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Title: Calling out the AH P38 drivers
Post by: Guppy35 on May 31, 2006, 12:38:15 PM
Looks like the Wednesday 5/31 Snapshot is right up the 38 drivers alley.

Would be nice if we could put up a decent number of 38s and maybe draw in a like number of Ki84 and Ki61 drivers to have at it around those 24s.  Could be a heckuva brawl :)

Starts at 10 EST btw

http://events.hitechcreations.com/snapshots/snapshot.php?snapshot_id=99
Title: Calling out the AH P38 drivers
Post by: Delirium on May 31, 2006, 12:50:20 PM
AM or PM?

Checked the calender on the site, no post of it.

edit: checked the homepage- its 2200.. 10pm est.
Title: Calling out the AH P38 drivers
Post by: StarOfAfrica2 on May 31, 2006, 01:01:35 PM
Umm, you mean THURSDAY 6/1?  :)
Title: Calling out the AH P38 drivers
Post by: Ack-Ack on May 31, 2006, 01:43:01 PM
Bah...will be in San Diego on Thursday :(



ack-ack
Title: Calling out the AH P38 drivers
Post by: Guppy35 on May 31, 2006, 01:47:52 PM
It's tonight.  My mistake on the date.

So get there AKAK :)
Title: Calling out the AH P38 drivers
Post by: AutoPilot on May 31, 2006, 02:54:27 PM
I enjoy nothing more than blasting P-38's out of the sky in the Ki-61.I will definately be there for that.
Title: Calling out the AH P38 drivers
Post by: Ack-Ack on May 31, 2006, 03:21:54 PM
LOL sure you do big guy...lmao.



ack-ack
Title: Calling out the AH P38 drivers
Post by: AutoPilot on May 31, 2006, 04:29:54 PM
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LOL sure you do big guy...lmao.


Last time they ran this scenario i bagged 3 -38's.You act like no one can shoot you down in your  gayyyyyyyy 38.You all try the same weak arse moves and they never work.
Title: Calling out the AH P38 drivers
Post by: Ack-Ack on May 31, 2006, 04:33:12 PM
Yeah, you're so uber that we just bask in your glory...lmao



ack-ack
Title: Calling out the AH P38 drivers
Post by: Stang on May 31, 2006, 05:23:14 PM
lol, I might have to show up just to see AutoDweeb get spanked.

:lol
Title: Calling out the AH P38 drivers
Post by: killnu on May 31, 2006, 05:37:34 PM
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You all try the same weak arse moves and they never work.


really?  wondering what im doing wrong, now i know.  thanks.:rolleyes:
Title: Calling out the AH P38 drivers
Post by: p38ah on May 31, 2006, 07:16:25 PM
I might come just to witness the bloodbath. Now where did I put my notes on the 38?

pick
Title: Calling out the AH P38 drivers
Post by: SkyRock on May 31, 2006, 07:19:01 PM
I'm there!:aok
Title: Calling out the AH P38 drivers
Post by: SAS_KID on May 31, 2006, 08:55:25 PM
Man we need to have these things on saturdays so i can fly my KI84 or 61 man!!! Geez! I want to have a nice 1 on 1 with Ack-Ack im sure to get spanked but i h=just want to really see what he can do with that 38.
Title: Calling out the AH P38 drivers
Post by: Delirium on May 31, 2006, 10:14:52 PM
I thought it was tomorrow...

Damn...
Title: Calling out the AH P38 drivers
Post by: Guppy35 on May 31, 2006, 10:21:16 PM
Was good fun.  74 people involved.  Lots of 38s, lots of good fights and my usual falling in pieces into the jungle below :)
Title: Calling out the AH P38 drivers
Post by: Soulyss on May 31, 2006, 10:27:03 PM
CC, was good fun.. found some fights which is odd for me in these things... usually end up flying for hours on end w/out finding anyone to shoot at.  Went round and round with a few before I collided with I think a Ki84 that I was looping with and had to limp home.
Title: Calling out the AH P38 drivers
Post by: Bronk on May 31, 2006, 10:27:58 PM
Aye was fun flyin with you all to all involved.



