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Title: guys who still think noe is 200ft lol'
Post by: rod367th on May 30, 2006, 11:45:26 AM
on today 5 nits try to tell me noe is 100ft  and u show dot at 200ft . when i told them it was 499ft or less called me a newbie.   so funny how some play game and when you tell them search bbs or ask hitech they just keep saying newbies don't know anything .   lol  jebus nhawk was funny......
Title: guys who still think noe is 200ft lol'
Post by: Hammy on May 30, 2006, 11:51:32 AM
I do believe you are right Rod.

and good ta see ya still around! :aok
Title: guys who still think noe is 200ft lol'
Post by: Winks on May 30, 2006, 11:56:58 AM
yep u r right rod.......but for those who r not convinced........just goto arena settings on clipboard.....and it will say radar 500ft
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Post by: 68DevilM on May 30, 2006, 12:17:28 PM
i could see hwere they thought different, ive been playing ah for over two years and i always was told NOE was 200ft and below, nice to know i dont have to scrape the trees anymore
Title: guys who still think noe is 200ft lol'
Post by: rod367th on May 30, 2006, 12:24:27 PM
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Originally posted by 68DevilM
i could see hwere they thought different, ive been playing ah for over two years and i always was told NOE was 200ft and below, nice to know i dont have to scrape the trees anymore




always been 499ft or less
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Post by: WMLute on May 30, 2006, 12:48:14 PM
Rod is 100%

NOE is under 500 feet.

It's an arena setting.
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Post by: 68DevilM on May 30, 2006, 01:03:47 PM
ill agree with the dot dar but i do think dar bar is 200
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Post by: navajoboy on May 30, 2006, 01:11:38 PM
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Originally posted by 68DevilM
ill agree with the dot dar but i do think dar bar is 200


i think so also..
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Post by: Panzzer on May 30, 2006, 01:16:08 PM
Both under 500, dot and bar.
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Post by: Hazard69 on May 30, 2006, 01:55:10 PM
Under 200mph and below 200ft is thumbrule for torpedo bombing....nothing to do with radar, but i think thats where they get it from?????:huh
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Post by: Airscrew on May 30, 2006, 02:19:03 PM
I used to tell guys it was 200ft so they wouldnt screw up.  Me personnally, when I'm NOE I fly just high enough to keep my prop out of the water :)
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Post by: Treize69 on May 30, 2006, 02:34:37 PM
If I'm not dodging trees, its too high :)
Title: Re: guys who still think noe is 200ft lol'
Post by: NHawk on May 30, 2006, 02:42:49 PM
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Originally posted by rod367th
on today 5 nits try to tell me noe is 100ft  and u show dot at 200ft . when i told them it was 499ft or less called me a newbie.   so funny how some play game and when you tell them search bbs or ask hitech they just keep saying newbies don't know anything .   lol  jebus nhawk was funny......
I never called you a newbie. But, it was raised in version 1.09 or 1.10. It use to be lower than 500ft.

And I was trying to figure out when HT programmed a flight sim for AOL since I had back end access from about 1992 through 1999 or 2000 and never saw anything in the game area for a flight sim until AW for AOL. Anything is possible, I could have missed it. (Looking at my last programming contract from 1998 which I refused, which caused the eventual shutdown of a game area on AOL).

To drop a couple of names that HT might recognize... Larry Schick and Rob Jennings?
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Post by: Edbert1 on May 30, 2006, 02:57:35 PM
Maybe they confused the 200 foot icon range thing?
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Post by: SlapShot on May 30, 2006, 03:00:35 PM
I never called you a newbie. But, it was raised in version 1.09 or 1.10. It use to be lower than 500ft.

I have been playing for close to 5 years now ... it has always been lower than 500 ft AGL ... most don't know that.

If ya don't believe it ... go to an obscure part of the map where there are no friendlys in the sector ... lift off and once you are above 500 AGL ... you will light up the dar bar.

Both under 500, dot and bar.

dot dar is ALWAYS on ... unless radar has been porked.
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Post by: NHawk on May 30, 2006, 03:04:42 PM
If ya don't believe it ... go to an obscure part of the map where there are no friendlys in the sector ... lift off and once you are above 500 AGL ... you will light up the dar bar.

Except your own dot doesn't light up the dar bar. At least on my end it doesn't.

