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General Forums => Terrain Editor => Topic started by: USRanger on June 06, 2006, 03:30:16 PM
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Here's some screenies from the first test run of my winter map:
(http://img415.imageshack.us/img415/6038/s12pa.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)
(http://img415.imageshack.us/img415/8749/s20li.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)
(http://img415.imageshack.us/img415/3707/s30aj.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)
(http://img415.imageshack.us/img415/1199/s49yy.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)
(http://img415.imageshack.us/img415/9706/s54fx.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)
(http://img344.imageshack.us/img344/9065/s66uw.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)
(http://img344.imageshack.us/img344/8379/s76jc.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)
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FWAAAAAAAAAAAAGH THAT LOOK FARKING AWSOME
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WHHHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO NICE JOB!!
that looks awsome!!! woooooooooooooooot!
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Thx fellas! Glad ya like it. I've got 1 thing to work out, though. I made my 1st custom airfield in OE. I checked the appropriate 2 boxes in Properties, and set the correct type for each object. I built it and put the .shp file in my texsrc file, then built the map. My field has a VH and a BH, but no FH. Everything works fine, including the skins, except I have no hanger from the tower where you select ord, skin & that stuff. I can up a GV or bomber just fine, but have no hanger to choose my tank rnds., etc. I have hangers on the field and have labeled them correctly, and I can take off from them from tower. Anyone have any ideas?
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In OE; Shape: hgr0, Type: Hanger.
That'll get you going again.
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Thx bro, now I'm trackin'!:aok
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ranger if you were a girl, and i was old enough, id marry you. host this on H2H on the 7th, tomorrow.
ill be waiting...lol
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I'll be home around 5 pm EST. I'll put it up & leave it on all evening so you can check it out whenever you can. The hanger issue is fixed and I believe it is 100% good to go. Enjoy!:aok
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YYYYYYAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYY
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Jees! It looks brilliant! People would buy that no hassle!
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Thx Mac. More shots in the screenshots forum:D
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Hey ranger, anyway of being able to play on it?
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Gee, I need to learn how to make tiles and skins. Can you put a link up so we can download it?
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Bogie, here's the snow tile. Remember to resave it a an 8-bit bmp. & put it in yer map's texsrc file.
(http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/7417/snowterr2hp.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)
Here's the map for anyone wanting to check it out:
http://quick.dropfiles.net/download2.php?a=bca4bb752872ac1e18fe85d9861bf1e1&b=336d06d9b4bf4c79f197c460932eadda
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invalid download link. as the download link says
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I want this map now. It reminds me of the summertime in Ohio! It snows in May here in Cleveland, THE BEST city ever though!
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Amazing how 1 tile I posted ages ago circulates. :D
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Toadkill, try the link again. It worked fine for me when I just tried it. As for the tile, it's not from anything to do w/ AH. It came from a site that has a bunch of seamless tiles for website backgrounds.
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Invalid download link.
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oh and... the tile. If I save it as an 8 bit bitmap. Will I also get the small hills so GV's can hide behind them?
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(http://www.picturehosting.com/images/toadkill/thing.jpg)
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I'll try another host for the file. If you want the hills & no trees, rename the bmp to terr0004 or terr0006 in your texscr file.
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Ranger, why arent you hosting anymore?
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Originally posted by USRanger
I'll try another host for the file. If you want the hills & no trees, rename the bmp to terr0004 or terr0006 in your texscr file.
Well I want the trees. But I want to know if I save the file as an 8bit bitmap image. And I place the file in my texsrc folder. Will the hills and trees appear on the tile? Or do I have to place those manually?
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Originally posted by USRanger
Toadkill, try the link again. It worked fine for me when I just tried it. As for the tile, it's not from anything to do w/ AH. It came from a site that has a bunch of seamless tiles for website backgrounds.
Interesting since that tile is a part of experimental tiles I made a long time ago. Not that I care, it's just interesting.