Bronk
Title: Calling out the AH P38 drivers
Post by: Captain Virgil Hilts on May 31, 2006, 10:30:54 PM
Had a really good turnout, got to fly with some good P-38 pilots. Didn't score a kill, but lived. Best of all, flew 80th FS HeadHunters colors in honor of my friend Ken Lloyd, of the 80th FS, who is fighting his last great fight, with terminal pulmonary fibrosis. A big to everyone. I'm drinking a beer or two in honor of Ken.
Title: Calling out the AH P38 drivers
Post by: LEDPIG on June 01, 2006, 03:51:58 AM
So when is this wednesday or thursday?
Title: Calling out the AH P38 drivers
Post by: Pawz on June 01, 2006, 09:29:13 AM
ACK ACK you live in LA?
Title: Calling out the AH P38 drivers
Post by: Ack-Ack on June 01, 2006, 09:33:57 AM
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Originally posted by Pawz
ACK ACK you live in LA?



Yep, just moved here from San Diego.



ack-ack
Title: Calling out the AH P38 drivers
Post by: Airscrew on June 01, 2006, 10:03:17 AM
I thought it was tonight 6/1?   I havent done one of these yet and this one would have been perfect, I like the P-38 and the KI-84 so either would have been ok by me.

So did Auto get spanked? :t
Title: Calling out the AH P38 drivers
Post by: Frodo on June 01, 2006, 10:09:20 AM
I hadn't flown one of these in a while. Was a lot of fun flying planes that were pretty evenly matched.

Frodo
Title: Calling out the AH P38 drivers
Post by: AutoPilot on June 01, 2006, 11:55:21 AM
Was a good snapshot as usual, 75 pilots is  a lot.38's did a poor job of fighter coverage, they let us right in on the bombers, prolly explains why we whipped them.And the majority of the pilots flying Axis were Kids.
Title: Calling out the AH P38 drivers
Post by: Bronk on June 01, 2006, 12:12:27 PM
1st   F3 was disabled for buffs at the start  and they got all strung out because of it.  Was kinda like herding cats at that point.

2nd Buff commander lost vox this exacerbated buffs flying all over the place.
So fighters also got scattered trying to cover.

3rd I think there was a griefer in the mix. After checking the log matell shot down not 1.. not 2... but yes folks all 3 of the buff commanders B24s.
Something rotten in Denmark me thinks. No offence to the people from Denmark.:D

And since auto flies in da shade no idea how he did.



Bronk
Title: Calling out the AH P38 drivers
Post by: AutoPilot on June 01, 2006, 01:05:24 PM
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1st F3 was disabled for buffs at the start and they got all strung out because of it.


This must have been your first snapshot in the buffs for the F3 mode is always disabled.





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2nd Buff commander lost vox this exacerbated buffs flying all over the place.


You guys can't understand text?


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3rd I think there was a griefer in the mix.


Don't even go there for i was flying with LTOWN the entire event.I like LTOWN he has a lot of spirit and cry's like no other.Last night was his best performance, he was complaining about the sun being too bright and even said something too the effect of flying too Texas to choke the people at Hi-tech who made the sun that bright.


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And since auto flies in da shade no idea how he did.


It's so much cooler in the shade   :aok :rofl
Title: Calling out the AH P38 drivers
Post by: WldThing on June 01, 2006, 01:20:02 PM
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Originally posted by AutoPilot


 

Don't even go there for i was flying with LTOWN the entire event.I like LTOWN he has a lot of spirit and cry's like no other.Last night was his best performance, he was complaining about the sun being too bright and even said something too the effect of flying too Texas to choke the people at Hi-tech who made the sun that bright.



I heard LTOWN last night, all the cursing was rediculous..  Doesn't take a genius to figure out that if one turns 45 degrees to any direction the sun won't be a bother anymore.
Title: Calling out the AH P38 drivers
Post by: Bronk on June 01, 2006, 01:46:05 PM
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Originally posted by AutoPilot
This must have been your first snapshot in the buffs for the F3 mode is always disabled.


Unless I was misinformed 68KO turned it on after he found out it was off.




 

You guys can't understand text?

Gee whats easier  A: voice commands or B: scrolling text.    
 

