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Title: This Is Why I Do All Of My "Surfing" <nudge, nudge, wink, wink> at Home
Post by: SOB on June 04, 2006, 03:31:46 AM
It's got sex, it's got violence, it's got outraged citizens, an ambushing reporter and a pervy public pr0n surfer.  The only thing that would have made it better would be the reporter getting a black eye for badgering the perv's parents on their property.

*It's a broadcast news story, but all the same it might not be work safe.  As can be expected, it probably has a bajillion tracking cookies.

http://www.break.com/index/libraryjerk.html
Title: This Is Why I Do All Of My "Surfing" <nudge, nudge, wink, wink> at Home
Post by: Maverick on June 04, 2006, 08:05:01 AM
FWIW this is not an unusual or an isolated situation. This happens more often than you would believe.

My wife worked at a major university library for over 20 years before retiring. She had to call the University Police several times to get folks like the guy in the clip out of the building. Once the library went to a 24 hour operation it just got worse as the "street people" found out about it and tried to use it as a crash pad. There were tons of incidents of porn surfing during daytime hours and when kids were in the building.

Lots of University parents liked to drop their kids off as an impromptu day care while they went to class. The neighborhood had a junior high school a few blocks away where kids would visit the library after school. More than a couple sexual predators were arrested in the library.

The library will not restrict the computers from these kinds of sites even though the Police had to confiscate several computers that had been used to down and upload kiddie porn. The computers had to go in as evidence in those cases. The library even refuses to set up a seperate area with unrestriced internet access to get those folks away from the general library population as that would still constitute a case of defacto "censorship".
Title: This Is Why I Do All Of My "Surfing" <nudge, nudge, wink, wink> at Home
Post by: FUNKED1 on June 04, 2006, 10:18:18 AM
omg pwn3d
Title: This Is Why I Do All Of My "Surfing" <nudge, nudge, wink, wink> at Home
Post by: AlGorithm on June 04, 2006, 10:59:30 AM
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Maverick wrote;The library will not restrict the computers from these kinds of sites...

This is a question libraries have been facing for well over a decade. The bottom line is; it's nearly impossible to restrict access by technical means. There are many ways to subvert filters. Plus, with web hosting companies putting many sites on the same IP or block of IPs, censoring a porn site could also block sites with valuable resources.

Then there's the grey areas, like google image search and movies. And the nearly impossible task of maintaining a blacklist. And SSL tunnelling....

On a technical level, it just can't be done. Besides, this is not a technical problem. The technology is working the way it's supposed to work. It's a human behavioral problem, and that's how it should be addressed.

A timely example is in today's news;
Iran keeps its Guard up (http://ln-s.net/AYW)
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Many sites, including the BBC's popular Farsi service, have been blocked and filtered (often using North American-made software).
...
"I have at least 4,000 visitors to my Web site every day even though my site is blocked and censored heavily. The Iranian students are finding a thousand ways to get past the censors. They're even telling me that they're now building their own antijamming devices,"

(http://netsecs.us/dot.jpg)
Title: This Is Why I Do All Of My "Surfing" <nudge, nudge, wink, wink> at Home
Post by: Vulcan on June 04, 2006, 06:17:02 PM
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Originally posted by AlGorithm
This is a question libraries have been facing for well over a decade. The bottom line is; it's nearly impossible to restrict access by technical means. There are many ways to subvert filters. Plus, with web hosting companies putting many sites on the same IP or block of IPs, censoring a porn site could also block sites with valuable resources.

Then there's the grey areas, like google image search and movies. And the nearly impossible task of maintaining a blacklist. And SSL tunnelling....

On a technical level, it just can't be done. Besides, this is not a technical problem. The technology is working the way it's supposed to work. It's a human behavioral problem, and that's how it should be addressed.

A timely example is in today's news;
Iran keeps its Guard up (http://ln-s.net/AYW)

(http://netsecs.us/dot.jpg)


Bollocks, I do it at work with Sonicwalls, they can pick up http tunneling and proxy use as well. Their content filtering backends into Blue Coats system and from what I've seen its pretty accurate. We have Sonicwalls in some of the largets education sites in NZ doing this :)

(the only problem  we ever had was with some Macs, which turned out to be Safari not using RFC compliant tcp routines)
Title: This Is Why I Do All Of My "Surfing" <nudge, nudge, wink, wink> at Home
Post by: Sandman on June 04, 2006, 06:21:27 PM
The guy is an idiot.

Admit nothing.

Deny everything.

Make counter-accusations.
Title: This Is Why I Do All Of My "Surfing" <nudge, nudge, wink, wink> at Home
Post by: DiabloTX on June 04, 2006, 06:43:50 PM
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Originally posted by Sandman
The guy is an idiot.

Admit nothing.

Deny everything.

Make counter-accusations.


Debonair sez; :noid :noid :noid :noid :noid :noid :noid :noid :noid
Title: This Is Why I Do All Of My "Surfing" <nudge, nudge, wink, wink> at Home
Post by: DiabloTX on June 04, 2006, 06:51:01 PM
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This Is Why I Do All Of My "Surfing" at Home



***Note to self: buy as much stock in Kleenex as possible.
Title: This Is Why I Do All Of My "Surfing" <nudge, nudge, wink, wink> at Home
Post by: Neubob on June 04, 2006, 06:53:49 PM
Wow... Mike Cooper, newly-outed sexual deviant.

People like that should be locked into small rooms with high-speed access and not allowed to leave until they've jerked it to all the porn on the internet.

.... Hmm, come to think of it, sounds like a typical afternoon at the Neubob house.