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It sounds like someone lifted your whole set NHawk but most of the stuff on the net is copied and recopied from someone else's work. You'd at least appreciate an acknowledgement if not an at-a-boy when you catch someone using your stuff.
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Nah, I'm sure I posted it in a few places. And if I posted it on the web, so far as I'm concerned it's fair game.
There's only been on thing that was publicly available that I ever cared about. And that only took a single cease and desist letter for them to stop using it. Ticked off about 5000 people on AOL, but they stopped using it. :aok
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NHawk, if you made the tile, it's very nice & I'm sorry if it's out on the web. I'd never "steal" another players work on purpose. I'm a very honorable person. So as for you Easyscor, I don't need any lessons about manners & courtesy from some compu-dweeb. I've had plenty of training in those areas, thank you very much. I don't need some yay-hoo in some cubicle telling me when to say thank you. NHawk, if you posted it way back THANKS! (Better dweeb?)
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wow mates calm down. I think he was only pointing it out!
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I don't need some idiot I've never met try and tarnish my good name saying I "got caught" doing anything. I thought the tile was an original for AH since I got it off some website backgrounds site, which I've already said. I'm trying to re-find the site so I can post a link. If NHawk says he made it, I believe him & give him total credit. I accept him for his word, but I expect the same in return. I could have just as easily said "Oh yeah, prove it!" But like I said, I believe NHawk. So I don't need some moron saying I "got caught". If I was worried about that, why the fug would I post the texture pic? The only thing "getting caught" around here is Mr. Opinion's lip on my zipper. <
> NHawk for a beautiful texture. I will change mine to avoid further controversy.
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Ranger... calm down, use it. If it was something I really cared about it never would have been posted on the web. We're cool.
:aok
Edit: Once I sift through all of my CDs (about 1000) I'll WILL post the complete set for everyone to use as they like. It was part of this group...
(http://www.brewsterbuffalos.com/ss2.jpg)
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Now THAT is a beautiful terrain.
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Thanks Ranger...
I'll tell a little story here..
Way back in 2002 or 2003 I was fixated on pushing the limits and creating a photorealistic terrain for AH. Or, at least one very close to it. I experimented with tiles that entire time. I had a complete terrain ready to go, no frame rate hits, looked great. Then someone (this IS meant as humor) in his infinite wisdom decided to change the way the textures tile in the game and call it AH2. So, I experimented a little more and that shot is one of the results. Some of my experiments worked, some didn't. Some required the old way of tiling. Then I recall reading something about not being able to return to the old way the textures tiled (which we can force with the bitmaps and alphas). Once I saw that, I got so frustrated I completely stopped doing textures. I THINK I backed up all that I had and deleted them from my HD. I'm really not sure on that, I may have been ticked enough to just delete them. :(
This is an example of forcing the "old" way of tiling in AH2...
(http://www.brewsterbuffalos.com/expss.jpg)
I know, I know it's not exactly seamless but you get the idea. ;)
Anyway, until I get the bug again my texture creation days are over, as are my hopes of a photorealistic terrain in AH.
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Originally posted by Bogie603rd
Well I want the trees. But I want to know if I save the file as an 8bit bitmap image. And I place the file in my texsrc folder. Will the hills and trees appear on the tile? Or do I have to place those manually?
Bogie, sorry I think your post got lost in the shuffe.
The trees and hills are built in clutter in the TE/Game. If you make a part of the terrain "rock" you get the little hills. If you make it forest you get the trees, etc. You don't need to build each tile like I think, you think you do. :)
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AAAAh... I thought it was some algorithm to where you have to make 5 - 10 different tiles so the system "randomly" selectes which tile will be used to make it look realistic. Didnt realize it was a picture and the TE adds-on the hills and trees.
Thanks a lot NHawk, this will open up my world of tiling for sure.
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Think of everything in the game as a shape made out of crystal clear glass. Until you wrap it with a texture you can't see it. Any of the textures can be changed, thus changing the appearance of that item. It's still the same shape but looks different.
If you use the alphas in conjunction with the texture you can change the general appearance of an item. Such as trees can be changed from oak to palm.
