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Title: Let us be Troops too...
Post by: GlacierGirl on June 10, 2006, 10:24:39 PM
This game has evalved into more than a flight simulator with the addition of GVs and CVs. lets throw in the last major aspect of WWII, Infantry. Let us be Infantry, give us Tommy Guns and M1 Garrands Colt .45s and Bazookas and throw us into a town so we can duke it out against the other players. We could pick a guy in the hanger, and a weapon set of a Bazooka for hitting tanks and a pistol for other Infantry people, or Tommy guns, Springfield 1903's, MP45s. I have played against other people in Chutes, IT ROCKS. It wouldnt take much coding, I dont think. they dont have to be detailed, just change the uniforms like skins on planes and weapon sets like those of the planes. It would be like being a chute, only youll have more options and dont have to take a plane. It could be made that us as Infantry can take a base just like the computer troops.  We could have People in jeeps drop us off places, have it say XXXXX landed 7 victories as a commando. Even more things for planes to strafe and tanks to shoot. It would be Great guys. :aok
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Post by: mussie on June 10, 2006, 10:50:03 PM
plant mines on the runway LOL
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Post by: cav58d on June 11, 2006, 02:23:49 AM
I love the idea...Maybe one day, but I have zero faith we will see anything like this within the next half decade lol
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Post by: benytree on June 11, 2006, 01:33:47 PM
awsome! im loving the idea. :aok
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Post by: RTSigma on June 11, 2006, 03:51:46 PM
WWII Online offers all of this.


However, I don't think it'd be a good aspect to offer here in AH2.
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Post by: GlacierGirl on June 11, 2006, 04:28:45 PM
I dont want to play WWII Online. I want to play Aces High. They would have nothing to lose by adding it to AH2. It would be another selling point for new people, and another fun option for all of us who have been playing for a while. There is no other game out there that has the same magnetic feel as AH2.
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Post by: croduh on June 11, 2006, 04:30:43 PM
Maybe in AH3.5.












WOAH!!!Did i just say AH3???:O
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Post by: Pooface on June 11, 2006, 05:56:39 PM
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Originally posted by GlacierGirl
They would have nothing to lose by adding it to AH2.



yes they would, they would lose the playerbase.

AH doesnt want 10 yr old kids with no credit card diluting the game community with leetspeak and inaudibly high voices on vox. seriously, if you like AH as it is now, adding FPS would totally ruin it.

if you want ground war go play COD or WW2OL, but not in AH please
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Post by: Meatwad on June 11, 2006, 06:16:01 PM
AH2 already has a FPS in it


Its called "bailed pilot"
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Post by: benytree on June 11, 2006, 07:11:27 PM
I love it, you get my vote again : P
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Post by: cav58d on June 11, 2006, 11:45:46 PM
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Originally posted by Pooface
yes they would, they would lose the playerbase.

AH doesnt want 10 yr old kids with no credit card diluting the game community with leetspeak and inaudibly high voices on vox. seriously, if you like AH as it is now, adding FPS would totally ruin it.

if you want ground war go play COD or WW2OL, but not in AH please


So whats to say CT what draw in this same exact crowd?  HT has said that CT is specifically targeting a new crowd and player base.......

and yea, I hate hearing 10 year old kids squeek on the radio, but the simple solution is to squelch...(please add perma squelch HTC)....That said, there is nothing wrong with new players....Just because "we saw the band first, and own the t-shirt" doesnt mean it is exclusive to us, and anyone who hasnt joined past AHV2.08 patch 1 cant be part of the club
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Post by: mussie on June 11, 2006, 11:52:57 PM
I regularly find myself harassing OSTIES with my little ol 45 when they shoot my prettythang down over a base.

If you use the run key you can strafe faster than their turret can turn (alomost) and have a great old time plinking them as the shoot at your buddies LOL......
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Post by: Platano on June 12, 2006, 01:00:42 AM
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Originally posted by mussie
I regularly find myself harassing OSTIES with my little ol 45 when they shoot my prettythang down over a base.

