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Title: Nothing to see here, move along
Post by: TufNuts on June 15, 2006, 07:12:31 PM
See Rule #4
Title: Nothing to see here, move along
Post by: SuperDud on June 15, 2006, 07:16:40 PM
IN!

Nice avatard btw. JB28 has a slight edge though.
Title: Nothing to see here, move along
Post by: Bronk on June 15, 2006, 07:31:47 PM
[SIZE=8]IN[/SIZE]

And I already proclaimed JB28's avatard winna.


Bronk
Title: I agree
Post by: TufNuts on June 15, 2006, 07:35:39 PM
his puts mine to shame....
Title: Nothing to see here, move along
Post by: SuperDud on June 15, 2006, 07:40:24 PM
If we could get him and HONDO to post, we'd have the best thread eva!

I have a classy lady as my avatard, u guys just have the w****s!~
Title: Nothing to see here, move along
Post by: hubsonfire on June 15, 2006, 07:47:21 PM
I think HT's made himself clear on this. Just because you're a customer, doesn't mean you have some inalienable right to ***** in front of an audience.

I know when I have issues with a vendor, I don't call everyone I know so we can have a giant whine conference; I go directly to the source, and the only person who can resolve the issue.

Super, your "classy lady" is dressed like a w***e, and uses drugs. That's class alright, with a capital A.
Title: Nothing to see here, move along
Post by: SuperDud on June 15, 2006, 07:52:39 PM
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Originally posted by hubsonfire
Super, your "classy lady" is dressed like a w***e, and uses drugs. That's class alright, with a capital A.


:mad:

You sir have insulted my ladies honor. I demand satisfaction! A duel then?
Title: Nothing to see here, move along
Post by: Retired on June 15, 2006, 07:59:46 PM
companies don't provide BBS services because they like their 'whiner' customers.  they do it because if they didn't someone else would.  if someone else did then they would not have control over threads.  if they did not have control they would not be able to delete posts and lock threads.  so, only reason this bbs is provided is to lock threads and delete posts
get it?  :)

wow, posted this from a treo, hehe
Title: Nothing to see here, move along
Post by: hubsonfire on June 15, 2006, 08:00:07 PM
If it is a duel you want, then a duel you shall have.

Handbags at two paces, pwincess?
Title: Nothing to see here, move along
Post by: SuperDud on June 15, 2006, 08:02:58 PM
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Originally posted by hubsonfire
If it is a duel you want, then a duel you shall have.

Handbags at two paces, pwincess?


Agreed, but hair pulling is not allowed. My full set of hair could be damaged. I know your not to worried about that rat tail you call hair.
Title: Nothing to see here, move along
Post by: Roscoroo on June 15, 2006, 08:17:40 PM
what a bunch of whINners.

I take it schools out .
Title: Nothing to see here, move along
Post by: TufNuts on June 15, 2006, 08:20:36 PM
School's been out for a long time....


Where in the Pacific Northwest are you from Roscoroo?
Title: Nothing to see here, move along
Post by: Max on June 15, 2006, 09:11:08 PM
Sorry Tufnuts, I disagree with most of your original post.

HTC's customer service is excellent and has been acknowledged as such time and time again by others. Any game related issue (problem) I've not been able to work through on my own, has been addressed and 99% of the time, resolved by a call to HTC. Each and every time I call, I get through to a human being who provides me a knowledgable response.

As to your gripe about the HTC boards...there are posted parameters of what will and won't be tolerated. I've yet to see Hitech, Skuzzy or Pyro come down on someone unfairly, or close a thread that was in compliance with those parameters. While you seem to have appointed yourself judge & jury for what you deem to be inconsistancies insofar as those who slide vs those who get the "whup stick", consider the fact that HTC personnel can be counted on less than 10 fingers. Although Hitech weighs in from time to time, Skuzzy has the splendid job of monitoring this UBB, along with answering several hundred questions a day from folks who don't bother to read the Help files or Read Me's.

Frankly, I'm beginning to lose patience with the small minority of disgruntled AH players, who seem to think that every gripe they have also reflects the thousands of players who simply enjoy the game for what it is. If you choose to spend your money elsewhere, so be it. Life will go on without you and your complaints.

Enough said, /rant
Title: Nothing to see here, move along
Post by: SFCHONDO on June 15, 2006, 09:16:37 PM
OK SuperDud I am here, just need JB28 now  :p
Title: Nothing to see here, move along
Post by: MOSQ on June 15, 2006, 09:39:44 PM
Next will be Hondo, JB28, and TufNuts avatars banned!
Title: Nothing to see here, move along
Post by: E25280 on June 15, 2006, 09:43:13 PM
I'll second Max's sentiment, and add a rant of my own.

