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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Ripsnort on June 12, 2006, 12:42:07 PM
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No helmet :rolleyes:
http://www.breitbart.com/news/2006/06/12/D8I6PUBG0.html
Steelers quarterback Ben Roethlisberger was injured in a motorcycle crash and taken to a hospital Monday morning, and a pool of blood was found at the accident site.
"He was alert and conscious," said Ernie Roman, shift commander for the Allegheny County emergency service.
Steelers Dave Lockett, outside Mercy Hospital, confirmed the accident but did not provide additional details. There was no word on Roethlisberger's condition.
The crash happened at an intersection at the edge of downtown.
A silver Chrysler New Yorker with damage to the front passenger fender was removed and Roethlisberger's bike was loaded onto a flatbed truck. Police were detouring traffic around the crash scene as onlookers and media gathered.
In only his second year in the NFL, Roethlisberger, helped by blind referees, helped guide the Steelers to the Super Bowl championship last season.
Calls to Roethlisberger's agent, Leigh Steinberg, were not immediately returned.
The 24-year-old Roethlisberger has said in the past that he prefers not to wear a helmet when riding his motorcycle. He has pointed out Pennsylvania's 35-year-old state law requiring helmets to be worn was amended to make helmets optional
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In May 2005, Steelers coach Bill Cowher lectured Roethlisberger on the dangers of riding without a helmet. "He talked about being a risk-taker and I'm not really a risk-taker. I'm pretty conservative and laid back, but the big thing is to just be careful," Roethlisberger said at the time. "I'll just continue to be careful. I told him we don't ever ride alone, we always ride in a group of people, and I think it makes it even more safe."
In May 2005, Cleveland Browns tight end Kellen Winslow Jr. tore knee ligaments in a motorcycle accident and was lost for the season.
Roethlisberger continued to ride after Winslow's accident and that angered Terry Bradshaw, who quarterbacked the Steelers to four Super Bowl victories during the 1970s. Visiting the Steelers' training camp last summer, Bradshaw remarked: "Ride it when you retire."
http://www.breitbart.com/news/2006/06/12/D8I6PUBG0.html
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Perhaps helmets should be optional for him in football as well. He certainly has nothing to lose by not using one.
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the "accident" was caused by a car making a left turn in front of him , not by lack of helmet. if he had full body armor he would still have been injured.
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Originally posted by Ripsnort
In only his second year in the NFL, Roethlisberger, helped by blind referees, helped guide the Steelers to the Super Bowl championship last season.
Yep, still whining. :p
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Originally posted by john9001
the "accident" was caused by a car making a left turn in front of him , not by lack of helmet. if he had full body armor he would still have been injured.
Please point out where I said the helmet or lack of one had any bearing on the cause of the accident. There was also no indication in the article that he had any head injury.
I was just pointing out the irony that he makes his living in a sport that requires the use of a helmet where there are far less impact forces than while driving a motorcycle in traffic. If he TRULY believed in "personal freedom" for his head he would play without a helmet too. Does that make it clear for you?? :rolleyes:
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Originally posted by Ripsnort
In only his second year in the NFL, Roethlisberger, helped by blind referees, helped guide the Steelers to the Super Bowl championship last season.
ROFL!!!!
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On a serious note did he have any head injuries? If he didn't hit his head, nor if he didn't get a head injury, a helmet doesn't matter in that case. In the example of Kellen Winslow's knee injury from a motorcycle accident, a helmet doesn't figure in either.
Keep in mind if I ever ride again, I'll always wear a helmet. My first day riding when I was 9 taught me that lesson.
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Originally posted by Maverick
Please point out where I said the helmet or lack of one had any bearing on the cause of the accident. There was also no indication in the article that he had any head injury.
I was just pointing out the irony that he makes his living in a sport that requires the use of a helmet where there are far less impact forces than while driving a motorcycle in traffic. If he TRULY believed in "personal freedom" for his head he would play without a helmet too. Does that make it clear for you?? :rolleyes:
the NFL requires players to wear helmets, pa law says helmets on bikes are optional.
his head hit the windshield of the car then hit the pavement.
the motorcycle was not equipped with air bags, seat belts or a roll bar. we need more laws, :rolleyes back:
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LOL Seagals still griping about getting pwn3d.
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Looks like he busted his head, big time. Broken Jaw, Cuts to his face and head, Missing teeth. He also banged his knees pretty bad.
Hope hes ok.
