5 years from now? Spin wrenches? As a former mechanic and auto service professional, I can assure you that that field indeed is 'work' and all the connotations of 'hard' apply.

That's not to say it ain't rewarding, or interesting or challenging.

Yer one of the brightest kids I've 'met'.. don't under estimate your worth and capabilities. And for cripes sake, enjoy being a 'kid' for as long as you can. I would advise against anything longer in your final summers as a 'kid' a 'work week' beyond 20-25 hours.

I'd also advise diviersity of experience.. you've learned what 'retail sales' is all about.. move on to a new experience.

G'luck, kid. ;)
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Post by: Toad on May 29, 2006, 12:14:10 PM
My advice is:

Quote
Hold on to sixteen as long as you can
Change is comin' 'round real soon, make us women and men

A little ditty about Jack and Diane,
Two American kids doin' the best that they can


Yer gonna be working the rest of yer natural days.

Enjoy being young while you can. It doesn't last and when it's gone, you don't get it back.

;)
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Post by: nirvana on May 29, 2006, 12:24:11 PM
Work 3 days a week like I did last yeah, 3 days a week, 30 hours a week, no biggie, but i'm trying to do what you guys are talking about in not working every single day of the week.  I'm not a total workaholic, but i'd rather have burned transmission fluid dripping on me then listening to another speech about how selling credit cards is so important.:rolleyes:
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Post by: Maverick on May 29, 2006, 12:48:16 PM
Do a simple analysis and then make a decision. By all means be professional about it if you decide to leave the store.

Life is all about decisions. Some like this are merely matters of convenience, others will have a lasting impact on the rest of your life. Use this one as a means to learn about them and see what happens. No matter what, it is not the focal point of the rest of your life. The impact either way is likely to be minimal.
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Post by: eagl on May 29, 2006, 12:57:07 PM
Get fired for slacking off and file for unemployment.  That way you get free money for your entire summer and all you have to do to keep getting paid is occasionally apply for jobs you're not qualified for to "prove" that you're looking for work.

All that money is going to go to SOMEONE, so you may as well grab what you can now.  You're sure as heck going to pay it back in taxes in the future, so it's not even unethical.  The govt takes part of your salary to give to other people who don't or won't work, so it's only fair to get some of it back by also sitting around and not working.  After all, paying people who aren't working is the whole purpose of the system, so be a team player and sign up before you have real bills to pay.

Yea, I know someone who did this, fairly successfully as I recall.
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Post by: CavemanJ on May 29, 2006, 03:45:30 PM
Go drive pizza for the summer!
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Post by: cpxxx on May 29, 2006, 03:51:55 PM
Learn from it.  A boss who doesn't know what he's doing? You'll meet quite a few of those in your lifetime. They always outnumber the good bosses. In truth all he probably had to do to become boss of a store was to lack the imagination or ability to move on or up.

The other lesson to learn is that might be your future, if you are not careful. It's easy to fall into a screamingly dull life by simply taking the comfortable route. Actually even if you try hard to avoid it sometimes you can still end up in the dull, boring job.  As is happening to me at the moment. But at least it encourages me to get the lead out and improve myself.

If you think the repitition is bad now, imagine something like it for years and years and years.  

So don't be in any hurry to make rash decisions. I work with a guy who went to college to study Physics of all things. Not much work in that field where he lives. But he has worked in shops and factories, construction, farmwork, bars etc. He has travelled all over and is now working to save money for a return trip to Australia. He's 24 and in no hurry to settle down. Think about it, at sixteen you could have 8 years of experiences ahead of you and still be young enough to figure out what you want out of life.

So walk away now, it's not fun anymore, try something else. There's plenty of time to be hard working and sensible when you marry and have kids. Enjoy your life.
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Post by: john9001 on May 29, 2006, 04:07:03 PM
has been my experience that they never make a good worker manager because then they lose a good worker, so they make a poor worker  manager because the poor worker can't do any thing else.


boss 1" joe is slow and has too many comebacks, but he's a nice guy with a family, i don't want to fire him"

boss 2 " lets make him a manager"

boss 1 " good idea"

boss 2 "thats why we are management, we make good decisions""
Title: Advice sought
Post by: nirvana on May 29, 2006, 07:51:05 PM
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Originally posted by eagl
Get fired for slacking off and file for unemployment.  That way you get free money for your entire summer and all you have to do to keep getting paid is occasionally apply for jobs you're not qualified for to "prove" that you're looking for work.

