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Title: Lancaster + Tallboy
Post by: Neubob on June 14, 2006, 06:16:21 PM
Used to sink the Tirpitz. Could used to sink CVs and wipe out large sections of towns.

A catch could be that it would arm unless it fell for, say, 12-15k feet. As this weapon was designed to take advantage of its terminal velocity of 3600 fps, it had to be dropped from 20k or higher.

Not a horribly difficult request, I don't think.
Title: Lancaster + Tallboy
Post by: helldiver on June 14, 2006, 06:28:07 PM
good one
Title: Lancaster + Tallboy
Post by: bkbandit on June 14, 2006, 06:53:49 PM
That woud be cool, some kinda of perk cost for it though, like 2 points or somethin, im pretty sure if u hit a good target u will get it back.  Im pretty sure some one said this but.........wheres the grand slam. I figured all the british guys would be screamin for ah to put it in.
Title: Lancaster + Tallboy
Post by: VooWho on June 14, 2006, 07:11:56 PM
Yea the Tripitz had a great story during ww2. The british tried everthing from sinking with everything they had, ships, attacker planes, dive bombers, torpedo bombers, lvl bombers, SAS units, subs, and nothing would take it down until some guy made the Tallboy. I forget how many lancasters took part in the mission but each one had a tallboy, and the lancasters were flown the best night bomber group, who could get accurate hits on targets at night and day. I saw photage of the attack with the lancasters, and when those bombs fell there were splashes bigger than the ship seen from 20k and 1 or 2 tallboys hit the tripitz and just blew it up like it was just a toy. I think only 20 german sailors survived. I can't remember, but it is a great story on how the germans keep the Tripitz from being destroyed and the ways the british tried to destroy her.
Title: Lancaster + Tallboy
Post by: benytree on June 15, 2006, 02:07:49 PM
i beleive she was in port and when the lancs flew over they used this smokescreen. so they didnt drop but 1 lad go frustrated and dropped his bomb at random. it hit the Tirpitz.

so dumb hitler ordered here to go to a different port but while on her way, she was in range of british heavy bombers. so a lot of lancs came in and blew her to BITS.

I watch the military channel :P
Title: Lancaster + Tallboy
Post by: VooWho on June 15, 2006, 09:24:35 PM
Will I thought she was on her way to a new port, when the lancs droped the Tallboy, because the Tripitz only used the smoke screen when she was docked in the Forjs. I saw the video and like 2 tallboys landed right on top of her.
Title: Lancaster + Tallboy
Post by: Platano on June 15, 2006, 11:12:28 PM
Quote
Originally posted by hitech
Nope will not happen.


:rofl


there ya go... the boss has spoken
Title: Lancaster + Tallboy
Post by: Neubob on June 16, 2006, 09:01:14 AM
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Originally posted by Platano
:rofl


there ya go... the boss has spoken


Where'd that quote come from?
Title: Lancaster + Tallboy
Post by: Platano on June 16, 2006, 02:06:37 PM
just mesin with ya :aok
Title: Lancaster + Tallboy
Post by: Neubob on June 16, 2006, 02:41:50 PM
:cry
Title: Lancaster + Tallboy
Post by: Airscrew on June 16, 2006, 03:08:37 PM
I thought I sank the Tripitz in Medal of Honor :confused:
Title: Lancaster + Tallboy
Post by: Kev367th on June 18, 2006, 03:20:28 PM
Why stop at the Tallboy, Grandslam also.

(Left) Tallboy, (middle) bouncing bomb, (right) Grandslam

(http://www.moxing.net/UploadFiles/2004514442360.jpg)

Tallboy -
12,000lbs - 21ft long, 38inches diameter, optimum drop alt 18,000ft

Grandslam -
22,000lbs - 25.5ft long, 46inches diameter, optimum drop? was calculated that when dropped from 13000m (42000ft) it came close to the speed of sound.

Would suggest if introduced that minimum drop altitudes are set.
Title: Lancaster + Tallboy
Post by: Neubob on June 18, 2006, 05:13:40 PM
Speed of sound for the Grandslam??