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I heard Carson Palmer was driving the car that hit him!!
j/k
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Lady with Maine plates... the Patriots are hiring hitmen (or in this case, hit ladies) to go after players now... i guess paying hitmen is cheaper than paying thier game winner kicker...
oh yea, i know the intersection where he got hit too... many accidents happen at the particular intersection.
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Originally posted by Ripsnort
In only his second year in the NFL, Roethlisberger, helped by blind referees, helped guide the Steelers to the Super Bowl championship last season.
Dude... let it go. :aok
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I think he missed a payment to the referees for SB40. They sent Grandma Guido out for a hit job.
:noid
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here you go.
While Winslow's contract forbade him from riding a motorcycle, Roethlisberger's contract does not prohibit him from riding motorcycles, even helmetless. The standard NFL contract prohibits risky behavior, but that is noat precisely defined. Pennsylvania repealed its mandatory helmet law in 2003.
http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/06163/697655-66.stm (http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/06163/697655-66.stm)
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Originally posted by Ripsnort
I think he missed a payment to the referees for SB40. They sent Grandma Guido out for a hit job.
:noid
Ladies and gentlemen, a typical Seattle football fan for your enjoyment.
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If you wait long enough those sour grapes may turn into wine. Then at least you'd be able to get drunk.....
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Originally posted by john9001
the motorcycle was not equipped with air bags, seat belts or a roll bar. we need more laws, :rolleyes back:
so what are you saying, we need roll bars on our bikes now? Hell if i'll wear a seat belt on a bike. I've been saved by simply rolling off a bike rather than go tumbling with it as it smashes into something else.
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I am willing to bet that the majority of accidents that involve motorcycles were caused by a car and not the fault of the bike rider. Even if it wasn't Big Ben's fault he was still a handsomehunk for not only taking a risk on a bike while under contract but to not wear a helmet while doing said risky activity. I'm not saying he had no right to do what he did he should have excercised a bit more responsibility in his decision making.
If someone's paying me millions of dollars I'm pretty much going to make sure that that person/company/whatever is going to get the most return on their investment.
He just rolled the dice and came up snake eyes. Now he's paying the price for that decision.
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Actually, the majority of motorcycle accidents are the result of mistakes made by short term riders. Not only people who have just recently begun to ride, but also those who have recently begun riding again.
As a rider myself, I'm both amazed and saddened by those who constantly state that it's always the fault of the driver of the car.
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Originally posted by john9001
the NFL requires players to wear helmets, pa law says helmets on bikes are optional.
the motorcycle was not equipped with air bags, seat belts or a roll bar. we need more laws,
What we need is more brains... Then people might predispositioned to protect their noodles...
Seriously, if anyone honestly thinks that not wearing a helmet is reasonable, then they've never seen a kid's brains scattered on a roadway.
It's their head... However, I'd find another way to express one's personal freedom or rebel against "the man" in a way that is less self-destructive.
My regards,
Widewing
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Originally posted by Cougar68
If you wait long enough those sour grapes may turn into wine. Then at least you'd be able to get drunk.....
NO... we have enough whine from the seattle fans.. they dont need anymore... ha ha ha
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Originally posted by Captain Virgil Hilts
Actually, the majority of motorcycle accidents are the result of mistakes made by short term riders. Not only people who have just recently begun to ride, but also those who have recently begun riding again.
As a rider myself, I'm both amazed and saddened by those who constantly state that it's always the fault of the driver of the car.
Well, I'm not a rider and will never profess to know that much about it other than I wouldn't be caught riding a bike without a helmet. But yeah, it seems every excuse I've heard regarding an accident invariably is directed to the driver of the car.
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By no means am I saying the drivers of the cars are not at fault, most are pretty much as culpable. I've seen drivers screw up pretty bad.
Remember that most accidents are the result of a series of events, seemingly somewhat unrelated, but if the series is interrupted, the resulting accident doesn't happen, or at least isn't nearly as catastrophic.
I'm not picking on you or calling you out. I am just saying if EVERYONE would admit to the truth, accidents would be far less likely to occur. My fellow motorcycle riders especially included.
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I used to be one of those riders that only wore a helmet when the weather was foul, carried it on the helmet hook beside the bike when fair weather was present.