All that money is going to go to SOMEONE, so you may as well grab what you can now.  You're sure as heck going to pay it back in taxes in the future, so it's not even unethical.  The govt takes part of your salary to give to other people who don't or won't work, so it's only fair to get some of it back by also sitting around and not working.  After all, paying people who aren't working is the whole purpose of the system, so be a team player and sign up before you have real bills to pay.

Yea, I know someone who did this, fairly successfully as I recall.


:rofl No, I think i'll skip that, I did think about the unemployment pay though, but i'm not an bellybutton like that, having others pay for me to sit around all day.  It's kind of strange to have your future pretty figured out by the time you're a sophomore in high school:(
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Post by: DREDIOCK on May 29, 2006, 07:59:09 PM
Dont keep ore stay in a job your miserable in.

Try to find something you actually enjoy doing or at least get satisfaction from.

barring that in the meantime take the job you find the most tolerable with the best pay.

Dont settle on anying less unless you have no other options.
then dont ever ever be afraid to look for and find something better.

Your young. get a taste of as many things as you can and find out what YOU like to do.
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Post by: SOB on May 30, 2006, 12:31:05 AM
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Originally posted by nirvana
It's kind of strange to have your future pretty figured out by the time you're a sophomore in high school:(

 :)
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Post by: asilvia on May 30, 2006, 01:14:29 AM
10th grade and worrying about a job???? HOLY watermelon BATMAN!!! You are way to young to even think about that kind of stress. Relax, get an outside job. Get a job were you look at girls/guys (yes being pc..lol) all day. Do something thats fun not were your gonna be beat when you get home and not have time to play. My friend you have the rest of your life to worry about a job and how to make ends meet.
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Post by: DREDIOCK on May 30, 2006, 02:01:19 AM
ohhh onl 10th grade?
I thought he was fresh out of school.

In that case a tenth grader onlly needs to learn one thing

Quit whining and get back to work LOL
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Post by: DiabloTX on May 30, 2006, 02:56:14 AM
Retail is the spawn of the devil.

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Post by: eagl on May 30, 2006, 03:07:38 AM
I set myself up for life the summer after 10th grade...  Didn't have anything but a roadmap of stepping stones to my goals, but I knew exactly what I wanted and a pretty good idea of how to get there.  I didn't give up even when faced with setbacks or when told I ought to set *different* goals, and sure enough I pretty much got what I wanted.

So getting your life straight in 10th grade doesn't seem all that strange to me.  If you want to do anything extraordinary with your life, 10th grade is about the latest you ought to get your stuff together and start setting/achieving milestones that lead to your overall goal.  It doesn't matter whether your goal is to be an astronaut or owning your own auto repair shop, 10th grade is about when you need to get started because everything you do from 10th grade on will either count in your favor or be held against you without mercy.
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Post by: Jackal1 on May 30, 2006, 06:35:26 AM
Life`s too short to have to endure a dull and obnoxious corp wannabe that is only using folks for stepping stones.
Give notice, get out and forget it ever happened.
The most important thing in any job is liking and enjoying what you are doing.
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Post by: Goomba on May 30, 2006, 08:16:50 AM
While you're young, take the opportunity to try working in any kind of job that even remotely interests you.  Change as often as you need to.

You need to find out what you love, or at least like, doing.  I never did figure it out...and still don't know...and all that gets you is endless days of dissatisfaction.

Do NOT start working 7 days a week for $7/hour.  That kind of work is worth it when you have a clear goal, and sufficient reward.  If retail was your chosen direction, then you'd be doing the right thing.

Finally...the rest of the guys are right...you're going to work for mouth-breathing bottom-feeders as often as you work for experienced professionals, and it truly sucks.  Look at it this way...imagine having to put up with a supervisor who is clearly dumber than a bag of hammers...and he's 10 years younger than you are.  Not fun.

Hard work is really good, if you like what you do.  Make certain, more than anything else, that you can stand to put your feet on the floor each morning and yuo'll be OK.

Luck!
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Post by: nirvana on May 30, 2006, 04:58:41 PM
My step dad owns his auto repair shop in 3 years so I have to learn how to keep from running it into the ground.  If I could, i'd be working somewhere that had to do with cars.  I'd be fine working at Big O Tires rotating and balancing tires for $7 an hour.  It was fine for the first few months at Linens N Things but then it started to become a problem when there are 4 people closing the store and 2 of them want to screw around and talk while everyone else cleans.  Do they get blamed? oh no, it's a team responsibility.  Last summer I worked at my step dad's auto shop, every Friday the whole team cleaned the floors, none of the bullcrap stand around and let everyone else work.  


