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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: ujustdied on June 11, 2006, 02:32:19 AM
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could u please do something about kill shooter, this is ridiculus. i mean i go to shoot a guy down. one of my ppl come across the screen 10 feet away and i get a killshooter and there goes my tail. i mean could u at least make it to where no damage is conflicted when i accedently hit some 1. im sick of my tail ripping off cause BOZO wants the kill too.
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Dont shoot greens, that easy.
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Yeah....you're SA needs improvement because you should be able to avoid shooting him. I think i've only accidently killshot myself 3 or 4 times in 3 years of playing, it's not hard to avoid.
P.S. If you are one of 10 people on a con, you seriously deserve to be killshot.
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Originally posted by ujustdied
could u please do something about kill shooter, this is ridiculus. i mean i go to shoot a guy down. one of my ppl come across the screen 10 feet away and i get a killshooter and there goes my tail. i mean could u at least make it to where no damage is conflicted when i accedently hit some 1. im sick of my tail ripping off cause BOZO wants the kill too.
Between collisions and killshooter ... If people would just do a search first, they would find enough material on said subjects that would fill the Library of Congress and spare the BBS another frivilous thread.
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I like flying close wing on a squaddie and then just as he shoots the badguy I jump in front of him and make him killshooter himself. Thats hilarious.
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:rofl The old BK mind trick eh grits, it's even better when you sneak under their nose and pull in front, then give a little "woooo woooooooo" to make sure they got your number.
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no but like the other day i was trying to shoot a guy and a friendly comes within 5 feet of me when he turns (kind of a split second thing) i hit him and there goes my tail. i just wish they would make it so no damage is conflicted it would me more fun.
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Ever played baseball, and there's a pop-up. You yell out, "I got it." So no one runs into you.
If your in a 1v1 fight, and you don't want any interference, or help, use vox.
But like mentioned above. If it's 1 con with you and 9 other friendlies chasing him, expect people to come in from all different angles, with you killshooting yourself as a possibilty.
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Originally posted by nirvana
Yeah....you're SA needs improvement because you should be able to avoid shooting him. I think i've only accidently killshot myself 3 or 4 times in 3 years of playing, it's not hard to avoid.
P.S. If you are one of 10 people on a con, you seriously deserve to be killshot.
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Aggreed. Killshooter is rediculously easy to avoid inthe majority of cases
Same here. And half the times I have suffered killshooter were my own fault.
Let go of the trigger once in a while
Fire in bursts
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Originally posted by ujustdied
no but like the other day i was in a horde ganging some con, and zomfgwft some noob who was already closer to teh bad guy woodn't get out of my way and i shotted him!!!11 zomg I mean you could at least make it so those of us who don't have any SA can SPRAY WILDLY AND MAKE EVERYONE CRASH OMFgQUAH FTW!11~`
Seriously, get some SA, and assume that the guy in front of you doesn't want to give you his kill, and will instead try for the kill himself, since he's in a better position anyway. He can't make you shoot him. The only way you get KS is by shooting friendlies. WTF, is it that hard to figure out that you're not supposed to do things like shoot friendlies? Why do you think it's setup this way in the first place?
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Originally posted by nirvana
:rofl The old BK mind trick eh grits, it's even better when you sneak under their nose and pull in front, then give a little "woooo woooooooo" to make sure they got your number.
The more I watch that film. the funnier it gets:lol
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Sometimes I wish KS were off. Nothing like fighting someone 1 on 1, taking off their tail and they slowly tumble to the ground... then some friendly idiot comes spraying and gets the kill for my work. When people do this I cant help but shoot a few rounds just over their canopy, if only I could shoot THEM on those frustrating days.
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i'm such a bad shot i can't hit red or green.
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Originally posted by ujustdied
could u please do something about kill shooter, this is ridiculus. i mean i go to shoot a guy down. one of my ppl come across the screen 10 feet away and i get a killshooter and there goes my tail. i mean could u at least make it to where no damage is conflicted when i accedently hit some 1. im sick of my tail ripping off cause BOZO wants the kill too.
It works just fine, quit crying
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no i have some of the best SA in the game. that doesnt do anything im just saying it would be more fun wothout my tail getting blown off when some guy cutts me off. i dont need SA when my own friendlys are there. im not going to look around making sure friendlys are in the way. all im saying is just make it so no damage is conflicted. it would be alot more fun.
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Sorry, but Hitech says you need to pay attention to where everyone else is, and also to stop shooting them. For having the best SA in the game, you who an obvious lack of it.