If you use the run key you can strafe faster than their turret can turn (alomost) and have a great old time plinking them as the shoot at your buddies LOL......



lol sounds like fun....but honestly I think it'l be another 5 years before the staff even THINKS about adding something like that.... then  IT'll be another 2 years for them to actually put it in the game so I would stop thinking about it if I were ya..but it sounds like a good idea though.... If anything it will be introduced in the year 2026 in AH VI  :lol

How bout instead of troop fights we can add submarines and U-boats to go along with the cv's..I think that sounds more realistic
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Post by: cav58d on June 12, 2006, 02:09:24 AM
I believe Hitech made comments a while back talking about his interest in developing subs in the future...That said, I dont think its a very high priority for the staff, but atleast their thinking about it...
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Post by: bkbandit on June 12, 2006, 03:11:55 AM
There enuff younger kids runing around with out adding fps, it wont change the type f player that comes to the game it will just let the game grow and get that hardcore fps crowd. They should do fps, ww2 wasnt fought only in the air, and if this was a pure air combat game there wouldnt be gvs.  With the new maps from tour of duty nice big citys i think u need to have tanks and troops fightin it out on the streets.  They added a "jeep", this thing would rock if we had fps, it would be just like the halo truck.  It could speed in guns blazing.  If u guys think that its goin to invite a bad crowd i would worry, it can only get better. Then maybe instead of eing captured u could just grab a gun and keep fightin or jump on the 50 cal on the jeep and fight ur way home.
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Post by: Platano on June 12, 2006, 03:53:48 AM
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Originally posted by bkbandit
They added a "jeep", this thing would rock if we had fps, it would be just like the halo truck.



:lol  true!

Kewl brooklyn??? where in BK??
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Post by: GlacierGirl on June 12, 2006, 12:57:36 PM
I myself have bailed out and shot up an M16 or two. Imagine how cool it would be if it was made that you could really dissable GVs like that, or how much fun it would be if you could drive a jeep to the action, get out and be in the middle of a huge firefight with tanks destroying buildings around you and planes flying 15 feet over your head strafing obsticles in your path. Have you ever been on the runway and some guy in a chute comes up and starts unloading 20 something .45 rounds into your canapy. You and a couple other guys on your squad or anybody who wants to come can pick up a rifle and drive out and take care of the problem in jeeps and trucks. It could be made that you as a troop can lay land mines and hide in bushes, use bazookas to help blast tanks out of one of your friends way. This would make the Pintle and hull guns more useful. I dont think there would be a problem with more people coming to play the game. It would spread the word of AH. So what if they were people who played Medal of Honor or Ghost Recon. You can play games that others dont and still be a nice person. Besides not all people who play FPS are 10 year old kids with high pitched voices, I know alot of people who are 45 and play those games. With the addition of us being Infantry it would deffinantly attract more people to AH, and with more people there would be more requests and input which HT would most likely act on, which in turn would do nothing but improve the game.
:aok
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Post by: Platano on June 12, 2006, 02:35:10 PM
glacier girl you are right ...but the only thing to be worried about is the land mines part.....that will create a whole new aspect to the word "vulch"
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Post by: viper215 on June 12, 2006, 03:09:27 PM
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Originally posted by duh
Maybe in AH3.5.













WOAH!!!Did i just say AH3???:O



2 weeks :aok
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Post by: bkbandit on June 12, 2006, 03:16:32 PM
yea it will, the vulchers really make the rankings meaningless. A guy will have a rank of 20 and cant dog fight to save his life.  But hes the first one on the scene to vulch the hell out of a field or camp out at a spawn point. They just need to fix the scoreing to reflect that. If u looked at a guys score and all the fighters he killed are on the ground it will just let u noe how corny he is.

Right now im in gravesend.
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Post by: GlacierGirl on June 12, 2006, 07:08:35 PM
It could be made so that land mines wouldnt work on runways, Because in real life, providing the runways are cement, you wouldnt be able to hide them and any pilot/crew chief would easially see it and remove it. So for the game they just wouldnt explode on runways making it fair to pilots taking off.
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Post by: mussie on June 13, 2006, 07:11:37 AM
Stick the land min in the middle of the runway...... Then hide in a hanger and laugh your tits off as the crashed on take off when they saw them but were going to fast to stop.....

