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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Neubob on June 16, 2006, 11:27:33 PM
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The following is a partial list of deaths of persons connected to
and/or during President linton's tenure as Governor of Arkansas and as
President of the United States.
The list is long, and I did not compile it, so feel free to substantiate the information yourself (shouldn't be too hard).
JAMES MCDOUGAL - Clinton's convicted Whitewater partner died of an apparent heart attack, while in solitary confinement. McDougal was a key witness in Kenneth Starr's investigation.
MARY MAHONEY - A former White House intern was murdered July 6, 1997 at a Starbucks Coffee Shop in Georgetown. The murder happened during the pre-trial publicity surrounding the Paula Jones lawsuit days after
Newsweek's Mike Isakoff dropped hints that a former White House staffer was about to go public with her story of sexual harassment in the White House.
VINCENT FOSTER - Former White House counselor, and former colleague of
Hillary Clinton at Little Rock's Rose law firm. Foster was found dead July
20, 1993 of a gunshot to the head ruled a suicide.
RON BROWN - Secretary of Commerce and former DNC Chairman. Reported to have died by impact in a plane crash. A pathologist close to the investigation reported to the Bob Grant Radio Show a "hole" in top of Brown's skull resembling a gunshot wound. At the time of his death Brown was being investigated, and spoke publicly of his willingness to cut a deal with prosecutors.
C. VICTOR RAISER II - Former National finance Co-Chairman, Clinton for
President Campaign and son MONTGOMERY RAISER died in a private plane crashin Alaska, July30th, 1992. Raiser was described as a "major player" in the Clinton organization by DeeDee Meyers.
PAUL TULLEY - Democrat National Committee Political Director found dead in
a hotel room in Little Rock, Arkansas September 24, 1992. Described by
Clinton as a "Dear friend and trusted advisor".
ED WILLEY - Clinton fund raiser-found dead November 30, 1993 deep in the
woods in Virginia of a gunshot wound to the head. Ruled a suicide, Willey
died on the same day his wife Kathleen Willey claimed that Bill Clinton
groped her in the oval office in the White House. Ed Willey was involved in
several Clinton fund raising events.
JERRY PARKS - Head of Clinton's gubernatorial security team in Little Rock.
Gunned down in his car at a deserted intersection outside Little Rock.
Park's son said his father was building a dossier on Clinton. He allegedly
threatened to reveal this information. After he died the files were
mysteriously removed from his house
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JAMES BUNCH - Died from a gunshot suicide. Reported to have a "black
book"of people containing names of influential people who visited
prostitutes in Texas and Arkansas.
JAMES WILSON - Was found dead May 18, 1993 from an apparent hanging
suicide. Was reported to have ties to Whitewater.
KATHY FERGUSON - Ex-wife of Arkansas Trooper Danny Ferguson, died in
May,1994 was found dead in her living room with a gunshot wound to her head. It was ruled a suicide even though there were several packed suitcases,as if she was going somewhere. Danny Ferguson was a co-defendant along with Bill Clinton in the Paula Corbin Jones lawsuit. She was reported a possible oroberating witness for Paula Jones case.
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BILL SHELTON - Arkansas state Trooper and Fiancee of Kathy Ferguson.
Critical of the suicide rulling of his fiancee, he was found dead in June,
1994 of a gunshot wound also ruled a suicide at the gravesite of his
fiancee.
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GANDY BAUGH - Attorney for Clinton friend Dan Lassater died by jumping out a window of a tall building Januray , 1991. His client was a convicted drug distributor.
FLORENCE MARTIN - Accountant subcontractor for the CIA related to the Barry Seal Mena Airport drug smuggling case. Dead of three gunshot wounds.
SUZANNE COLEMAN - Reportedly had an affair with Clinton when he was
Arkansas Attorney General, died of a gunshot wound to hack of head, ruled a suicide, was pregnant at the time her death.
PAULA GROBER - Clinton's speech interpreter for the deaf from 1978 until
her death December 9, 1992. She died in a one car accident.
DANNY CASOLARO - Investigative reporter, was investigating Mena airport and Arkansas Development Finance Authority. He slit his wrists, apparent
suicide in the middle of his investigation.
PAUL WILCHER - Attorney investigating corruption at Mena Airport with
Casolaro and the 1980 "October Surprise," was found dead on a toilet June
22, 1993 in his Washington DC Apartment. Had delivered report to Janet Reno 3 weeks before his death.