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the only thing i [SIZE=9]HATE[/SIZE] about kill shooter is when your trying to clear a frendly 6 who is d800 in front of you and you shoot at the bog who is d300 in front of you and you miss the bog point blank and hit the frendly at sniper range that drives me friggin crazy other wise its perfect
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Originally posted by ujustdied
could u please do something about kill shooter, this is ridiculus. i mean i go to shoot a guy down. one of my ppl come across the screen 10 feet away and i get a killshooter and there goes my tail. i mean could u at least make it to where no damage is conflicted when i accedently hit some 1. im sick of my tail ripping off cause BOZO wants the kill too.
hmmm in a way u do deserved to get killshot....
#1 is not that hard to avoid...
#2 Lmao thats what you get for ganging ONE con :lol :lol
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The OP's right. Don't know what the rest of ya'll are smoking, but I guess Killshooter adds oh-so-much to the realism of the game. :rolleyes:
Oh wait...
I've been on someone's six, d400 or less when ID-10-T comes smoking past me at Mach 4 with no chance of a shot. Ma duece hits him, I lose my tail. Also had rounds fly past a vulcher and hit someone who just spawned at the end of a runway. That was a fun time...
Cost me perkies or apply negs to my score for shooting a friendly. Ground me if it happens too often (old AW flashbacks), but I understand the frustration it causes. And sometimes there's no way to prevent it; if someone's stupid enough to fly infront of me while I'm putting lead into a target, they should pay the penalty, not me.
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If you kill youself its your fault. Always. The sooner you realize that, the better for you.
Killshooter will never change.
P.S. As far as i remember, i kill myself single time since 2001.
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Originally posted by Raptor01
Sometimes I wish KS were off. Nothing like fighting someone 1 on 1, taking off their tail and they slowly tumble to the ground... then some friendly idiot comes spraying and gets the kill for my work. When people do this I cant help but shoot a few rounds just over their canopy, if only I could shoot THEM on those frustrating days.
Raptor01 you are so right. It is getting to the point that if you don't totally destroy the enemy plane some friendly will come along an steal your kill. That is very frustrating if you have fought the guy for 5 minutes and then managed to get in position to take him out and a countryman then pings him as he is falling tailess or wingless and gets the kill.
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Originally posted by icemaw
the only thing i [SIZE=9]HATE[/SIZE] about kill shooter is when your trying to clear a frendly 6 who is d800 in front of you and you shoot at the bog who is d300 in front of you and you miss the bog point blank and hit the frendly at sniper range that drives me friggin crazy other wise its perfect
I usually have better luck if I aim at the guy I'm trying to clear, and let his attacker fly into the stream. Then again I'm one of those hit everything but what I'm aiming at guys.:D
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The only time I can think of that killshooter stinks is when a buff is attacked and a friendly tries to help by attacking the enemy just as he gets in gun range of the bomber. In that case the only guy safe to fire his guns is the one attacking the bomber.
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Originally posted by Warspawn
I guess Killshooter adds oh-so-much to the realism of the game. :rolleyes:
Originally posted by Warspawn
Cost me perkies or apply negs to my score for shooting a friendly. Ground me if it happens too often
So, since it's unrealistic, we should make it as unrealistic as possible, just so you guys can shoot through friendlies to get a kill?
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Originally posted by hubsonfire
So, since it's unrealistic, we should make it as unrealistic as possible, just so you guys can shoot through friendlies to get a kill?
"you guys" being those who get frustrated by tards flying through our bullet stream, or flying past a target who has 3 bombers pouring .50 cals into a him who kills off friendlies with his ineptness? I'm the guy who gets mad at the jeep parked infront of my Panzer main gun; the jeep that ends up killing me as he's 4-wheeling through my tank as I'm engaging enemy armor. So yeah, make it so 'us guys' can thin out the genetic pool a little bit and prevent these kinds of fools from ruining our day with the way they feel they should play the game.
200: OMFG, you killed me! I flew my jet through your plane to kill that guy you were fighting and your bullets shot a wing off! That's not how it is in WoW!!
Like I mentioned in the rest of my post Hubs, take away perks or, if I do hit a friendly have some blue text scroll accross my screen "warning from high command: You have hit a friendly target! Repeated incidents could ground you! " I definately should be careful with my line of fire, but others should respect that as well, and enter my bullets' path at their own peril, not mine .
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Originally posted by Warspawn
"you guys" being those who get frustrated by tards flying through our bullet stream, or flying past a target who has 3 bombers pouring .50 cals into a him who kills off friendlies with his ineptness? I'm the guy who gets mad at the jeep parked infront of my Panzer main gun; the jeep that ends up killing me as he's 4-wheeling through my tank as I'm engaging enemy armor. So yeah, make it so 'us guys' can thin out the genetic pool a little bit and prevent these kinds of fools from ruining our day with the way they feel they should play the game.
200: OMFG, you killed me! I flew my jet through your plane to kill that guy you were fighting and your bullets shot a wing off! That's not how it is in WoW!!