Although it may seem that some people "get away with stuff", I believe closer examination will reveal the differences between them and those that get smacked.  It is not just what the whines are about, but how they are expressed.  As long as the disagreements are respectful, there is no problem.  When you begin hurling personal assaults, question HTCs integrity, things of this nature, you get smacked quick.

IMHO, HTC has been more than tolerant with many on the boards.  If he seems strict now, it is only because he was lenient before.  Just because someone "got away with it" a year ago, doesn't make it right.  Etc. etc.  Bottom line, follow golden rule, and you will have no problems.
Title: Nothing to see here, move along
Post by: E25280 on June 15, 2006, 09:44:34 PM
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Originally posted by MOSQ
Next will be Hondo, JB28, and TufNuts avatars banned!
Quite possibly -- and then perhaps I could fly once in a while!

Can't . . . look . . . away . . . :O
Title: Nothing to see here, move along
Post by: Coronado on June 15, 2006, 10:01:31 PM
i believe what he may be getting at is...  one unnamed played gets roasted for vulchinging an account.. the next month a player basically gets a pat on the back because he "apologogizes" when he's scrutinized and the player that points out the "strange" curcumstances is chastized for bringing it up in the first place  *shrugs*
Title: Nothing to see here, move along
Post by: SFCHONDO on June 15, 2006, 10:09:31 PM
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Originally posted by MOSQ
Next will be Hondo, JB28, and TufNuts avatars banned!


They better not...LOL

If they did people would actually read what I post, and Skuzzy is smart enough to not let that happen.  :D
Title: Nothing to see here, move along
Post by: Bronk on June 15, 2006, 10:22:23 PM
^^^^

Hondo... did you say something?





Bronk
Title: Nothing to see here, move along
Post by: E25280 on June 15, 2006, 10:29:37 PM
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Originally posted by Coronado
i believe what he may be getting at is...  one unnamed played gets roasted for vulchinging an account.. the next month a player basically gets a pat on the back because he "apologogizes" when he's scrutinized and the player that points out the "strange" curcumstances is chastized for bringing it up in the first place  *shrugs*
Think the difference here is, one that got roasted admitted he did it for rank, in public, and was essentially trying to make AH and HTC look foolish in the process.  In the second case, there is at least a chance the person who apologized was used by someone else, who also shall remain unnamed.  If the person who apologized had instead said "yeah, what of it you tards!" he, too, would have been smacked as there would have been no doubt as to his intentions.

My take, anyway.
Title: Nothing to see here, move along
Post by: TufNuts on June 15, 2006, 10:30:00 PM
Max and Ltarget-

I think you both have made valid points. I was a little harsh in my attack against HTC customer service, considering the fact that I have never had to deal with them on the technical side of the game.  I should have been more clear as my rant should have been directed towards PR. I imagine that this game and community have grown faster than HTC probably expected it to. I'm sure that it is difficult to deal with everybodys pissing and moaning, but I still believe that some of the "veterans" are allowed more freedom than some of the lesser knowns. In the very recent past I feel like some very similar situations where handled completely differently.

Either way I still feel like people should be able to share there problems on the boards even if it has to do with HTC.  We are adults and should be able to tell the difference between a legit complaint and somebody who just wants to be an arse.
Title: Re: Bunch of Crap
Post by: Kurt on June 15, 2006, 11:08:46 PM
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Originally posted by TufNuts
I handle customer service and tech support for my company, we have our own message board and have to deal with several 3rd party boards that also cater to our industry.


Yeah, and lets note how you quietly conceal the name of that company..

You see, the argument is pointless because the big difference here is that we all know where HT works...  But you could work for Pauls Paperclips..  

Being a corporate call center 5hit eater is a little different from running a company.   HT runs a company... You (and I) are simply employed by companies.

I think HT is smart not to let his public board get cluttered up with the rantings of every whine-tard that comes down the pike... You see, its bad for business.  If you have a legitimate gripe pick up the phone and call.

I (and many others) have called HTC more than once, talked to Skuzzy on the phone and EVERY SINGLE TIME had some of the BEST customer service I've ever received from any company.

A public cry session is not the solution to anything.
Title: Nothing to see here, move along
Post by: Kev367th on June 15, 2006, 11:17:06 PM
The big thing is how you word your criticism.

Being courteous even if you are dissatised with something gets you a lot futher than "Bunch of crap", "POS" etc.

HTC customer service is great, I can't count the amount of times I've phoned them with a problem and got it sorted out there and then, or it has been fixed in the next patch.

And yes I have criticised some of the changes and patches that have occured recently.
Title: Nothing to see here, move along
Post by: hubsonfire on June 15, 2006, 11:19:08 PM
So, basically, you're mad that todd420 and joedog31 didn't get banned?