Don't even go there for i was flying with LTOWN the entire event.I like LTOWN he has a lot of spirit and cry's like no other.Last night was his best performance, he was complaining about the sun being too bright and even said something too the effect of flying too Texas to choke the people at Hi-tech who made the sun that bright.


 What has this to do with the possible fragging of the buff commander. His entire box was shot down by mattel. Care to make a relevant comment or can't you understand the TEXT?

It's so much cooler in the shade   :aok :rofl


And its so dark you evidently cant see out of it.




Bronk
Title: Calling out the AH P38 drivers
Post by: Karnak on June 01, 2006, 02:02:17 PM
So, who won?  I was going to try to actually make this one, but then forgot.
Title: Calling out the AH P38 drivers
Post by: AutoPilot on June 01, 2006, 02:13:14 PM
The axis prevailed karnak.

I can't see?but yet you cry about the F3 view............
Title: Calling out the AH P38 drivers
Post by: Captain Virgil Hilts on June 01, 2006, 02:15:10 PM
I'd say the Axis won.

One thing I notice about these fast action set ups. It gives a distinct advantage to the defenders, especially if it pits heavily fuel loaded American iron against light weight Japanese planes in combat between bases in relatively close proximity,and also having a specific and known target. You'll almost invariably find Japanese fighters at 27K and up diving on the American planes as they cruise and climb slowly. Last night was no exception. As part of the lead group of P-38's, we circled back several times to stay close in front of the strung out bombers. When we were bounced, we were at 20-21K, with tanks on, at 180-200MPH. We were bounced by a string of Japanese fighters shallow diving from 25K to 27K. Not making excuses, just saying that when that happens, the escorts start out just trying to stay alive, and have no chance of really protecting anything but themselves, at least for a while. By that time, the defenders have time to get to the bombers.

That is just part of life when you have a fast action short time event, and there is little that can be done about it. Anything you might do will either prevent the action, or make the time frame considerably longer.
Title: Calling out the AH P38 drivers
Post by: Bronk on June 01, 2006, 02:41:21 PM
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Originally posted by AutoPilot
The axis prevailed karnak.

I can't see?but yet you cry about the F3 view............



No comment on the rest ehhh. Go crawl back into your dark corner .

Also i was under the impression snap shot was run like a mini fso.
I had asked in the fso why F3 was enabled and was promptly told because all guns cant be manned at once.  So F3 is suppose to simulate the eyes of multi gunners.

Auto if you have a problem with that take it up with the CM's.


Bronk
Title: Calling out the AH P38 drivers
Post by: Karnak on June 01, 2006, 02:43:08 PM
Captain Virgil Hilts,

Sounds like a reasonable analysis to me.  That does make it realy hard on the escorts as ideally they should be above the attacking fighters and able to dive on them to help the bombers.  Having the attacking fighters start with a 6k+ advantage really throws that out the window.
Title: Calling out the AH P38 drivers
Post by: Captain Virgil Hilts on June 01, 2006, 02:55:20 PM
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Originally posted by Karnak
Captain Virgil Hilts,

Sounds like a reasonable analysis to me.  That does make it realy hard on the escorts as ideally they should be above the attacking fighters and able to dive on them to help the bombers.  Having the attacking fighters start with a 6k+ advantage really throws that out the window.


That's just the way it seems to happen. I'm not really complaining, as it forces an extra challenge. However, it does skew the results some, and that upsets many. We were the highest of the escorts, there were five or six, including a few good P-38 pilots (I don't put myself in that category, I have my moments but I'm barely decent at best), and we were bounced from above.

I saw this happen in a recent FSO as well. In all three frames we were below the enemy regardless of what happened. In American iron, only a fool or a truly gifted genius climbs to fight a Japanese plane. Again, if you are going to have a short duration event, with a defined target the defense is aware of, it is going to be that way, and little can be done about it.
Title: Calling out the AH P38 drivers
Post by: Shifty on June 01, 2006, 03:35:23 PM
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Originally posted by Bronk
3rd I think there was a griefer in the mix. After checking the log matell shot down not 1.. not 2... but yes folks all 3 of the buff commanders B24s.
Something rotten in Denmark me thinks. No offence to the people from Denmark.:D

And since auto flies in da shade no idea how he did.