Like I mentioned in the rest of my post Hubs, take away perks or, if I do hit a friendly have some blue text scroll accross my screen "warning from high command: You have hit a friendly target! Repeated incidents could ground you! " I definately should be careful with my line of fire, but others should respect that as well, and enter my bullets' path at their own peril, not mine .
Ain't gonna happen ...
Turn killshooter off and the amount of whines and phone calls to HTC due to "fragging" would pale in comparison to the noise generated by those who die from shooting friendlies.
Change killshooter so that your bullets pass thru a friendly without doing damage ... the amount of whines and phone calls to HTC due to "kill stealing" would pale in comparison to the noise generated by those who die from shooting friendlies.
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Oh, I agree it'll never happen. Not enough cheese in the world for what that would bring.
Question though. Leaving HT out of it and the whine tsunami that would follow removing killshooter in its current state, which would you rather have?
Killshooter as it is?
"No effect" to bullets impacting friendlies, much like our collision model?
Punishment for repeated fragging of friendlies, with a more realistic "what yer bullets hit, gets damaged, friend or foe" model.
Not that it'll change anything; just interested in the different views of some peeps
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I've told some family and friends about how HT handles team killers.
Each and every one has stated to the effect of "I wish XXX did the same thing. It would put an end to griefers in xxx" xxx being game of choice.
It's a simple and effective way to make you think before pulling the trigger.
Bronk
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Originally posted by icemaw
the only thing i [SIZE=9]HATE[/SIZE] about kill shooter is when your trying to clear a frendly 6 who is d800 in front of you and you shoot at the bog who is d300 in front of you and you miss the bog point blank and hit the frendly at sniper range that drives me friggin crazy other wise its perfect
why wait til your 300 away? why not shoot when your 600 away and your buddy is a good 1.1 away?
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"No effect" to bullets impacting friendlies, much like our collision model?
Nope ... wouldn't like it. Just guess how many people would be lined up behind you shooting thru you to try and get the kill on the guy that you just fought to get low and slow.
Punishment for repeated fragging of friendlies, with a more realistic "what yer bullets hit, gets damaged, friend or foe" model.
Nope ... I don't want to pay the price for over-the-shoulder shooters ... I hate when that happens. If you are behind me and I see friendly fire coming from behind me ... I stop concentrating on the enemy and TRY to fly into the bullet streams behind me hoping that I cause killshooter.
The only just punishment for fragging friendlies is for you to take the damage that you would have inflicted. I don't want to give you repeated chances of being a jerk ... shoot me ... you die ... don't shoot me ... you live.
Killshooter was not designed for the occasional goofball that flys thru your bullet stream ... it was meant more for the over-the-shoulder shooters and discouraging that style of gameplay.
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i for one like to think there is consequences for pulling the trigger. if there were none, we could just spray without fear until our ammo ran out. also consider spraying, what if your in a 2 v 1, 3 v1, but the other guys don not have to worry about k/s.....i bet the spray would be a sight to see.
and lol icemaw, i hate that too:)
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Last time I was KS I came diving in on an enemy that a friendly was working. I just happened to throw a burst but it hit the firendly on accident. I KS myself. Its was my fault and im not upset.
Only people that dont like KS are kill stealers and spray and pray dweebs
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Perhaps it's just me, but the guys complaining about KS are guys i've never even heard of in game. Warspawn says he's from AW, so he must not be a n00b. I have seen ujustdied post quite a bit. That being said, you are both probably veterans and should know to take your time when shooting. If you are complaining about shooting over someones shoulder and getting killshot, because it was "your kill" well, you had it coming.
Simply put, don't gang bang, and you won't have to worry.
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yea, turn it on in the DA and turn in off in the MA, just too hear all the cry's, would prolly sound like a orphanage.
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i wouldnt say im a vet. but i am pretty good. im catfish6. still its just thoughs times. like imagin u have 6 kills hoping to get 1 more then u go to shoot a guy get the lead and some guy goes in your lead and u shoot him. then boom there goes your wing nothing u can do. all im saying is that the bullts do not hurt nor go through the friendly it would just be a waist of bullets.
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Originally posted by ujustdied
i wouldnt say im a vet. but i am pretty good. im catfish6. still its just thoughs times. like imagin u have 6 kills hoping to get 1 more then u go to shoot a guy get the lead and some guy goes in your lead and u shoot him. then boom there goes your wing nothing u can do. all im saying is that the bullts do not hurt nor go through the friendly it would just be a waist of bullets.
OK little twist on this. You are just about to bag your 7th. When all of a sudden the same tardling swoops in behind you fires through you and swipes your kill.
Lemme guess you wont be here on the bbs whining about that?
I'm betting you will be here just as fast if not faster.
Bronk