JON PARNELL WALKER - Whitewater Investigator for Resolution Trust
Corporation. Jumped to his death from his Arlington, Virginia apartment
balcony August 15, 1993. Was investigating Morgan Guarantee scandal.
BARBARA WISE - Commerce Department Staffer-worked closely with Ron Brown and John Huang. Cause of death unknown. Died November 29, 1996. Her bruised nude body was found locked in her office at the Deparunent of Commerce.
CHARLES MEISSNER - Assistant Secretary of Commerce who gave John Huang special security clearance, died shorty thereafter in a small plane crash.
DR. STANLEY HEARD - Chair National Chiropractic Heath Care Advisory
committee died with his attorney.
STEVE DICKSON in a small plane crash. Heard, in addition to serving on
Clinton's advisory council personally treated Clinton's mother,stepfather
and brother.
BARRY SEAL - drug running pilot out of Mena, Arkansas. Death was no
accident.
JOHNNY LAWHON Jr. - Mechanic, found a check made out to Clinton in the
trunk of a car left in his repair shop. Died when his car hit a utility
pole.
STANLEY MUGGINS - Suicide. Investigated Madison Guarantee. His report was never released.
HERSHELL FRIDAY - Attorney & Clinton fund raiser died March 1, 1994 when
his plane exploded.
KEVIN IVES & DON HENRY - Known as "The boys on the track" case. Reports say the boys may have stumbled upon the Mena Arkansas Airport Drug operation. Controversial case where initial report of death was due to falling asleep on railroad track. Later reports claim the two had been
slain before being placed on the tracks. Many people linked to the case
died before their estimony could come before a Grand Jury.
THE FOLLOWING SIX PERSONS HAD INFORMATION ON THE IVES/HENRY CASE: KEITH CONEY - Died when his motorcycle slammed into the back of a truck in July, 1988.
KEITH McMASKLE - Died, stabbed 113 times, November 1988.
GREGORY COLLINS - Died from a gunshot wound, January 1989.
JEFF RHODES - He was shot, mutilated and found burned in a trash dump in
April 1989.
JAMES MILAN - Found decapitated. Coroner ruled death due to natural causes.
JORDAN KETTLESON - Was found shot to death in the front seat of his pickup truck in June 1990.
RICHARD WINTERS - Winters was a suspect in the Ives/Henry deaths. Was
killed in set-up robbery in July 1989.
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THE FOLLOWING FORMER CLINTON BODYGUARDS ARE DEAD:
AJOR WILLIAM S. BARKLEY JR.
CAPTAIN SCOTT J.REYNOLDS
SGT. BRIAN HANEY
SGT. TIM SABEL
MAJOR GENERAL WILLIAM ROBERTSON
COL. WILLIAM DENSBERGER
COL. ROBERT KELLY
SPEC. GARY RHODES
STEVE WILLIS
ROBERT WILLIAMS
CONWAY LeBLEU
TODD McKEEHAN
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Mmm... I suppose I could spend the few hours it'd take to copy/paste the answers to this nonsense.... or I could just point you here, (http://www.snopes.com/inboxer/outrage/clinton.htm) where it's already been done. Body by body, corpse by corpse.
What's going on tonight? Is it Conspiracy Friday, and nobody bothered to tell me?
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This should be entertaining .
Bronk
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Must be a full moon out tonight to bring the conspiracy fans out like this.
:noid :noid :noid
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Originally posted by Nash
What's going on tonight? Is it Conspiracy Friday, and nobody bothered to tell me?
My left ear's been itching, horribly, all day long. When I got the email containing this list, the itch finally went away, along with the whispering voice that, over the weeks, I've come to know as 'Clean Pete'.
Now everything makes perfect, perfect sense.
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Clinton is and always has been a lecherous, womanizing, sleaze-bag politician who only kept women in the upper echelons of his administration out of political expediency.
None of the rumors about this would have come as a surprise to any sentient Arkansan prior to the campaign of 1992.
Two things kept him from having a great administration: His f-e-c-kless attitude toward national security and the scandals which will always remain the hallmark of his presidency.
But a murderer? Unlikely. Of course, anything is possible I suppose...he'd sell his soul to the Devil to win an election.