Bronk


Bronk.
There was no griefer. Mattel is new, and fragged 2slow by accident. In fact being his first time to man the guns on a buff, he probably couldn't have done it on purpose if he tried. I questioned him this morning, and he had no idea he had killed anybody but he stated he did fire at a Ki-61. Chalk it up to FNG. He just got to where he can fly fighters,there was a shortage of buffs so we got stuck in 24's.

BTW AutoPilot flies as Todd420.
Title: Calling out the AH P38 drivers
Post by: Bronk on June 01, 2006, 04:10:48 PM
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Originally posted by Shifty
Bronk.
There was no griefer. Mattel is new, and fragged 2slow by accident. In fact being his first time to man the guns on a buff, he probably couldn't have done it on purpose if he tried. I questioned him this morning, and he had no idea he had killed anybody but he stated he did fire at a Ki-61. Chalk it up to FNG. He just got to where he can fly fighters,there was a shortage of buffs so we got stuck in 24's.

BTW AutoPilot flies as Todd420.


Thanx shifty FNG is tolerable. It just looked funny when 2slows whole box was shot down buy him.

Thanx for the info.
Ohh and MR Mouth shot down NADA no assists either. Must be too dark in the shade to see the buffs.

Bronk
Title: Calling out the AH P38 drivers
Post by: Shifty on June 01, 2006, 05:40:53 PM
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Originally posted by Bronk
Thanx shifty FNG is tolerable. It just looked funny when 2slows whole box was shot down buy him.

Thanx for the info.
Ohh and MR Mouth shot down NADA no assists either. Must be too dark in the shade to see the buffs.

Bronk


Yeah he feels crappy about it. I've been flying AW, WB's, and AH for years, and last night was my first time in a B24. So I can imagine how lost he was. I would have rather been in a 38, but the squad flew 24's because that what was needed. Aplogies to the Allies.
Title: Calling out the AH P38 drivers
Post by: Captain Virgil Hilts on June 01, 2006, 05:43:07 PM
No apology needed. Most of us knew what we were in for, and we played anyway. It's just a game. I still had a good time.
Title: Calling out the AH P38 drivers
Post by: Murdr on June 01, 2006, 06:28:02 PM
Washed two Jap windscreens with blood and oil.  Distracted or delayed 3 more from making more than one pass on the nearest buff group.  Loitered for straglers, and RTB'd.  I could AAR a few operational issues, but that isn't important to me.  I had fun, and had the opportunity to fly with a few people I don't link up with often.  That's what matters to me .
Title: Calling out the AH P38 drivers
Post by: Ack-Ack on June 01, 2006, 06:32:20 PM
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Originally posted by Bronk


Thanx for the info.
Ohh and MR Mouth shot down NADA no assists either. Must be too dark in the shade to see the buffs.

Bronk


That also pretty much describes his record flying againt the P-38 in any plane.  And to think he actually thought he was trainer material.


ack-ack
Title: Calling out the AH P38 drivers
Post by: Shifty on June 01, 2006, 06:37:53 PM
I had one fighter get a run on my B-24s. He did a pretty fair job in one pass. I got PW'd and hung on that plane until I bled out. That was the only Japanese fighter that got close to me. The little friends in the 38's did an outstanding job from my POV.
Title: Calling out the AH P38 drivers
Post by: AutoPilot on June 01, 2006, 07:28:14 PM
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Auto if you have a problem with that take it up with the CM's.


I,m not the one on here crying about anything.

You guys really think your that special don't you?

You should all form a squad called:Hitech's Nuttsack Riders


Pretty good call on my part last nite seeing as i was the axis CO,you guys are so predictable,and the majority of the people that were axis were under 18.
Title: Calling out the AH P38 drivers
Post by: Shifty on June 01, 2006, 07:59:31 PM
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Originally posted by AutoPilot
Last time they ran this scenario i bagged 3 -38's.You act like no one can shoot you down in your  gayyyyyyyy 38.You all try the same weak arse moves and they never work.


This seems like the only statement in the whole thread where someone acted like they were special.:huh
Title: Calling out the AH P38 drivers
Post by: Bronk on June 01, 2006, 09:19:09 PM
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Originally posted by AutoPilot
I,m not the one on here crying about anything.