In any case, I guess I was imagining things. I stand corrected. :)
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Post by: x0847Marine on May 30, 2006, 03:07:17 PM
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Originally posted by SlapShot
I never called you a newbie. But, it was raised in version 1.09 or 1.10. It use to be lower than 500ft.

I have been playing for close to 5 years now ... it has always been lower than 500 ft AGL ... most don't know that.

If ya don't believe it ... go to an obscure part of the map where there are no friendlys in the sector ... lift off and once you are above 500 AGL ... you will light up the dar bar.

Both under 500, dot and bar.

dot dar is ALWAYS on ... unless radar has been porked.


I thought you couldnt see your own 'der ber', i.e the E sees it but you dont... it takes two friendlies to see a green bar, no?..yes?
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Post by: SlapShot on May 30, 2006, 03:23:36 PM
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Originally posted by x0847Marine
I thought you couldnt see your own 'der ber', i.e the E sees it but you dont... it takes two friendlies to see a green bar, no?..yes?


Trying to figure out what 'der ber" is ...  :rolleyes:

If it is "dar bar" ... it only takes 1 guy at 500 ft AGL or above to make it go off. Friendlys see it as green ... enemy sees it as red.

Think about it people ... have you ever seen an NOE mission, over water, and noticed all the little green dots all jammed together, and if they are all under 500 ft AGL, you see no green dar bar ?

Dot dar is ALWAYS on ... it has no bearing on altitude ... it strictly depends on radar. If radar is down ... then no dot dar.
Title: guys who still think noe is 200ft lol'
Post by: Airscrew on May 30, 2006, 03:29:05 PM
but enemy dot dar doesnt see you if you're under 500ft
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Post by: SlapShot on May 30, 2006, 03:44:40 PM
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Originally posted by Airscrew
but enemy dot dar doesnt see you if you're under 500ft


Correct.

You will not show on enemy dot dar until you are within the radar circle and above 500 AGL. The base will flash tho ... once you pierce the radar circle ... no matter what altitude your at. I believe that the radar circle is 24 miles in diameter.
Title: guys who still think noe is 200ft lol'
Post by: rod367th on May 30, 2006, 03:47:23 PM
Nhawk it was just jebus saying Newbie idiot, i know you were pretty sure of 200ft. that is because most say 200ft to newbie so they don't screw up noe. I would never say i've been here longer than you i know beter unless i was sure who i was talking to.  some of us been around long time change names when we changed into new squad or left to fight on another country.  Best way to learn about game is next new map agree to be tester before it comes into main. You really learn alot fast in s and outs of AH.  but when new maps come out you only see same few testing it to get bugs out.  AOL  game you and I speak of WAs called Fighter OPS  guys like Dh367th , pacerr, Lynx among many others first flew there.
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Post by: Airscrew on May 30, 2006, 04:11:27 PM
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Originally posted by SlapShot
Correct.

You will not show on enemy dot dar until you are within the radar circle and above 500 AGL. The base will flash tho ... once you pierce the radar circle ... no matter what altitude your at. I believe that the radar circle is 24 miles in diameter.

Actually I think radar perimeter for a base or object is 10 miles, and the town dot will flash first before the whole base starts flashing,  or maybe its 24 miles for radar circle, town flashes, then 10 miles out the whole base flashes...
Title: guys who still think noe is 200ft lol'
Post by: SlapShot on May 30, 2006, 04:14:11 PM
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Originally posted by NHawk
If ya don't believe it ... go to an obscure part of the map where there are no friendlys in the sector ... lift off and once you are above 500 AGL ... you will light up the dar bar.

Except your own dot doesn't light up the dar bar. At least on my end it doesn't.

In any case, I guess I was imagining things. I stand corrected. :)


Well ya peaked my interest ... I just lifted from A20 (all by myself) and after I was over 500 ft AGL and climbed to 10,000 ft ... no dar bar ... so it looks like dar bar doesn't consider yourself in it's equation.

Just goes to show ya ... ya learn something new every day.
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Post by: Airscrew on May 30, 2006, 04:17:03 PM
looking at Help,  "field radar in a 12.5 mile radius"
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Post by: Jebus on May 30, 2006, 05:01:41 PM
Rod.  I apologize i did not know who you were.  If i new you were H2Oman i would have believed you.  But lately when ever i sign on i hear some 2 week free trail kid tell me everything they know about the game.  So once again I apologize

I never heard of 500 feet NOE, and when you said it i went to my laptop and starting looking it up.  I never got a chance to apologize.  If you dont except it that is fine.  But can you see where i am coming from with the 2 week trail kids.