Well why the **** didn't you say so in the first place?
Title: Nothing to see here, move along
Post by: Nutzoid on June 15, 2006, 11:31:49 PM
Yup! But in a tactful kind of way.:D It doesn't do any good pizzin' folks off.
Title: Re: Bunch of Crap
Post by: ramzey on June 15, 2006, 11:48:03 PM
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Originally posted by TufNuts
See Rule #4


amazing how silly you are
and lucki im not moderating this board :cool:
Title: Nothing to see here, move along
Post by: Roscoroo on June 16, 2006, 12:14:15 AM
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Originally posted by TufNuts
School's been out for a long time....


Where in the Pacific Northwest are you from Roscoroo?



my Little Roo's last day is this monday .

I'm part of the Seattle/ PNW AH gang ... we meet up every now and then to have fun and see the sights . (your welcome to join in if you live in the area )

the Arlington Airshow's coming up later this summer (hint hint)
Title: Nothing to see here, move along
Post by: MOIL on June 16, 2006, 12:17:57 AM
AND.......................

The Gathering of Warbirds is this weekend at the Tumwater Airfield:aok

Thought you'd like to know:)

Title: Nothing to see here, move along
Post by: Coronado on June 16, 2006, 12:35:19 AM
*smiles* always Moil with the soft touch.
Title: Nothing to see here, move along
Post by: Howitzer on June 16, 2006, 12:37:11 AM
Aww what the heck, I have nothing to add, but I'm IN!  :)
Title: Nothing to see here, move along
Post by: Coronado on June 16, 2006, 12:39:24 AM
in retrospect, they're basically the same except the motives."i did it to prove a point"    " i did it for practice"*coughbull*****   but,  HT gavel has fallen, case closed.
Title: Nothing to see here, move along
Post by: TufNuts on June 16, 2006, 12:52:04 AM
I agree with all that said it is how you word it.  Hopefullly the tone of my second post was a little better.  My intial post got a little heated due to the fact that this started out as a reply to another thread, and by the time I was done writing it, that thread was locked.  So I started my own thread.

I stand by my opinion that there are a lot of hypocritical things that happen here, but I do understand that I could have presented my argument in a less aggressive manner.





Thanks for the invite Roscoroo.
Title: Nothing to see here, move along
Post by: MOIL on June 16, 2006, 12:58:10 AM
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Originally posted by Coronado
*smiles* always Moil with the soft touch.


I'm sensitive that way;)

Spread the luv

Title: Nothing to see here, move along
Post by: Slash27 on June 16, 2006, 03:40:18 AM
Tuff, posting here about it is pointless. I know that you are privy to information most here arent, but it doesnt matter. You wont be able to get your point across here.
Title: Nothing to see here, move along
Post by: cav58d on June 16, 2006, 05:00:00 AM
Listen...HTC puts up with a lot of crap...Most of it coming from me....Think about it....This message board is a representitive of this game...Many of our players spend a lot more time reading these boards during work, than time spent logged into an arena...Call it what you want, but what CEO would want open threads smearing his creation...I have learned through these message boards that HTC is in no way, shape or form a democrocy....(It is a facist dictatorship) jkjk......All in all I think they are doing a damn good job.......:aok

That said, it doesnt mean i'm not PO'd YOU (and you know who you are), wont ever reply to my postings about the A-20 being available without ords!!!!!!!!!!!!  I dont even know why I keep beating this to the ground, because im lucky if I even fly the A-20 once or twice a month, but its my personal rant and the quest will continue!

Viva la A-20 without ords!

Thnx for a great game HTC

:noid
Title: Re: Bunch of Crap
Post by: Masherbrum on June 16, 2006, 06:30:53 AM
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Originally posted by TufNuts
 < yawn >

Flame away....I'm sure its coming.  Although I might not be able to read it...


Why beat around the bush, instead of taking two posts to speak yer mind?
Title: Nothing to see here, move along
Post by: SuperDud on June 16, 2006, 07:02:19 AM


Still waiting for JB28!!
Title: Nothing to see here, move along
Post by: CHECKERS on June 16, 2006, 07:41:42 AM
I dissagree ..... HTC Crew's doors are always open, their phone is always answered, and emails sent to them are read &  answered.....


Bob/CHECKERS
Title: Nothing to see here, move along
Post by: Skuzzy on June 16, 2006, 09:58:23 AM
There is a right way and wrong way to address anyone in this community.  Here at HTC, we make every effort to be available to our customers.  You can call, you can email, you can even reach us in the game.

We have never hidden from a customer.  We do our best to address every customers concerns and questions.

It serves no purpose to be disrespectful to anyone on this board.  None.  There is no point to it, other than to attempt to anger others.  That is not acceptable and we are intolerant of it.

A conscious decision to violate the forum rules (posted at the top of every forum) is an afront to everyone who attends the boards.