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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Igloo on October 25, 2000, 05:48:00 PM
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Who are you all voting for? Canadian Alliance here.
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Squadron Leader, Igloo.
C/O RCAF 411 Squadron - County of York (http://www.trueorigins.net/411rcaf)
"Problems cannot be solved with the same awareness that created them" - Albert Einstein[/i]
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First time I'll bother voting, since for the first time a candidate/party has promised to do something that directly affects me (i.e. strike down Alan Rock's gun c-68 gun law).
I'll be voting Alliance here as well. My mother is a bit of a bible banger, and this is the only thing about Day I dislike, but I'm sure his chief of staff is brow-beating him into not spouting off versus from the bible in every conversation (not that I mind, I just know that it will turn off a lot of the voters).
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Funny how we, US, doesn't seem to care who is elected in Canada as much as the Canadians are concerned who is elected in the US. Don't worry you can still come to Florida in the winter and drive 25 in 55 mph zone (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
Eagler
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Eagler: The only reason we pay attention to the U.S. elections is because we find most happenings in the U.S. amusing. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
It has become one big T.V. show.
Besides..ever wonder why a sample of Americans, in a poll, when asked where "Central America" was, answered; "The Midwest" ?
Lack of any interest in their own contry nevermind the rest of the world.
Drive 25 ? LOL we have never had the old "double nickle" on highways like you have had. When you guys wanna drive fast..come up here.
In July don't forget to bring your ski rack.
Igloo.. Not sure who to vote for.
-The Alliance reminds me of a bunch of bible thumping rednecks.
-The liberals...welll yuck..
(besides the Chretien talks out of the side of his mouth (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif) )
-The NDP... god help us.
-P.C. well they brought us mulroney and that should mean automatic disqualification (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
Mix the best NDP and liberals with the best/non-redneck Alliance members and I'd vote for THAT new party.
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Canadian Federal Election? Isn't that where you elect the next US Ambasador?
AKDejaVu
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I'm going Alliance as well, eventhough I don't believe they have enough experience deep in the ranks. I'm hoping for a minority Governement regardless of the winner.
As far as Alliance being "redneck", that's just media slant. Hell I've gone drinking with Premiers of certain Provinces, and I'll tell you what, they're all the same....just average guys. You have to look at the individual, not the party name. The thing about Stockwell Day, he calls it as he sees it. He's a straight shooter and a realist.
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[This message has been edited by Kats (edited 10-29-2000).]
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Ahaha, Snoopi, I saw that last summer.
It was mid June, and I was walking down King St. A car with ski racks and poles pulls up beside me and asked me where they could go skiing in Canada. I was like, "Umm, it's June, and it's +70 degrees out, you could probably do some skiiing in Alberta or B.C. up in the mountians."
"Oh really, how far is that?" (I'm on the Ontario, Quebec border!)
The only reason Canadians are interested in American politics, other than the reason pointed out by Snoopi, is that it is shoved down our thoat every time we turn the TV on.
The only thing I don't like about Alliance are the fundemental views they have regarding minorities in our society. They are less liberal towards gays and other lifestyles.
The Liberal party, on the other hand, well.. look at them. Chretien is embarassing. As long as Day keeps his personal beliefs to himself and does not express them as a view Canadians share, I would be happy to elect Day.
The NDP, how many seats do they hold? Like 2?
P.C. - They have nobody running worth considering.
Bloc Quebecois - Speaks for itself.
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Squadron Leader, Igloo.
C/O RCAF 411 Squadron - County of York (http://www.trueorigins.net/411rcaf)
"Problems cannot be solved with the same awareness that created them" - Albert Einstein[/i]
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Media Slant ?
The media can't put words into a leaders' mouth.
The Alliance is a bit too bible thumping/fundamentalist to me. I like them as a opposition party. I think that religion and politics should never be mixed. How does Stockwell Day feel about that ?
I also agree the Alliance lack overall experience.
Can't get enough votes to get anything passed ? Hence, nothing gets done at all.
I agree with ya Kats..Give me a minority government any day. It helps impart some "balance".
I lean towards the conservative side of things but the P.C. suck and the Alliance should clean out the "fundamentalists" in their ranks.
That said..I am thinking of voting Alliance because the "pot" needs some stirring up.
Hey.. maybe if the U.S. can have Jessie Ventura we can get Mad Dog Vachon ! (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
After all "Mad Dog" does have the one seemingly required Canadian politician "skill". He was a lawyer.
Hmm... is he alive anymore?
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We need Don Cherry for Prime Minister. That would get things in gear! (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
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Wont vote for any of those Crooks, Thieves, Liars and Politicians.....Oh sorry..there all the same thing.
Igloo..where are you located, Nepean here.