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I dont think Billy has it in him to be a cold blooded murderer. Besides Vince Foster was HILLARY'S associate, compared to Billy a cold blooded Hillary is more plausable.:noid
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Billy is too bumbling to be a cold blooded killer, but I believe he married one. Makes me wonder why he's still alive though.
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(http://z.about.com/d/politicalhumor/1/0/-/6/clinton_portrait.jpg)
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maybe take a step into the 3rd millenium.:cool: :cool:
and your list is missing Seth Ward:noid :noid :noid :O :O
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Originally posted by Maverick
Makes me wonder why he's still alive though.
If I was married to Hillary, I would become President for the express purpose of protecting me from her.
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Ya want conspiracy? Google Prescott Bush + Germany.
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I just find it funny. Maybe it's all a flying coincidence. But the amount occurances of Suicides where they shot themselves in the back of the head and then managed to drag themselves out into fields is astounding.
But that's just me, I'm still dragging in the 20th century.
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vince foster was not shot in the back of the head.
he pulled the trigger with his right hand, but was a leftie
he was not dragged.
he was covered in carpet fibers, so obviouslty he was carried.
if you'd been reading Strategic Investments 10 years ago when the story was hot, you would know all this.
also you would be much much poorer, its an expensive newsletter filled with terrible investment advice
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lol there are some great threads here this AM, must be the flouride in the water.
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:lol
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Yep.. the list is pretty bogus but that does not mean that a whole bunch of people died in very convienient and nick of time manners around both klintons.
Did he and she do em all? Naaa... probly not.. nobody gets away with all of em.... did he/she ever have anyone killed.... probly... they are liberals... they love humanity but hate people and... the end justifies the means... nothing about those two basic klinton ethics that rules out murder. Never seen em do anything that would rule out them doing a murder.... well... not just any murder tho... only ones that they could get away with.
In any case... no rumor is too evil to spread about the klintons.
lazs
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Originally posted by Shuckins
Clinton is and always has been a lecherous, womanizing, sleaze-bag politician who only kept women in the upper echelons of his administration out of political expediency.
Yea, but you have to admit that he has some bad points also. :)
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I will say this.... the list of "murders" is no more slanted or false than any "fact" in a moore "documentary". He could make a movie on the murders and not get sued.
lazs
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As I posted in the 911 thread that seems to have gotten erased, when it comes to theories, it is very very difficult, often impossible, to ever conclusively disprove, beyond any doubt, that something happened.
Can you prove, with 100% certainty, that the KGB didn't kill Kennedy? Can you prove, with 100% certainty, that Castro didn't kill Kennedy? Can you, for that matter, prove that Kennedy wasn't shot by the ghost of Teddy Roosevelt? As absurd as any of those propositions are, you simply cannot prove any of this. You can, however, with just a few small pieces of conclusive evidence, prove that something did happen, therefore the burden of proof always lies with the prosecution, and not the other way around. The defense merely has to block or discredit the prosecution until the enough doubt is raised. Hence, the standards of proof, even in the biggest criminal cases, never go beyond 'a reasonable doubt', where the jury needs to be more or less 90-95% sure that something did happen as the prosecution said it did. Anything beyond is simply too much to ask.
This list is likely a load of crapola. However, there is not a single fact presented in that Snopes report that 'proves' that anything. Yes, it makes the conspiracy sound idiotic, which would be enough in court, but, for the conspiracy theorists (which I am usually not), it's enough if there's still a .0001% probability that it COULD have happened. Since there is always that .0001%, there will always be the :noid.
For the record, I'm not a big believer of this list. I'm not a Clinton fan, but, at the same time, not a big Clinton hater either. I thought the list would be fun. I'm not yet sure if it was.
Oy yeah, and here's another.... Prove that I am NOT Nash.
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Originally posted by Neubob
Oy yeah, and here's another.... Prove that I am NOT Nash.
Yea right! Like someone who owns a `70 Cuda would not have posted pics by now..
Joe Dominguez says he`s never heard of you.
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Originally posted by Jackal1
Yea right! Like someone who owns a `70 Cuda would not have posted pics by now..
Joe Dominguez says he`s never heard of you.
In the legal business, they refer to that as a 'Preponderance of evidence'...
Not enough for a murder conviction, but enough for a wrongful death civil trial--as in OJ Simpson.
