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General Forums => Hardware and Software => Topic started by: [Sg]ShotGun on June 09, 2006, 10:21:59 PM
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my version of Pro is 4 yrs now and its what I use for reinstalls...think iv reloaded it like 6 times now on dfferent comps and drives.
but is pro good for AH or it dont matter?
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i got xphome i got it about 6 mnths ago upgraded from ME.
ince abot a month ago since he b17s arried i had nothing but problems with it
so in my view xphome sucs
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Rogerdee - upgrading any version of Windows generally gives you problems, if you ever get a chance try this method.
1) Start with a clean drive.
2) Fire up the machine with the XP CD in.
3) At some point it will ask you for a qualifying product.
4) Put in the Me CD
5) It reads a few files then asks you to put the XP CD back in.
This way no part of Windows Me gets installed.
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Shotgun no significant difference between them for AH.
Pro has better networking support which could be a small plus.
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I have XP Home upgraded since Win 3.1. I have no problems with it. On a clean install, you will need to have a Win 98, or ME disk to pop in when it asks.
Better yet, I like to buy a new drive when I do a clean install. This way it makes it easy to transfer all the files without forgeting something. If XP can see the old install on the other drive, you will not need to insert the ME disk.
In my opinion, XP Home is all you need with small home networks. I use XP Pro at work, and I have XP Home on a 3 PC home network. From a users view, there is no difference. Unless your a network control freak, Home works just fine and will save you a few bucks.
Gunner
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I have home & pro too, I use home on my new game P/C & it runs AH just fine, no different than the pro does.
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XP Home allows only 5 machines to be connected on the same network. My family has 5 PCs plus a win98 print station, plus a laptop. Pro seems to have a few benefits. At the time I picked Pro I didn't realize what the difference was. Now I'm happy I made the choice.
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Krusty,
How does XP Home limit the network to 5 PCs? The number of PCs on a network is a function of a router or hub/switch, not the PC operating system.
I think the major difference is in advanced file sharing (ex. more ways to limit folders and files from others on your network) and connecting to network domains. There are others but nothing you need for a home network.
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/home/howtobuy/choosing2.mspx (http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/home/howtobuy/choosing2.mspx)
If any user on my system violates any network rules in my house, I can spin my chair around and smack them along side the head. Let's see XP Pro do that :)
Gunner
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Gunner I don't know the specifics. That's Windows' description of what it does, not mine :) "Up to 5" computers networked together listed on the box. XP does not list a limit.
Maybe they don't recognize each other after that? Not sure. As-is my home network is mixed Pro/Home combination, we go through a port, and we have no problems (that is, as long as the port has DHCP, or whatever the protocol is that assigns subnet masks)
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XP home networking difference is that you can not join a domain or active directory with it. Has nothing to do how you can play games or anything like that.
Also XP pro has built in encryption of files, and IIS web server.
There is no difference how you can play games so if you got PRO use it.
If you want a new system, you can save a few dollars with HOME.
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well my version of xp pro is 2002, and iv tried to install it now on me nu 160g sata drive and it stops ded with an error of 'machine exception' or sumting like that...so im gonna bite the bullit and buy xp home..the only prob is that i dont have 98 or me.
does this me xphome is no go for me?
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Well if you don't hae 98 or ME and you want to buy an upgrade, you MIGHT be able to install the XP home upgrade, and when it asks for a qualified product insert the XP Pro CD, and then it might let you.
I'd say if you already have XP Pro find out what's causing this error and work around it. It's a perfectly valid product, and if XP Pro gives you an error XP Home might as well.
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If you have the pro, it will install, but maybe it will not install on the file system that ME uses, without formating.
If that is the case, XP home will not install either.
I recall that XP stoped support for some file system. Maybe FAT or FAT32, and that would be your problem right there.
BUT I would never install on an old operating system, I would do a clean isntall on that drive.
That is in the install options, remove the old partition and create an new one. Then format.