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Nhawk, did u create that terrain?
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is there a setting for,
GVs bounce alot and cant move at anything above 5 miles an hour.
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if so, dont submit a map with it, or i will come trough there and kill you =D
that is all
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Originally posted by macleod01
Nhawk, did u create that terrain?
Yes I did. That is my experimental terrain done with the first release of the TE for AH2.
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HOLY... That is absolutly fantastic! Im amazed!
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All of my tiles are are mine:) I posted long, long ago HOW to make seamless tiles from a photo. I still think the lesson is floating around here somewhere.
it's really easy, AH1 really was easier to make tiles, and the submissive tiles or overlappng 1/4 tiles. AH2 is harder to make the "submissive" tiles,
But the alpha tiles have great potential for better seaming of 2 different tiles. The greatest thing i can see with AH2 editor that nobody seamed to do yet ( or I just haven't seen it) Is the water to land transition. Endless possibilities. I used a void used by the traget or some other object ( can't remember) reskinned it to look like waves, set 3 of them offset slightly from each other and 10 feet higher that each other, set them over the water and as you flew over it, it looked like it had movement and waves were lapping up the beach.
i Have many tiles to share, once i find a new hosting server i'll start posting some sets.
NUTTZ
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i was thinkin how kool it would be to create the Normanday landings. If we had Landing craft (PLEASE HTC!) it would be soo much fun!
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Ultimate link for ah2 editing -
http://www.accesswave.ca/~tscott/
Many good info and examples to explore on that site.
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Originally posted by NUTTZ
All of my tiles are are mine:) I posted long, long ago HOW to make seamless tiles from a photo. I still think the lesson is floating around here somewhere.
it's really easy, AH1 really was easier to make tiles, and the submissive tiles or overlappng 1/4 tiles. AH2 is harder to make the "submissive" tiles,
But the alpha tiles have great potential for better seaming of 2 different tiles. The greatest thing i can see with AH2 editor that nobody seamed to do yet ( or I just haven't seen it) Is the water to land transition. Endless possibilities. I used a void used by the traget or some other object ( can't remember) reskinned it to look like waves, set 3 of them offset slightly from each other and 10 feet higher that each other, set them over the water and as you flew over it, it looked like it had movement and waves were lapping up the beach.
i Have many tiles to share, once i find a new hosting server i'll start posting some sets.
NUTTZ
The pictures on that lesson you posted no longer work if I recall correctly, Can you post pictures of the waves from the water transitions? Maybe start a new thread, that really has me interested.
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Originally posted by Raptor
The pictures on that lesson you posted no longer work if I recall correctly, Can you post pictures of the waves from the water transitions? Maybe start a new thread, that really has me interested.
The cutting of the tile will still work for getting the tiles to be seamless.
The alpha tiles change the way the tiles overlap, so the lesson will still work to take a photograph and make it a seamless tile.
NUTTZ
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I have a copy of word document of that lesson with all the pics in it ( if i understand it's the lesson about seamless tiles you are talking here) i can email it if anyone wants:)
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Say Nuttz did you get your js working? It's good to see you back in here again.:aok
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Originally posted by Easyscor
Say Nuttz did you get your js working? It's good to see you back in here again.:aok
nope, i'll have to break down and buy a new js.
NUTTZ
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Try this. Copy and past this into Notepad. Rename it jsmap.cfg and save it to:
C:\Program Files\HTC\ah2editor\settings (save your old jsmap.cfg in case you need to compare later)
This puts forward at your joystick button 2 and reverse at buton 3 with working CH peddels. I had to guess that your joystick is stick 0 and your rudder is stick 1, it could be the other way around and your throttle could complicate it slightly. It's not that hard to figure out but if this doesn't work, PM the top half of your pre v2.08 patch 2 jsmap file down to But 6 or so.
