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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: AG Sachsenberg on May 10, 2001, 08:59:00 AM
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Just have to say WTF? If it isn't in Europe it is somewhere else. Hell we have never had one at a major event in the US. Well not this big at least, or as frequent.
http://www.cnn.com/2001/WORLD/africa/05/10/stadium.stampede.03/index.html (http://www.cnn.com/2001/WORLD/africa/05/10/stadium.stampede.03/index.html)
Bunch of knuckleheads
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dont mix real soccer fans with this "Hooligans", thank you.
Gh0stFT
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Have you ever seen a large group of people NOT scatter when being confronted with tear gas? Hitting people with tear gas on an open street is one thing, but in the confines of a staduim with limited number of egresses?
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Originally posted by Mickey1992:
Have you ever seen a large group of people NOT scatter when being confronted with tear gas? Hitting people with tear gas on an open street is one thing, but in the confines of a staduim with limited number of egresses?
What I am talkin about is all the chaos you see at these games. And I am not just mentioning just this one but all the ones you see in Europe as well. I have yet to see a major sporting event in the US like the ones you have. See we celebrate by rioting in the streets "After a major championship" where you can't get crushed as easily. Doing massive amounts of damage to local commerce, and tipping over squad cars.
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I would answer that but it would take tooooo long to type!! (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
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Originally posted by AG Sachsenberg:
What I am talkin about is all the chaos you see at these games. And I am not just mentioning just this one but all the ones you see in Europe as well. I have yet to see a major sporting event in the US like the ones you have. See we celebrate by rioting in the streets "After a major championship" where you can't get crushed as easily. Doing massive amounts of damage to local commerce, and tipping over squad cars.
The only trouble of your post is the "generalisation" not all football fan behave this way.
But as football is a sport for the masses you are likely to have bad people the percentage is perhaps low but they are realy violent.
And in this particular case (like the Heysel (sp?)) the trouble was due in large part because of the bad infrastructure.
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Originally posted by straffo:
The only trouble of your post is the "generalisation" not all football fan behave this way.
But as football is a sport for the masses you are likely to have bad people the percentage is perhaps low but they are realy violent.
And in this particular case (like the Heysel (sp?)) the trouble was due in large part because of the bad infrastructure.
Please see my second post and the sarcasm that is involved.
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I'm just waiting for RAM to chip in about how the worst football (sorry, 'soccer') fans are English.
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Because for the most part, the riots you see after major US sporting events are carried out by suburban white kids with something to prove. They are too chicken-shit to start something at the actual event, where there is a risk of being confronted by the authorities or getting their bellybutton kicked by a supporter of the other team.
Instead they take to the streets and Break Stuff (http://http://www.freddurst.com/lyrics/other/breakstuff.html), prolly humming some weak Limp Bizkit song as they do it.
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Heh, there are major works out on the soccer culture and the fan culture and I can only refer to them.
In short, soccer is a passion, not just a day out where you watch fat dudes bounce into each other while you have an excuse to drink beer. There are amazinhunks amongst the fans, and they ruin the experience for everyone but themselves. And they aren't well liked by fans.
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Originally posted by AG Sachsenberg:
Please see my second post and the sarcasm that is involved.
Well there is a lack of smiley in your post so I didn't got the sarcams at all ...
For me it was just an harsh comment...
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Well, I guess that doesn't happen in the states because most people there can be conceiling a gun... hard to riot when the guy in front of you can actually shoot you!
(http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
Yes, this was also intended as sarcasm (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
Daniel, aka Cyrano
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How many spectators travel to watch their team playing away in the US?
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Originally posted by straffo:
Well there is a lack of smiley in your post so I didn't got the sarcams at all ...
For me it was just an harsh comment...
That was a harsh comment? No no you cannot be serious? A harsh comment from me would be...
I have been sleeping with your wife for 6 months now. And we have never used protection.