Anyway, there's a little hobby store down the road that I am going to call up and see if they are hiring/what age they hire at and a music store too, but I think I might have to be 18 to work there but who knows.  I may just thrown in my 2 week notice since school is out next Monday and the sooner i'm in the shop the more I have a chance to learn.


Thanks for all the input guys, I appreciate it.
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Post by: moneyguy on May 30, 2006, 05:10:07 PM
you could always be a moneyguy...Dunbar, Loomis Fargo, Brinks....doesn't pay great but its fun work and they let you carry a gun. :noid
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Post by: nirvana on May 30, 2006, 08:20:43 PM
At 16? Seriously?  I could do that:D
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Post by: AWMac on May 30, 2006, 09:05:57 PM
Ya gotta catch up... as soon as your born they make you feel small, by givining you no time instead of it all...till the pain is so big you feel nothing at all....

A working class hero is something to be.... they hurt you at home and they hit you at school, they hate you when yer clever and they dispise the fool...til yer so frikken crazy you can't follow their rules...

A working Class Hero is Something to be....When they tortured and scared you for 20 odd years...then they expect you to fake a carreer...When you can't really function your so full of fear.

A working Class Hero is Something to be....If yer doped with religion, and your sex and TV. and you drink yourself cleaver and your classless and free... but yer still frikken Peasants as far as I can see....

A Working Class Hero is Something to Be, A Working Class Hero is Something to Be....

There's room at the top they are telling you still, but first you must learn how to smile as you kill...If you want to be like the fools on the hill....

A working Class Hero is Something to Be, A Working Class Hero is Something to Be...

If you want to be a hero, then just follow me....


~John Lennon~
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Post by: moneyguy on May 30, 2006, 09:43:05 PM
ummm...not gonna work at 16, need to be 21
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Post by: nirvana on June 01, 2006, 04:48:32 PM
So i'm probably just being a whiny 16 year old but here's an example of the stupidity of my boss (probably the coroporate hot shots mostly) anyway, as you know I work at...Linens n Things.  What do we sell?  Crap, mostly.

We don't close until 10:00PM.  That is, the doors don't get LOCKED until 10PM and that's if there are no customers, if there are customers, we stay later.  Oh yes, because you just have  to have that muffin pan or that comforter.  Give me a frikken break.  Anyone shopping at 9PM for pillows should be shot, and anyone in the store until 10PM shouldn't even be living.  Good ything I only have 2 weeks left...
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Post by: RightF00T on June 01, 2006, 05:13:48 PM
Ahhh the dolts that stick around after closing time.  You're gonna find that anywhere you work.  The whole time you're thinking "GO HOME" while they're smiling away enjoying the hit oldies playing on the radio.  I remember working at a fast food joint and there would always be the bastards that come in at 8:55(9PM closing) and DINE IN .  You practically had to shove them out the door when they left or risk someone else trying to come in.

My point is: Work is work...make the most of your time not working and if you have no time between working...find a new job, there are things you can do when you're young that you cant get away with later...and you'll regret that. ;)
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Post by: lasersailor184 on June 01, 2006, 05:32:13 PM
Don't let it get to you too bad.

I got fired a week ago for working too hard.  That'll teach me!



Anyway, **** always works out in the end.  I originally went to the job for something different.  Now I'm possibly going to work on a construction site or engineering office.  Better money, harder work.


Plus I was just asked to crew on two olympic class sailboats.  If we do well enough, we just might try to do the world championship in October.  That would rock so much.
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Post by: nirvana on June 01, 2006, 05:36:44 PM
Like I said, good thing I only have 2 weeks left, my notice goes up tomorrow, then i'll be working for my step dad, where close is guaranteed by 6PM if not earlier.

But that's exactly what it is Rightfoot, only, we can't make that announcement, "The store is closing please bring your purchases to the front" for some reason, i've never gotten the whole shpeel about why not.  I couldn't stay pay 10PM on school nights and school ends on Monday:(

Which also reminds me, don't forget to pick up your teen squelch emergency kit at your local retailers as it is that time of season again^^^
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Post by: LePaul on June 01, 2006, 06:48:27 PM
It could be worse.

They could keep moving your desk.  Then the only thing you have to live for is your red stapler.  Then you find out you were laid off 5 years ago but due to a payroll glitch, your still getting paid.

:cool:
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Post by: nirvana on June 01, 2006, 07:03:15 PM
And ya know, I asked about that stapler just last week, you know what they told me?  They're moving my desk to the basement storage area.