Yeah i know it not a good idea  but I just had to say it
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Post by: scottydawg on June 13, 2006, 11:06:52 AM
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Originally posted by Pooface
yes they would, they would lose the playerbase.

AH doesnt want 10 yr old kids with no credit card diluting the game community with leetspeak and inaudibly high voices on vox.


Apparently you haven't been in the TA or a Bish lately.

:cool:
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Post by: bkbandit on June 13, 2006, 03:48:50 PM
Fps would just help the game more and make the war more complete. I have a feeling AH wants to do it.  THEY ADDED A JEEP:lol .  Alot of the young kids wont bother with this game because it aint star fox, as soon as they take there beatin the go play somethin else.  Alot of the top guys that play those fps games arent 12 years old. I have seen requested for more tanks and other ground units, it just makes sense to get some troops in the action. The c47 would get more play by pickin up and paradropin soliders not just by gooning. Then u could have troops invade a base plant bombs on there supplys and take out hangers. A group of soldiers will be able to cap a base alone, instead of dropin them retarded goons that run into the field gun.
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Post by: GlacierGirl on June 13, 2006, 06:56:11 PM
Im glad so many of you would like to this added as much as I do. Is there a way we can get HTs attention for this subject, It wouldnt be that hard to add this stuff and wouldnt take much time I dont think. Is there a patition or something that we can sign to show how many of us want it added.:aok
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Post by: bkbandit on June 13, 2006, 08:24:47 PM
A halo rip off or a medal of honor rip would be a solid control format. Theres millions of fps games set in ww2 so it shouldnt be hard to look for somethin to go by. BUt they need to set it so there is just one guy that can talk to the guys in the air, i dont need 20 guys on the ground screamin up at me "kill this panzer". They might have to make some changes to the maps but i really want to see this happen.  Bazookas, machine guns, grenades, land mines, and sniper rifles should be enough to make troops on the ground very dangerous. I guess u just make up a generic soldier and let him pick his gear before he leaves. The c47s jeeps lvts and m3s would play a bigger role with some fps.

I really want to see this happen, if u want to start a patition put me on it.
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Post by: SAS_KID on June 13, 2006, 08:55:15 PM
why have this???? Next thing you know all the CS dweebs will be fighting it out for A WHOLE 2 WEEKS! OMFG 2 WEEKS WOW! Cmon the hull guns are usful for taking out troops. Plus, it would make a brand new vulch system. Next thing you know some 1337 sniper will be picking off pilots in their planes as they try to lift off. Or they will set up bazooka raids to vulch and pork. Plus, how would you like to travel for an hour to get across 3/25ths of a sector?
Title: Let us be Troops too...
Post by: GlacierGirl on June 13, 2006, 11:28:17 PM
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the hull guns are usful for taking out troops.

 Haha, Yes my point exactly, With us being troops, there will be more oppertunities for people in GVs to use them. Hence the Pintle and hull guns will be more usefull.

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Next thing you know some 1337 sniper will be picking off pilots in their planes as they try to lift off.Or they will set up bazooka raids to vulch and pork.

 This already happens with people in tanks, and Im kinda thinking Tanks are a bit harder to kill than troops.

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Plus, how would you like to travel for an hour to get across 3/25ths of a sector?

 Like we said, C47s, Jeeps, M3s, and LVTs would be made to transport people playing as troops, so it wouldnt take any longer to get from point A to point B.
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Post by: bkbandit on June 13, 2006, 11:36:31 PM
vulchers and spawn campers is somethin that has to be delt with, either the game doesnt allow u to up for a field with x amount of nmes above it, or fix the scoreing system to reflect vulchs. It got to the point where kills mean nothin, a vulcher will rank higher then a real good pilot.
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Post by: GlacierGirl on June 14, 2006, 10:26:44 AM
It could be made that when somebody shoots down a plane while its wheels are touching the ground, it could automaticlly count for their attack score and not their fighter score, and have the Fighter ranks hold more weight in the over all rankings. This might be how its already done, Im not sure, just a sugestion.
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Post by: mussie on June 14, 2006, 10:53:05 AM
1- Only allow paying players (not the two weeks free users) to use the FPS part.
2- Perhaps have AI troops (attack dogs or Attack sheep) on the field that can track down campers and kill them
3- Realistic ammo loads for FPS
4- No land mines on runways
5- Sachel charges for dropping buildings and GV's perhaps.....
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Post by: GlacierGirl on June 14, 2006, 11:11:13 AM
Haha attack sheep, I like it.