0,0,Roll
0,1,Pitch
0,2,Throttle 1
0,-1,Throttle 2
0,-1,Throttle 3
0,-1,Throttle 4
1,2,Rudder
0,-1,Left Brake
0,-1,Right Brake
0,-1,View Pitch
0,-1,View Yaw
0,-1,Hat 1
0,-1,Hat 2
0,-1,Hat 3
0,-1,Hat 4
0,-1,Rpm 1
0,-1,Rpm 2
0,-1,Rpm 3
0,-1,Rpm 4
0,-1,Roll Trim
0,-1,Pitch Trim
0,-1,Yaw Trim
0,-1,
0,-1,
0,-1,
0,-1,
0,-1,
0,-1,
0,-1,
0,-1,
0,-1,
0,-1,
0,0,But 1
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Where are all the snowmen?:huh lol
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Originally posted by NUTTZ
....But the alpha tiles have great potential for better seaming of 2 different tiles. The greatest thing i can see with AH2 editor that nobody seamed to do yet ( or I just haven't seen it) Is the water to land transition. Endless possibilities. I used a void used by the traget or some other object ( can't remember) reskinned it to look like waves, set 3 of them offset slightly from each other and 10 feet higher that each other, set them over the water and as you flew over it, it looked like it had movement and waves were lapping up the beach.....
I don't think you can mess with the alphas too much, at least not without a ton of planning. I do believe that the same alphas that are used as transitions to differenct tile types are used as the shore line. So, you would have any "special" trasitions showing up where water and land meet.
However, the same 1/4 tile is still used as the transition in conjunction with the alpha. terr000X is always the transition tile divided in 4, covered by the corresponding alpha quad.
Originally posted by NUTTZ
....i Have many tiles to share, once i find a new hosting server i'll start posting some sets.....
Sure, after 2 years of inactivity I bring ah-terrains down last month and NOW someone is actually ready to share. :)
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See, same thing happens with me. I shut down an old AIM site of mine a while back. Two weeks later to this day im getting inquiries about what happened to it and when it will be back up!
Amazing what all pops-up when you dis-connect a site.
Hey USRanger, when will we get a working link to download the map? I'm really anxious to get my greasy hands onto it! (I like to get ideas from other people's terrain. And no, I dont copy. Just look at different terrains and try to "mix them together" or make my own resembling the original)
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yep keep working on the download link, i need the IL-2 and Stuka skins.
need
NEED
NEED
NEEEEEEEEEEED
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Rgr. I'll find a host asap.:aok
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If you want (And if CSpaced doesent mind) I will host it for ya!:aok
Link would be:
http://603sqdrn.collectivelyspaced.com/whatever.zip
(I preffer .zip files. If you cant do that, I can for free. Just e-mail me the .res file and I'll zip it.)
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Let's try this one:
http://s2.gimehost.com/v/6279088/1_WinterWar.res.html
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WOO HOO! Thanks man. Let's see how it looks offline.
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Uhm... howcome when I go to practice offline. Does the map reset to ndisles?
I go to "Choose Terrain" and select: WinterWars (renamed it, but not the .res part)
then after I press "OK" or "Load Terrain" it resets to ndisles.
Either when you uploaded to host, it corupted the file. Or somehow the new patch did something to it. Do you mind just e-mailing it to me?
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I noticed that too. Apparently any maps w/ custom bases can't be loaded offline because it interferes w/ the stock "bad guys" that come w/ the offline mode. What I do to chk out these maps is host it in H2H and title the room TEST-Do not join. Once in a while someone can't read, but usually you are left alone to chk it out.
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Or just host it and change "Players" to 0
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Wait, I figured out why. The name of the terrain is more than 8 chars long. So it wont load offline. Just change the name and it works!
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I spoke too soon. I tried working it offline. It acts just like Rpearl. Loads then throws you back to main menu. Then the clipboard performs "aerobatics".
I tried H2H. When the map loaded, threw me back to desktop and exited AH. Somehow this new patch must be interfering with your terrain.
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were do i save it to? maps or skins?
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were do i save it to? maps or skins?
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oops double post sorry
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Save it into your AHIITerr file.
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got it! yes! thank you SOOO very much!!