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Originally posted by AG Sachsenberg:
That was a harsh comment? No no you cannot be serious? A harsh comment from me would be...
I have been sleeping with your wife for 6 months now. And we have never used protection.
Can't be true she snore a lot (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
btw don't forget that because I translate your post (English is not my native language) I can misundertood and mispost (perhaps that harsh was not the right term to use in this case).
So I will now post my answer in french up to you to find a good translator (hint : avoid web based translator (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif))
/native french
En lisant votre post j'ai cru comprendre qu'il était normal d'avoir un comportement de hooligan lors d'évènements sportifs.
/en native french
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Hey cut that french stuff out man. Or I'll start speakin jibberish to you. I hope you were not offended on the second post of the first offense? And BTW if since she does snore I feel your pain; literally LOL J/K.
Little tip ever want her to stop snoring quickly plug both nostrils with your fingers "worst case add your hand over her mouth". Scares the crap out of them and they will think twice now about snoring in bed after that (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif).
Whats with all the negative waves around here lately?
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Originally posted by AG Sachsenberg:
Hey cut that french stuff out man. Or I'll start speakin jibberish to you. I hope you were not offended on the second post of the first offense? <snip>
Na I'm not offended at all (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
btw ya can be more generous with smiley (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif) they cost almost nothing (limit is 8 per post) and if you pepper your post with it won't be take seriously.
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"In short, soccer is a passion, not just a day out where you watch fat dudes bounce into each other while you have an excuse to drink beer."
I take it you've never been to the United States and seen an NFL or college game?
Mk
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"In short, soccer is a passion, not just a day out where you watch fat dudes bounce into each other while you have an excuse to drink beer."
ROFL!!! oh man...
good one Santa (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
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I think cheerleaders are the funnies thing in american sports.... nothing to look at down on the field, might as well look at teenage girls dressed skimply jumping up and down.... oh boy... motivation though phedophilia... (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
<g,r,d>
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aka. Wing Commander fd-ski
Northolt Wing
1st Polish Fighter Wing
303 (Polish) Squadron "Kosciuszko" RAF
308 (Polish) Squadron "City of Cracow" RAF
315 (Polish) Squadron "City of Deblin" RAF
Turning 109s and 190s into scrap metal since 1998
Northolt Wing Headquarters (http://www.raf303.org/northolt/)
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LOL Fdski!!!
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Originally posted by fd ski:
I think cheerleaders are the funnies thing in american sports.... nothing to look at down on the field, might as well look at teenage girls dressed skimply jumping up and down.... oh boy... motivation though phedophilia... (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
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FD, maybe you should study the history of cheerleading before making stero-typed statements? I will grant you that Pro sports have embelished cheerleading to an extent, but it has a very nostolgic history. Please read on.(And note that all women in the NFL pro teams are 21 years of age)
It all began at a Princeton University football game. Thomas Peebler gathered 6 men who led a yell on the sidelines in front of the student body. In 1884, he took the yell to the University of Minnesota campus. On November 2, 1898, a cheerleader by the name of Johnny Campbell got so excited that he jumped out in front of the crowd.
In the 1870s, the first pep club was established at Princeton University and the following decade brought about the first
organized yell recorded at Princeton University. In the 1890s, organized cheerleading was first initiated at the University of Minnesota, as well as the first school "fight song". The 1900s introduced popular usage of the megaphone, which had
been in use on the day cheerleading began in 1898. The first cheerleader fraternity, Gamma Sigma, was also organized in the 1900s. The first "homecoming" was held at the University of Illinois in 1910. In 1920, yell leaders brought in drums and noisemakers. As football became more popular, so did cheerleading. Women became active in cheerleading in the
1920s. The University of Minnesota cheerleaders began to incorporate gymnastics and tumbling into their cheers and the
first flash-card cheering section was directed by Lindley Bothwell at Oregon State University. Then, in the 1930s, universities and high schools began performing pom-pon routines and using paper poms. In the early 1940's, when men went to war, women not only went to work, but also on to cheerleading squads. Cheerleading then became more as a female sport. Women were revitalizing the spirit when it was needed. When the men returned from war, new twists and turns were added. Gymnastics were always done by men, while the girls danced. This gave rise to dance teams.