Side Note: I noticed that the .45 that the chutes have holds 22 rounds. I have heard that in real life the pilots were given one pistol with 7 round mag and one extra round in the chamber and two spare 7 round mags. I wonder if it would be possible to have some kind of Cool Down time of 2 or 3 seconds to simulate the Pilot reloading.
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Post by: bkbandit on June 14, 2006, 11:44:54 AM
The scoreing system needs to be fixed but thats a different post.  BUt lets say for example, im flying air support and i drop a 1000 pound bomb and hit a m3 but there were also 5 soldiers in an around the m3, u would have to score this as a gv destroyed instead of a countin 5 kills for each of the troops.  Of course rockets and bombs that fall on troops will kill them, but to give me a score will just have everybody carpet bombin the area lookin to pad there scores which will be the new crazy for the hardcore vulchers. A b17 loaded with small b100s could prob wipe out 50 troops, we cant give him any points for that, in vietnam spookies killed alot of the vietcong but they got credit for defendin there base or destroyin trucks along the nva supply lines.

Keepin the fps away for the 2 week guys might hurt us. I wouldnt have become part of these game without getting hooked after the first 2 weeks. The worst that will happen is that he completeys 2 weeks and then hits the h2h for awhile until he gets bored of the 7 other guys and wants more competition(this is what i did). U just have to make sure that the FPS is done correctly. If the soldiers dont move right or dont look right, if the weapons aint right, then it will flop. There it nothin wrong with lookin at the other fps's on the market and baseing it after theres. If i tell a guy that "check this game out, its like ww2 halo" they will try it out. ONe of the things that has to change with a addition of a fps is they have to let u get in and out of gvs.  U just have to setup a system so it doesnt allow the ground to be littered with gvs, but im pretty sure alot of guys wont walk to walk back to base so they will take care of there gvs.
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Post by: GlacierGirl on June 14, 2006, 12:19:26 PM
Maybe for bombers that do kill troops, it can say on the radio bar "Troop killed" like it does with buildings and still give them perk points for it, but it wont give them kills that count for "XxXxX landed with 3 victories in a b17" those would all have to be either air to air or bombing GVs.

    I think being able to get out of your GVs would be a great idea. And you can have it so that if you wonder too far away from an empty GV it will just explode or something. Or it could work like the CVs do now, have a list of Transports like ten M3s or C47s or something that anybody can take control of, same as the CVs, and let people click which one they want to ride in or control and they end up inside it, then they can exit when ever the Transport Vehicle gets to where they want to go, Or it could only let them out in a certain designated place so Friendly and Enemy troops are close enough to each other that they wont have to walk to far to find action.
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Post by: GlacierGirl on June 15, 2006, 01:19:52 PM
Doesnt this make you wish we had more weapons for troops?
(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/970_1150391375_ahss19jpeg.jpg)
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Post by: benytree on June 15, 2006, 02:09:51 PM
yep lol
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Post by: Latrobe on August 16, 2006, 03:49:53 PM
this idea is great we need to be trps asap
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Post by: Iron_Cross on August 16, 2006, 05:11:32 PM
I like this idea.  We already have the code for Rockets so Bazookas wouldn't be that much trouble.  