This will destroy all data and XP should install fine.
But you have to backup first, because this will destroy all the data, pictures, documents what have you.
Did I mention that you will loose all your data if you do this?
So backup any data you realy need, and then destroy the pratition using the on screen instructions.
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XP stopped support for FAT16. Fat32 is default, and it supports NTFS.
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Is fat16 = fat?
btw, I am totaly confuced about this thread now lol
Does SATA need a driver disk for hardisk when installing?
Or maybe its just if one had SATA with RAID ?
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well woo whoo
i found the copy of 98 that i use on my RC helicopter laptop.
soooooooo iv got nutin else to do this afternoon, ill be trying to install 98se.
im did not install xp OVER anything, its always a fresh install on a new or reformated drive...but the only utility i have that will format a drive is the win98 boot diskette and it only recognized fat or fat32 DOS partitions. even so, it dont see the whole drive, only 22g of it :(
even using the utility supplied by the drive it self is not stellar, as it wont format over 137g. but i suspect it isnt even formating the drive anyway, as when i choose that option, the task is complete in only 10seconds...i suspect it only prepares the MBR and than releys on the OS CD to format the drive.
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well that didnt work...even 98 wont install on this drive..perhaps its the drive?? but when i put in a known working drive (EIDE), it fails to boot too. i can get into safe mode but thats it.
can the MB be damaged?
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wait a sec...if i buy the XPhome upgrade version will it install on a fresh drive that has no OS on it if i have the win98 cd handy??
i mean, when upgrading, does the fresh drive have to have an OS on it?
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I know for a fact that XP Pro does just that. Home shouldn't be any different. I have an upgrade version. I put the XP disc in the drive, boot from that, and it starts the install process. It stops, asks me to put the old software disc in, reads the disc, verifies it, and then says "put the XP disc back in" and continues a fresh install.
Works on Pro, should work on Home.
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SG,
If XP Pro upgrade will not work, then XP Home upgrade will not work any different when you re-install.
It sounds like your problem may be the drive. You may be better off buying a new hard drive, then wasting money on another upgrade version of XP.
Gunner
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my CD of XP is the full version, not the upgrade. the only thing old in this madness im dealing with is the OS, which is a 2002 version, everything else is nu.
im thinkin of the upgrade version of home because its the most affordable, about 80$. the full version of xp home and pro is 200$/300$ respectively.
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Originally posted by [Sg]ShotGun
my CD of XP is the full version, not the upgrade. the only thing old in this madness im dealing with is the OS, which is a 2002 version, everything else is nu.
im thinkin of the upgrade version of home because its the most affordable, about 80$. the full version of xp home and pro is 200$/300$ respectively.
You will need the following to install XP Home or Pro -
A floppy disk with the SATA driver on it.
When you boot with the XP CD watch for a screen near the start that says press F6 to install additional drivers (or something like that)
Press F6 and put the SATA driver floppy disk in.
Follow the prompts.
Failure to do this will result in XP not finding the SATA drive later on during the install.
Note - It will say SCSI drivers on the F6 screen, ignore it, it applies to ANY additional mass storage controllers.
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The "new" XP is the same "XP" as you got. It only has the free patches that MS has relased since.
It is possible to "slipstream" a new XP CD, so it has SP 2 ready on it. Google it, im sure you find how to do it.
Still you should be able to install the original XP on the disk.
Make sure you dont do a "repair" or attempt to use the old partition.
Delete the partition and then format. XP install CD has that option. Not just the win98.
But if you got problems now also with win98 installation, you can have hardware problems. All from disk to mother board.
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Originally posted by Kev367th
You will need the following to install XP Home or Pro -
A floppy disk with the SATA driver on it.
Note - It will say SCSI drivers on the F6 screen, ignore it, it applies to ANY additional mass storage controllers.
really!!!..the CD that came with the drive gave no indication a driver would be needed, but the MB CD had such an option...thats a wonderful addition Kev...thanks :)