One day, (1980) I left work at 3:30pm, it was 90 deg. outside. I was yakking with a co-worker out by the parking lot, and just put my helmet on along with my pig-skin gloves without realizing it. About halfway home, I thought "What the hell am I doing putting my helmet on in 90 deg. weather!". I almost pulled over to take it off. 15 minutes later I was involved in an accident which sheared 1/4" of of the helmet flat from road rash (that would have been my skull). I walked away unscathed except for some aches and pains. I've wore a helmet ever since. Someone or something was watching out for me that day.
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in this case the on-coming car made a left turn in front of him, the law says "when turning left, YIELD TO ON-COMING TRAFFIC", the cars driver is at fault but all people can talk about is the lack of a HELMET.
if he had been wearing a helmet he would have still ended up in the hospital.
i rode bikes for years and i can't remember all the times a car pulled out in front of me, made a left turn in front of me, changed lanes and pushed me off the road. that's the reason i don't ride anymore, i could not find a "up armored" bike.
it's a wonder i'm still alive.
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Rip,
I've worn a helmet everytime I ride and that included riding in 118 degree weather on city streets where the temp around my legs was over 140 degrees from pavement and cars nearby. My helmet now is a full face one with vents and I have an armored mesh jacket for warm weather. I've been trained far more than the average guy and I know, since it's happened more than once, that I can be taken down on the bike. It's called ATGATT or all the gear all the time. I don't have the armored mesh pants but won't ride without full length jeans a coat, gloves and the helmet. Road rash absolutely sux.
Traffic collisions for motorcycles are definately not just the fault of cars / trucks but also often the result of a motorcyclist getting their aligator arse over their tweety bird ability / skills.
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Well it's not like it's a REAL Seahawk fan doing the whining anyway :) :
And I quote:
Just because I live here doesn't mean I support the Hawks! You must have me confused with a native-Seattlite!
I've come full circle, I like watching all football games, and really do not route one team on or another, except when it comes to playoffs, then I want the best team to win
Unless it's a bandwagon jumper doing the whining:
But, did you wear a Buccs cap or shirt around for the years they sucked? No? Then you're a BAND_WAGON_JUMPER
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Originally posted by Captain Virgil Hilts
Actually, the majority of motorcycle accidents are the result of mistakes made by short term riders. Not only people who have just recently begun to ride, but also those who have recently begun riding again.
As a rider myself, I'm both amazed and saddened by those who constantly state that it's always the fault of the driver of the car.
A fact. 90% of bike fatalities are riders of less than 2 years experience (and typically 19-20 years old, who drive horribly ANYway:furious )
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See Rule #4 (do that again and you are gone)
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hoping he and his family the Peace to get through it
saw a dead guy in the middle of the road last weekend after a green jetta did the same thing in front of him..
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**Edit----not worth the bandwith.
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Originally posted by Ripsnort
I think he missed a payment to the referees for SB40. They sent Grandma Guido out for a hit job.
:noid
Grandma Guido? The Polish and former Eastern Blocs make up the bulk of the Pittsburgh Mob. You will see when all the SB41 Refs will be old women wearing Babushkas and the score will be 62-10 Steelers over the Redskins.
In fact every referee that has ever reffed a game has sworn thier loyalty to the Pittsburgh Steelers. At the start of the 1948 season, Referees began to toss thier Terrible Towels when a team committed a penalty on the field. The use of these Terrible Towels still continues today, More and More each season too! :noid
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Originally posted by Ripsnort
In only his second year in the NFL, Roethlisberger, helped by blind referees, helped guide the Steelers to the Super Bowl championship last season.
Hey Drippy, remember this quote?Originally boasted by Matt Hasselbeck
We want the ball and we're going to win!
:rofl :rofl :rofl
I hear since Seattle lost the 12th Man debacle to Texas A&M the new motto for Seattle fans is "We're #2, so we cry harder!"
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Originally posted by Ripsnort
See Rule #4 (do that again and you are gone)
Actually, no...I won't let it go. That would be letting you get away with slander.
I don't wonder, because you_are_wrong.
You're barking up the wrong tree Rip, and I can only marvel at how you don't get banned for your personal attacks.
I PM'd Skuzzy earlier tonight letting him know that while I've been a paying member since AH charged and with them since Beta in '99, and a CM, etc., that I was canceling my account effective tonight, and I did.
I thought the best course of action would be to ignore you and your childish slander, but that's exactly the wrong course of action.
People like you need to be shown for the liars you are. I don't know what you think you know, but you sure don't know who I am. But even that's not the point, the point is that your MO is to label and name call, that's all you have, period.