Ping the Anarchist
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Canada has elections and rednecks? Lord help us.
You guys ought to elect some irate Korean guy that only speaks Korean and French. That'd be a hoot.
Now play nice up there or we'll start exporting libertarians.
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The media can't put words into a leaders' mouth.
Indeed, but they can leave words out so that the intended point becomes twisted to seem like something else.
Here's an example.
I don't think homosexuals should have any rights that exceed those of any minority
Headline in the newspaper:
I don't think homosexuals should have any rights....
Pat Buchanon in the US got nailed to the cross with this type of media reporting. People still think he's KKK down there.
[This message has been edited by Kats (edited 10-30-2000).]
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Ping, I'm in Brockville, just east of Kingston.
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I dive on occasion in Brockville. We should get together some time and take pot-shots at the politicians (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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Originally posted by Kats:
Indeed, but they can leave words out so that the intended point becomes twisted to seem like something else.
Here's an example.
I don't think homosexuals should have any rights that exceed those of any minority
Headline in the newspaper:
I don't think homosexuals should have any rights....
Pat Buchanon in the US got nailed to the cross with this type of media reporting. People still think he's KKK down there.
[This message has been edited by Kats (edited 10-30-2000).]
What did the complete article say though ?
Just curious..it could be missing the whole story too.
Televsion News is the worst for that.
Try to tell a story in 3 min 2 secs that really tells the story.
The problem is the format. Not the intent.
In addition, many people don't wanna learn the whole story. THAT would take too much thinking and time. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/frown.gif)
I do agree to a point though.
15 Years working in television in different areas has turned me OFF T.V. in a BIG way.
"You can either watch TV or get off the couch and actually learn something" (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
[This message has been edited by Snoopi (edited 10-31-2000).]
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Well, I doubt it will be even a close election, not like the US which appears to be a 2 horse race. The whole reason to call it this early is because the Liberals are going to take it in a cakewalk and they know it. Canadian Alliance probably won't have a chance.
Short of a promise by one of the parties other than the liberals to repeal taxes forever, or something else utterly stupid, it's already over.
Sad but I fear true. Maybe whoever loses in the US wants to come up and run here (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif) Sorta like being the bridesmaid but never the bride..
ha ha ha
Soda
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I wouldn't mind voting Liberal so much if Chretien wasn't the leader of the party. He is embarassing.
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Snoopi, my eg was fictitious to make the point. I do agree with you that it is format not intent. Unfortunately it seems that the majority of people are only interested in the headline or sound bite. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/frown.gif)
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Originally posted by Kats:
Snoopi, my eg was fictitious to make the point. I do agree with you that it is format not intent. Unfortunately it seems that the majority of people are only interested in the headline or sound bite. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/frown.gif)
A good point it was too !
Part of broadcast is knowing that many people have short attention spans and love things that GRAB their attention.
That's why you hardly hear of "INTERFOR is logging beside Pacific Rim National Park and damaging salmon streams which is against the law." (A true headline)
It gets more viewers if you have; "This is our Channel 10 Exclusive footage of the carnage from the drive by shooting as it happened." (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/frown.gif)
Regards,
Snoopi
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Originally posted by Igloo:
I wouldn't mind voting Liberal so much if Chretien wasn't the leader of the party. He is embarassing.
Chretien was great when he shoved that guy a couple of years ago.
He's not too bad with a Inukshuk statue against intruders either ! (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
Otherwise.....
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Chretien is such a tough guy.... (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif) Nothing like shoving a protestor and then having the cops pull out the pepper spray.
Problem is all the other people running are total idiots... it's like a dog race to see who gets to the end first... backwards.
What we need is to have Mr T run against these goofs... "get outta my way, fool"..
Soda
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Originally posted by Igloo:
I wouldn't mind voting Liberal so much if Chretien wasn't the leader of the party. He is embarassing.
Someone once said about him that he's the only Canadian that speaks two second languages. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
I assure you, he sounds like a moron in French too. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
An interesting bit about BQ's Duceppe: 3 years ago during the previous elections he visited some factory (food? hitech stuff? can't remember) that required him to wear some kind of hair net (to avoid loosing hair). He's not through paying for that mistake yet. In newspaper political cartoons he's still portrayed with that hair net and a hilarious moronic look. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
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DrSoya
308 (Polish) Squadron "City of Cracow" RAF
Part of the Northolt Wing (http://www.raf303.org/northolt) (First Polish Fighter Wing)
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Soda:
Mr. T.... LOL ! I like it !
I'm still amazed at the controversy over that incident.
If that had been the U.S. President he would have been face down in handcuffs (or shot dead) WAY before he got that close to him.
Then that other idiot just wanders into their bedroom.
The RCMP team that were his bodyguards needed some training. (either that or they were PC party members) (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)