Seems pretty paltry compared to this:

It was an extraordinary weapon, an apparent contradiction in terms, since it had at one and the same time the explosive force of a large high-capacity blast bomb and the penetrating power of an armour-piercing bomb. On the ground it was capable of displacing a million cubic feet (29,000 m³) of earth and made a crater which it would have taken 5,000 tons of earth to fill. It was ballistically perfect and in consequence had a very high terminal velocity, variously estimated at 3,600 and 3,700 feet per second (1,100 to 1,130 m/s or about 2,500 mph), which was, of course, a good deal faster than sound so that, as with the V-2 rocket, the noise of its fall would be heard after that of the explosion.

link (http://tallboybomb.quickseek.com/)

PS, what's the name of the balding, bulbous ordnance pictured standing between the tallboy and the bouncing bomb?
Title: Lancaster + Tallboy
Post by: Kev367th on June 19, 2006, 12:18:42 AM
Think the fat bulbous ordnance was the final development of the Grandslam, just the war ended before he could be dropped in anger ;) .
Title: Lancaster + Tallboy
Post by: Furball on June 19, 2006, 05:37:38 AM
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Originally posted by VooWho
and nothing would take it down until some guy made the Tallboy.


That was Barnes Wallis, the same guy who made the bouncing bomb for the dams raid (amongst other things).

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Originally posted by VooWho
I forget how many lancasters took part in the mission but each one had a tallboy, and the lancasters were flown the best night bomber group, who could get accurate hits on targets at night and day.


The raid was done by 617 'Dambusters' Squadron and 9 Squadron, they still argue over which of them actually sunk the ship ;)
Title: Lancaster + Tallboy
Post by: helldiver on June 19, 2006, 11:44:14 AM
the bouncing bomb would make a great cv destroyer!
Title: Lancaster + Tallboy
Post by: Kev367th on June 19, 2006, 02:33:22 PM
Bielefeld viaduct took over 3500 tons of bombs and still stood.
617 went in dropped a couple of Tallboys and one Grandslam - result

(http://www.bomberhistory.co.uk/Viaduct/Resources/Photo43_500.jpg)

All the mini craters around it are from the 3500 tons of bombs dropped previously.

Plus -
What happens when a Grandslam meets 23ft of reinforced concrete?

Answer

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/13/U-Boat_Pen_Grand_Slammed.jpg)


Helldiver - The anti-shipping version of the "Bouncing Bomb" was called a "High Ball", never got used operationally.
Designed to be carried in pairs (one behind the other) by Mosquitos.

Pic of a test drop-
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/c/cc/Mosquito_Dropping_Highball.jpg)
Title: Lancaster + Tallboy
Post by: bkbandit on June 19, 2006, 11:23:51 PM
htc should work on some weapon add ons, tall boy and grand slam sound great:aok . BUt didnt them have to take off guns or lighten the buddy some to take off with these BIG bombs. I wish we could have incedairy bombs, that would take out a town reall fast, it just sucks that it will kill the frame rate.

They also need to add incedairy and armor pierceing rounds to the 50 cal machine guns.

That pic looks insane, it looks like the moon. The only other pics i seen like that were pics of nam after the b52s hit
Title: Lancaster + Tallboy
Post by: JB35 on June 20, 2006, 02:05:35 AM
Tirpitz sinking  MPG Enjoy

http://www.archive.org/stream/1944-11-22_RAF_Sinks_Tirpitz/1944-11-22_RAF_Sinks_Tirpitz_256kb.mp4 (http://www.archive.org/stream/1944-11-22_RAF_Sinks_Tirpitz/1944-11-22_RAF_Sinks_Tirpitz_256kb.mp4):
Title: Lancaster + Tallboy
Post by: nirvana on June 20, 2006, 02:14:31 AM
50 calibre guns in game are a mix of AP and incendiary bkbandit...
Title: Lancaster + Tallboy
Post by: bkbandit on June 20, 2006, 02:27:13 AM
it cant be, i have seen this being requested for a while now. There regular slugs.

i hope htc considers addin tall boy and grand slam, the only problem i see there is all the manics askin for atomic bombs.