I don't post pics of the Cuda because this alter ego is secretly Asian, and it just wouldn't come off right.
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I just find it funny. Maybe it's all a flying coincidence. But the amount occurances of Suicides where they shot themselves in the back of the head and then managed to drag themselves out into fields is astounding.
Just the sheer number of suicides on that list is amazing. Makes you wonder why so many people that worked for the Clintons felt the need to kill themselves.
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Originally posted by Pooh21
I dont think Billy has it in him to be a cold blooded murderer. Besides Vince Foster was HILLARY'S associate, compared to Billy a cold blooded Hillary is more plausable.:noid
IF...and thats a pretty big IF....the Clintons were involved in these peoples deaths, I find it highly unlikey that they did the deeds themselves. Most likely had someone do it for them.
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be interesting to count bodies if the wicked witch of westchester runs for the presidency.
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These silly conspiracy theories....like the one that claims that Ted Kennedy got hammered and drove his car off of a bridge leaving a young lady to die in the water while he took off and attempted to concoct a story that would save his sorry behind from justly being prosecuted for vehicular homocide.
Oh wait that was true....
That (and being named Kennedy will get you elected to the Senate in Mass.
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Originally posted by weaselsan
These silly conspiracy theories....like the one that claims that Ted Kennedy got hammered and drove his car off of a bridge leaving a young lady to die in the water while he took off and attempted to concoct a story that would save his sorry behind from justly being prosecuted for vehicular homocide.
Oh wait that was true....
That (and being named Kennedy will get you elected to the Senate in Mass.
Or get hopped up on drugs and crash your car .
All the kid needed was a pregnant intern in the car with him.
Ohhh and the name will get you in as a congressman for RI also.
Bronk
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Originally posted by Neubob
JAMES BUNCH - Died from a gunshot suicide. Reported to have a "black
book"of people containing names of influential people who visited
prostitutes in Texas and Arkansas.
I believe the Clintons capable of just about anything. This one however does not ring true. Clinton had no need to visit prostitutes. While governor of Arkansas he had his state troopers bring them to him. ;)
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Interesting reading: http://www.prorev.com/connex.htm
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He had a hit list alright, all women
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Originally posted by Elfie
IF...and thats a pretty big IF....the Clintons were involved in these peoples deaths, I find it highly unlikey that they did the deeds themselves. Most likely had someone do it for them.
I dont think they did it themselves. Hillary is the typical Stalinesque type. Have an underling do your dirty deeds.
Its the liberal/commie way
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NeuBob...Nice list.
But think 10 years from now...When someone pardons GWB.
Someone might bump this thread...:rofl
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Originally posted by SirLoin
NeuBob...Nice list.
But think 10 years from now...When someone pardons GWB.
Someone might bump this thread...:rofl
Here's a deal, if Michael Moore is on that list, I'll bump the thread and we'll all have a good laugh. If he's not on that list, you bump it and we'll still have a good laugh.
Note, if Michael Moore dies of any sort of Cardio-Vascular ailment, we'll agree that his death was not "under mysterious circumstances". Okay? Shake on it?
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Hmm, nobody wants to Google Prescott Bush + Germany.:D
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rpm,
Been there...done that.
How about Googling these:
Joe Kennedy and Sam Giancano
Joe Kennedy and Nazi Germany
Landslide Lyndon
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I always thought it was Tombstone Johnson.
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Not as far as I know (Which doesn't mean a thing. ;) )
Johnson had the appellation "Landslide Lyndon" bestowed upon him by his political enemies in Texas because of suspicions that Johnson had rigged the governor's election of 1948.
A friend of his later confessed that he had rigged the votes coming from the last small town to have its votes tabulated...Johnson got 202 of the possible 203 votes from that rural town.
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Read the debunk on snopes. The guy whose plane exploded was some 74 year old idiot who augured at the end of the runway, and NTSC interviewed the tower who saw the old fart lawndart it. Hardly much conspiracy, there. I may as well say the Republicans sabatoged JFK Junior's plane, but we all know he was in an IFR condition and was a VFR pilot; lost the horizon in the haze and put it in the drink with no help from anyone else.
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2X,
EVERYONE KNOWS it was Booosh that caused the clouds to envelope jfk jr's plane to induce vertigo. Come on really, EVERYONE knows that! See it WAS a conspiracy!!!
:noid :noid
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