You guys really think your that special don't you?

You should all form a squad called:Hitech's Nuttsack Riders


Pretty good call on my part last nite seeing as i was the axis CO,you guys are so predictable,and the majority of the people that were axis were under 18.


Quote the whole thing tardling. Out of context means nothing.
You basically called me a noob be cause is said f3 was disabled.
Well Mr Knowitall it was suppose to be on . What now .
All I was doing was stating what happened to the buff flights and why fighters got scattered. Note I wasn't calling your tactics questionable or any attacks on you . But if ya want to start go ahead. The people on the bbs know your attitude anyway.


Ohh and as far as tactics go great call climb to 30k and wait for the climbing  allied. OMG I'd have never thought of that. :rolleyes:

Now crawl back under your rock like a good worm.

Bronk
Title: Calling out the AH P38 drivers
Post by: AutoPilot on June 01, 2006, 09:29:58 PM
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You basically called me a noob be cause is said f3 was disabled.


Judging from the results of the event you do need the F3 mode.

truth be told the buffs should have not had formations enabled,it's not like those Ki's are Uber bomber killers.


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The people on the bbs know your attitude anyway.


Like i care.


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Ohh and as far as tactics go great call climb to 30k and wait for the climbing allied.


Actually we were at 25-K the 38's were the Alt jockey's.


You are taking all of this way too seriously, Did you run out of Ridelin again?
Did mommy not pay enough attention too you as a child?
Title: Calling out the AH P38 drivers
Post by: Captain Virgil Hilts on June 01, 2006, 09:34:39 PM
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Originally posted by AutoPilot

 

Actually we were at 25-K the 38's were the Alt jockey's.


You are taking all of this way too seriously, Did you run out of Ridelin again?
Did mommy not pay enough attention too you as a child?


Tell you what goober, I have the film. I was flying a P-38 in the lead group, and we were engaged by HIGHER Japanese planes. Wanna reconsider the line of crap you're dragging out, or do you intend to try to stick with it?

Oh, and by the way, genius, the name of the drug is RITALIN.

Have a nice day.
Title: ?Who da?
Post by: SAS_KID on June 01, 2006, 09:42:24 PM
who is Autopilot?
Title: Calling out the AH P38 drivers
Post by: Bronk on June 01, 2006, 09:43:15 PM
Check it savage  ya cant argue with the Knowitall.

Now tardling reread what i said preferably with a dictionary by your side.

F3 is to simulate all the eyes in a buff .

If you didn't care you wouldn't be In da shade .COWARD
What you afraid of the bbs?  I'd say yea.

And we all know the problem here is your overload of self importance.

On second thought savage please post so Mr.Knowitall here can eat his words.

Auto how long before you change your ingame now ehhh.
Then we will see how much you care.



Bronk
Title: Re: ?Who da?
Post by: Bronk on June 01, 2006, 09:44:57 PM
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Originally posted by SAS_KID
who is Autopilot?


That would be Tard .... erm tod420. Well for now anyway but that probably will soon change. Cause he don't care about the bbs.:rolleyes:


Bronk
Title: Calling out the AH P38 drivers
Post by: Captain Virgil Hilts on June 01, 2006, 10:13:15 PM
I was able to view the film, or rather sections of it. However, since today's update, I'm getting film viewer errors. It clearly records the first sighting of Japanese planes by a U.S. fighter, and the call that they are at 27K. At that point we begin climbing. We were bounced by higher Japanese fighters, and some of us were able to retain our altitude while they dove through.

Bronk, if you want it, I'll email it to you if I can. It is about 1 hour long, so it is huge, and since my film viewer is acting goofy, I cannot edit the film, I can't keep it running long enough. I don't know if I can email a file that size. Even DSL has its limits on file size for emails.
Title: Calling out the AH P38 drivers
Post by: Bronk on June 01, 2006, 10:22:31 PM
Savage you have a PM.




Bronk
Title: Calling out the AH P38 drivers
Post by: AutoPilot on June 01, 2006, 11:15:29 PM
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and the call that they are at 27K.