Rod
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Post by: Wolf14 on May 30, 2006, 05:24:06 PM
I was always told below 200ft as well, but later confirmed it was 500. I figured somebody along the way started telling folks to fly under 200ft because I doubt most people can hold alt in a course correction. The 300ft difference gives them a little pad. I know I dont hold alt real well when I make course corrections so the 300ft pad deffinately helps me.
Title: guys who still think noe is 200ft lol'
Post by: rod367th on May 30, 2006, 05:28:38 PM
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Originally posted by Jebus
Rod.  I apologize i did not know who you were.  If i new you were H2Oman i would have believed you.  But lately when ever i sign on i hear some 2 week free trail kid tell me everything they know about the game.  So once again I apologize

I never heard of 500 feet NOE, and when you said it i went to my laptop and starting looking it up.  I never got a chance to apologize.  If you dont except it that is fine.  But can you see where i am coming from with the 2 week trail kids.

Rod





np   remember 2weekers can read..  every detail is out there you just have to read. some 2weekers read up on game before trying. so if 2weeker came on says something if i'm not sure i double check. but all i do is set him or her st8 tell them  where to find out info .  if not for  newbies this game couldn't build to great sim.
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Post by: hubsonfire on May 30, 2006, 05:29:50 PM
Isn't 200' the alt at which your icon disappears?
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Post by: rod367th on May 30, 2006, 05:32:36 PM
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Originally posted by hubsonfire
Isn't 200' the alt at which your icon disappears?





no icon disappears at 499ft so does your dar bar .
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Post by: Bronk on May 30, 2006, 05:40:50 PM
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Originally posted by rod367th
no icon disappears at 499ft so does your dar bar .


I think he means when in icon range (6.0) you can't tell what the ac is.









Bronk
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Post by: hubsonfire on May 30, 2006, 05:48:22 PM
No, I did mean that there's an alt at which your icon disappears, due either to a setting, or just that it's lost in the terrain. I suppose it could have been changed, but I was fairly certain it was at a lower alt than radar.
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Post by: ridley1 on May 30, 2006, 08:11:56 PM
ok....NOE.... it's 200 vs 500......

Anyone from HT out there?

what is it?
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Post by: Lusche on May 30, 2006, 08:31:08 PM
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Originally posted by ridley1
ok....NOE.... it's 200 vs 500......

Anyone from HT out there?

what is it?


It depends on arena settings. You can look it up yourself, youīll find it under
SETUP->Arena Setup->Environment->Radar Alt
currently itīs at 500

But to be honest, if you had asked me before I read this thread, I would have answered "200", īcause thatīs what everybody said. Sometimes common knowledge is wrong knowledge... ;)
Title: It was 200'
Post by: rshubert on May 30, 2006, 08:56:26 PM
in the old days of AH1.  When they changed over to AH2, it got changed.

But I still tell everybody to stay under 200 feet, just because.

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Post by: MOSQ on May 30, 2006, 09:22:34 PM
Don't forget the 200' trees.
Title: Re: It was 200'
Post by: rod367th on May 30, 2006, 09:42:40 PM
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Originally posted by rshubert
in the old days of AH1.  When they changed over to AH2, it got changed.

But I still tell everybody to stay under 200 feet, just because.





ah1 was 500ft too   i found out when flossy  set me st8 in ah1.
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Post by: Hades55 on May 31, 2006, 04:08:26 AM
usualy i fly noe 10-20 ft :)
Title: Re: Re: It was 200'
Post by: X2Lee on May 31, 2006, 11:49:14 AM
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Originally posted by rod367th
ah1 was 500ft too   i found out when flossy  set me st8 in ah1.


Now thats where you are wrong. Its been 500 in AH since I been here
and it was 200 in AW the whole time. There are dozens of AW game ops here that can tell you the same and prolly thousands of AW players here
that can concur.

And its where the confusion in here derives.

And even your thread title says so.
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Post by: BBQ_Bob on May 31, 2006, 05:52:46 PM
Hey I always thought it was '200, I feel so lied to. :aok