The problem with transportation to and from could be solved by a simple attach code(Like Join command), and fill up a set number of slots on aircraft and vehicles.  Say: 10 for M-3's, LVT-2's, C-47's; 6 for large tanks Pzr IV, Tiger, T-34; 4 for the rest of the vehicles; and one for fighters.  That way you can get to where you want to go quickly.  If the vehicle gets killed so does anybody attached.  my .02$
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Post by: bkbandit on August 17, 2006, 02:20:06 AM
yea this would be great. U could ad alot to the game wit adding some hand to hand combat. There are some many weapons and vehicles that come to mind that could be added for the troops. Have a bucnh of troops hiding in the trees killin tanks wit bazookas or fightin there way to the map room and captureing it. A downed pilot now could be resuced instead of bailing, a c47 could pick u up in a open field or u jump into the back of the jeep and man the gun(of course guys makeing these rescuses need to pick up big chucks of perk points). But if a gv or c47 carryin multi troops are rescued pilots gets shot down everyone dies, but the guy makeing the kill only gets one kill to his credit. On cases where i drop a bomb on a area wit multi troops i dont get kills for them, it could just count as a buildin or object destroyed. instead of radar destroyed, it will say somethin like troop destroyed or killed.
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Post by: SAS_KID on August 17, 2006, 04:10:03 PM
GO PLAY WW2OL!!! THEY HAVE IT YOU WANT IT GO GET IT!
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Post by: AKWarp on August 19, 2006, 07:20:23 PM
Infantry, yeah, that would be fun indeed.  For those that don't want troops, no one says you gotta play a grunt when you play, just stay in your spit or lgay.

Add some field artillery too.  Setting up a 155 to shoot at a base would be fun from the top of a mountain or some such.

Grunts with anti-tank weapons would certainly add a new dimension to the gv battles for sure.

I'm all for it!



:aok
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Post by: bkbandit on August 19, 2006, 08:14:25 PM
this would complete the game nicely. IF this was a pure air combat game it would basicaly be a big 600 player duelin arena, no bomers just fighters.
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Post by: Meatwad on August 19, 2006, 08:30:29 PM
Whats with all the tards punting old topics lately?
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Post by: nirvana on August 20, 2006, 02:51:32 PM
Sitting on the runway, some infantry guy that you can barely see cause they're damn ants starts popping you with a machine gun or grenade.

I second Saskid's statement.
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Post by: Latrobe on August 20, 2006, 04:53:36 PM
being trps would be so fun to take bases too. instead of sending in trps that just run to the map room send in some player trps and have other enemy trps protect to twn. u could have LOADS of fun trying to fight ur way into the twn w/ planes over head, tanks closing in on u, and ppl shootin at u w/ mp40s and MG43s
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Post by: bagrat on August 20, 2006, 07:16:11 PM
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AH doesnt want 10 yr old kids with no credit card diluting the game community with leetspeak and inaudibly high voices on vox. seriously, if you like AH as it is now, adding FPS would totally ruin it.


we could avoid this by putting the same learning curve in infantry as all other aircraft an vehicles.

10 year olds wont like trying to understand why it is they put the crosshairs directly on a target an are still not hitting it.

or why they cant run full speed the entire time.

and the real kid killer "PATIENCE", having to walk for 15 or 20 mins to get somewhere.

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Just because "we saw the band first, and own the t-shirt" doesnt mean it is exclusive to us,


CAV i own the band
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Post by: bagrat on August 20, 2006, 07:25:39 PM
also yeah for those who would dislike having infantry just jump in ur airplane an get creative, jus think of all the ways you could kill infantry.

i personaly have somewhat mastered taxxing on all terrain an would love hunting down infantry to run em over.....:aok

just a thought
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Post by: bkbandit on August 20, 2006, 08:08:36 PM
we have young high pitched voices screaming already. some of them are just unbearable.

They would have to set it up so theres a ground radio and air radio, or only CO's can speak to the air, i would enjoy clearing the way for soldiers on the ground, i just dont want 50 voices screaming up at me "kill this panzer".  We have gv's already, its only a matter of time before we have fps. If u dont want to fight fps style no prob fly a fighter, u hate fighters jump into a bomber, u hate bombers, aim that turrent and blast somethin in ur gv of choice. Variety is the spice of life. I fly fighters all day, i wont fight fps style but ill get somethin more to do, strafeing and bombin troop bunkers, and provideing air support.

This is a old threrad but this idea is always floating around, why open a new one.