We were at 25-K i have the film as well.I split the fighters into 2 groups, so i don't know how high the 84's were.




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but that probably will soon change.


You need too call Dionne Warwick cuz i am gonna change it,but this time not cuz my account was cancelled, i quit smokin pot so i don't want the 420 on the end anymore,the next Ingame ID will be Todd850s.


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Oh, and by the way, genius, the name of the drug is RITALIN


you must have read that off the bottle,and it seems like you and broke are Good Buddies so be a sport and hook him up with some of yours.

Now you gurls run along in your late war planes.
Title: Calling out the AH P38 drivers
Post by: Guppy35 on June 01, 2006, 11:39:28 PM
LOL!  Who cares.  I had fun and all I did was die.  Nice work btw WldThing.  Checked the film on who the Tony was that ran me down.  It was you.


What I enjoyed was seeing all those 38s up and about.  Sometimes just being able to pretend a bit makes it worthwhile to me.  

We clearly got too strung out with the buffs and the 38s, in particular our high bunch got in too deep to those higher birds.  But since I didn't really die and I got to fly with all those 38 drivers, it was good fun.

Interestingly enough I was reading the 8th FG history which includes the 80th Headhunters, and it talked about the use of 38s and how getting seperated from others in the flight was not a good thing for a 38 driver.

Figures I managed to do that and died :)

Now if I had it my way, there would have been an alt cap to keep the fight at historical altitudes instead of that who can get higher then the other guy fastest but.  But it still didn't matter.  I had fun and that's what counts.
Title: Calling out the AH P38 drivers
Post by: Bronk on June 01, 2006, 11:43:47 PM
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Originally posted by AutoPilot




 

the next Ingame ID will be Tard850s.


 



Thanx for the info.



Bronk
Title: Calling out the AH P38 drivers
Post by: p38ah on June 02, 2006, 02:11:04 PM
First time in one of these online AH wars. Remind me not to take high cover next time. There is more of a fight going on in here than I saw during the entire event.

Looks like we lost. Suggest we put the buffs on the deck next time if we don't have time to climb. P38's in two layers above and in sight. If they want the buffs dead they have to come down to a hard surface. All 38's should have a dedicated wingman and work in pairs.

pick
Title: Calling out the AH P38 drivers
Post by: AutoPilot on June 03, 2006, 10:39:21 AM
Oh no bronk pulled out out the "I'll edit it too make it look like you typed it trick"


I am so worried now...........
Title: Calling out the AH P38 drivers
Post by: Bronk on June 03, 2006, 11:52:53 AM
Autofellatio when self back patting just isn't quite enough.

Yea I think this best describes you.

Yea likely story as to why you going to change your ingame ID.
Your a little punk coward.
Go crawl into a dark corner of your room and spark up another .
That will help you back into your fantasy world .



Bronk
Title: Calling out the AH P38 drivers
Post by: AutoPilot on June 03, 2006, 02:25:11 PM
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Yea likely story as to why you going to change your ingame ID.


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Your a little punk coward


Look at your responses, all over a GAME.You really need too get some help B.

your like my 7 year old.you fly about the same as him too.:rofl :rofl :rofl
Title: Calling out the AH P38 drivers
Post by: Morpheus on June 03, 2006, 03:47:28 PM
...........BRONK:lol
Title: Calling out the AH P38 drivers
Post by: hubsonfire on June 03, 2006, 05:56:45 PM
Todd420 is a vulch account, and one that wouldn't know much about blasting P38s out of the sky. Surely that's not you?
Title: Calling out the AH P38 drivers
Post by: AutoPilot on June 03, 2006, 08:09:05 PM
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Todd420 is a vulch account, and one that wouldn't know much about blasting P38s out of the sky. Surely that's not you?



It's Joe Friday everyone.:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl
Title: Calling out the AH P38 drivers
Post by: Bronk on June 03, 2006, 09:03:59 PM
Autofellatio its not about the game . It is however about you thinking you are omnipotent in game. I'll say it again  I posted what had happened to allied .  But you felt the need to attack it . No problem  I can play the same game.



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your like my 7 year old.you fly about the same as him too



Really... suggest you look at the logs for that snap shot then .



Bronk