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damn the skins dont show in offline mode, there not there:cry
i cant load the map offline either:cry :cry
im so sad:cry :cry :cry
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Can anyone READ?:mad:
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lol, apparantly not bogie! Pity really, thanks for pointing out that it doesnt work offline! Im in tears now!:cry
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Alright, let's settle this. If I host it, when can you guys play (in Eastern U.S. time)? I'd be happy to host it so u guys can check it out. I don't know what is causing the problems. I've seen other people hosting it, so I know it works on more than just my pc. But these other hosts had played the map w/ me & downloaded it that way, so maybe ya just gotta play it 1st. I really don't know.
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Called my brother-in-law to see if he had any problems. He downloaded it off the same link I gave ya. He said all was fine, skins were there, & he was hosting it at this very moment. I'm just trying to sort the prob. out, since it is working for some, but apparently not others. Hmmm
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Originally posted by macleod01
lol, apparantly not bogie! Pity really, thanks for pointing out that it doesnt work offline! Im in tears now!:cry
Your welcome.
And USRanger, why dont you jsut e-mail it to Mentalguy, Macleod01, and me? That way we wont have to mess around with links.
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Yea im happy with that!
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Just so you know, USRanger told me he doesent have an e-mail server with enough file size to send the files. I went ahead and sent him a free G-Mail invite, no word yet if he has accepted it.
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Sir, Permission to go into the corner and cry, sir?
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Email received Bogie. Thx. Been swamped w/ life right now. Definitely this week.
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That's good to hear Ranger. Once again, it's completely free!
At ease macleod01
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I just tried your link and it came up with the "page cannot be displayed message"
:furious :furious :furious :furious :furious :furious :furious :furious :furious :furious (army of timmies)
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I'm setting up a g-mail account today(thx Bogie). My regular email account will only let me send 2meg or less emails. The map is 2.5megs. With this new account, I'll be able to email it to whoever wants it. Just PM me your email addresses.
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Okay ranger, will do. GMail should tell me when you have your account set-up, that way I can e-mail you for the terrain.
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When I try ur 2nd link, it has the "Page Cannot Be Displayed" Link instead, what do i do?(I WANNA TRY OUT THIS MAP):cry :cry :cry :cry :cry
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We bin through this already. Read the posts, we know it doesnt work
Ranger, you think you could put it up for a test in 8 player or tell me how to email you in order to get it?
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Okay, Ranger, just host it, and in about 2 weeks, everyone will get a copy from the fast-moving community.
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I believe I've got it hosted correctly now. Try this link. I'm currently working on a newer, larger winter map with several new winter terrain tiles. Someone try this link & let me know if it works plz.
http://www.freewebs.com/rainja/WinterWar.res
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Downloading! THANKS YOU SO MUCH RANGER! Will let you know if it works or not, but the link works anyway
EDIT : Ok downloaded fine, and ive put it in Terrain file. Its there for selection in game (offline mode i mean) But when i click on it, it defaults back to IndeIsles! Any reson? This is all my stupidity im sure. So can you talk me through how to get it to work?
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is the terrain name bigger than 8 letters?
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darn, bet thats it aint it
Edit: Ok now it just goes weird. I select it, it starts to load then goes back to main menu! It constantly does this!
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Host it in H2H Mac. I think the custom bases & such screw with the offline drone part of the program. It does the same for me, always has. Host it and all will be well.
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BTW, if you only want the aircraft/vehicles with winter skins, only use all the GVs, IL-2, C-47 & stuka. Disable the rest.
P.S. Enjoy the ack!
(http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/6164/violentsmiley050vb4.gif) (http://imageshack.us)
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Custom objects shouldn't have any effect on the oflline mode drones. I am testing a GV terrain right now which has custom objects and has no problems with offline mode. That it can only be played in through hosting it is quite astonishing.:huh
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Originally posted by USRanger
Host it in H2H Mac. I think the custom bases & such screw with the offline drone part of the program. It does the same for me, always has. Host it and all will be well.