In 1948, Laurence "Hurkie" Hurkimer (founder of the spirit industry) decided to organize the first cheerleader camp at Huntsville's Sam Houston University. Only 52 girls attended. The first cheerleading organization, National Cheerleading
Association (NCA), was founded. He created spirit slogans, ribbons, and buttons to raise spirit and money.
In the 1950s, college cheerleaders began conducting cheerleading workshops to teach fundamental cheerleading skills. The 1960's gave cheerleaders poms. The most widely recognized prop today. Paper poms were introduced in the 1930's and the modern vinyl pom was invented by Fred Gastoff, around 1965, and introduced by the International Cheerleading Foundation (now W.C.A.). The "Bruin High Step" style of pompon routine was developed by UCLA cheerleaders and the International Cheerleading Foundation. 1967 marked the first annual ranking of the "Top Ten College Cheer Squads"
and the initiation of the "Cheerleader All America" awards by the International Cheerleading Foundation. The Baltimore
Colts organized the first professional cheerleading squad in history. Up until then, high school squads were used on the
sidelines to promote spirit. Dallas Cowboy Cheerleaders created a pure pompon "Broadway-style" dance entertainment
for the crowds.
As the 1970s rolled in, cheerleading was building up an unstoppable momentum. In addition to cheering for the traditional
football and basketball teams, cheerleaders began supporting all school sports, sometimes selecting several different squads to cheer for wrestling, track and swimming. The first nation-wide television broadcast of the Collegiate Cheerleading Championships on CBS-TV in the Spring of 1978, initiated by the International Cheerleading Foundation. In
1976, the Dallas Cowboy Cheerleaders performed at Super Bowl X and started an evolution of "dancing cheerleaders." In
the 1970's, high school and collegiate cheerleading competitions began. In 1980, universal standards were set and safety
guidelines outlawed many dangerous tumbling moves and pyramids. National cheerleading competitions for junior and senior high school as well as collegiate squads took place across America. The I.C.F. Training Course for faculty cheerleading 'sponsors' and coaches was offered across the United States.
Today, collegiate pom and dance is a fast growing segment in the spirit industry. Cheerleading is now international, with
Japan, Europe, Australia, Canada, and Mexico promoting the sport. Cheerleading was created because one cannot spend their lives sitting in the stands just watching the game. The importance of cheerleading has also come a long way and was first acknowledged by Willis Bugbee in 1927, when he wrote: "The cheerleader, where once was merely tolerated, is now a person of real estate. His prestige is such that at many schools and colleges he must win his place in competitive examination." And it is true today, that a person must be highly skilled and competitive in order to achieve the honoured and respected position of cheerleader. This cherished position has, throughout the years, been held by some truly talented
people.
Famous Cheerleaders
Kirk Douglas
Terri Hatcher
Samuel L. Jackson
Dwight D. Eisenhower
Mary McDonnell
Reba McEntire
Cybil Sheppard
Jimmy Stewart
Meyrl Streep
Raquel Welch
Whether you are a cheerleader on an all female, an all male, or a co-ed squad, you are striving towards one goal. That goal
is to effectively lead a crowd in support of an athletic team and to generate spirit and pride within a school or community.
Today cheerleading enjoys a reputation of being an important leadership force on practically every high school and
college campus in America. All of this is because of a man named Johnny Campbell in Minnesota who couldn't stand
sitting in the bleachers. He had to be in front of them!
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[This message has been edited by Ripsnort (edited 05-14-2001).]
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No kidding Kirk Douglas? Who da thunk it.
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It's because the game is so damn boring. Being drunk + Being bored = Very bad things.
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