Still no go! Just goes back to main menu. Ive tried in LAN and Internet host, wont let me host it! This is starting to bug me! Any advice?
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Have you tried it yet Bogie?
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man i have never seen so many people from pennsylvania on this website!
ranger and i think that is a great idea i could barely even see the vehicles!
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Originally posted by USRanger
I'm setting up a g-mail account today(thx Bogie). My regular email account will only let me send 2meg or less emails. The map is 2.5megs. With this new account, I'll be able to email it to whoever wants it. Just PM me your email addresses.
hey that is cool i have a G-mail account to!
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Originally posted by USRanger
Let's try this one:
http://s2.gimehost.com/v/6279088/1_WinterWar.res.html
it does not work! may i sugjest photobucket.com?
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So, any chance this will be hosted again?
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taylor, that's the wrong link. Use the freewebz link a few posts above this.
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will u just P.M. me ur g-mail account i have a g-mail account 2!
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Here ya go Taylor:
http://www.freewebs.com/rainja/WinterWar.res
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doesn't work!
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I haven't tried it USRanger, maybe the map is "out of service". How about after I debut my new GV terrain (1 week estimate due to testing, its done though). we work on a new Winter map?
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I got an idea! How about a winter Russia terrain? That would be cool!
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Siberia?:rofl
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yeay is it the one with the pt boat under the bridge?
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how about a "into germany" map? hey i down loaded the thing so i can create my own map!
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Originally posted by Bogie603rd
Siberia?:rofl
That would be EASY!!! All you need is white!
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How about after I debut my new GV terrain (1 week estimate due to testing, its done though). we work on a new Winter map?
Roger Bogie. I've got 5 new winter textures and a lot more experience for this new one.
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Sounds great, need some custom objects?
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I do bogie. Just pm me the stuff and where to put them and that'll do just fine!:aok :D
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Sounds great, need some custom objects?
But of course!
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Hey, can I get a PM when either of the winter maps get hosted?
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I'll put it up tomorrow (Wed. 9/27) in the evening EST. See ya then.
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Can I get a time EST? I need to go out and get my student pilot certificate so I can solo, and I want to be home.
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I'll put it up 5-10pm EST.
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Okay, so 11:00 to 16:00 my time. YAY!!! Also, if there are some things you guys think are easy and you can teach me, I would be glad to help you guys out, make things easier for you.
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Reynolds, have you already made a terrain, cause this is WAY advanced!;)
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Naw I havnt. I was thinking just doing some of the boring easy stuff to make things easier for you guys.
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Forgot to ask, whats the arena going to be called? Im looking right now...
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Well, the boring easy stuff can be done in 3 minutes. But i'm sure USRanger appreciates it.:aok
Then again we can use you as an official terrain tester.
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YAY!!! But again, hes hosting it right now, apparently, but I dont know which room to go to...
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Check them all....
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I hosted today from 5-6:30 pm. Only 2 people joined and they each quit after getting killed the 1st time. Very boring. I'll put it up tomorrow at 5pm EST. It'll be called Winter map w/ skins. See ya then hopefully
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Ill see if I can make it then... it will be kind of a bad time, but I will try. Thanks!
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Originally posted by USRanger
I hosted today from 5-6:30 pm. Only 2 people joined and they each quit after getting killed the 1st time. Very boring. I'll put it up tomorrow at 5pm EST. It'll be called Winter map w/ skins. See ya then hopefully
hey i saw someone trying to host it but i could not get on it said 0/8 players it started to load then it said host conection lost
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Sorry Ranger, want able to make it, though I really wish I had.
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Tomorrow, same time?
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lol. Thanks, but I have a bunch of tests. Sunday is the next time im free. If you can host it then, I will bring my whole squad. I know they would love it.
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how long was it up for yesterday????? i didn't make it either! how about u do do it same time today but not same time about 6 eastern time?
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what is the map called i want to host it!?!?!
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WinterWar. Denholm & I will soon be starting on a new, larger winter map. It's still in the plotting & planning stages though.
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but i don't have it