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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: Billiken on June 17, 2006, 11:57:29 AM
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Hey there!
Did anyone play WWII Online? There are some eerie similarities in the ground game, in my opinon--anyone else notice that? (Not a complaint, btw... :) )
AH is all over it, though, otherwise.
I was Cors on WWII Online, what seems like a lifetime ago.
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I played it from release day for about 1 month... It was sooooo buggy in those days though..
The tank war was always good though. I wish we had the tank gunsights that they do in WWII online. I was very effective in a panzer and in the towed 88mm in that game.
That game depresses me... It was such a great concept it needed another year of development before it should have gone public. If they had done that it would have been the greatest war game ever... Instead they went live too soon and lost a HUGE number of players because the infrastructure couldn't handle the load.
They promised it would handle 100,000 players... They sold some 75000 boxes in the first three days. The servers died and so did the game...
Saddest chapter in the history of online war gaming.
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Yup I did the WWIIOL thing. Stayed with it from day 1.
And as far as the release..they were pressured to release it..they wanted to delay it a couple more months but were given the " it goes out NOW or not at all" speech from what I understand. But that could just be rumor to defend CRS. I dunno.
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I played and quit. That game suckes so bad it wasnt funny. Gave heavily favors axis
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I too jumped in as soon as it was released.
It ran fine (relatively) on my computer but I tried to help a friend affected by the imfamous "head shaking bug" and spent hour upon hour trying to resolve it for him.
It was eventually resolved when a patch was released.
Of course I spent a month arguing with their tech guys and various "fanbois" on their BBS who insisted that it was the user's computer that was the problem and not their code.
But, I did play the game for a while after that and did have some fun..in tanks and 88s ironically. I hated the infantry model and hated the flying aspect of the game even more.
I found AH soon afterwards and never went back to WW2 Online.
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Originally posted by Curval
I too jumped in as soon as it was released.
It ran fine (relatively) on my computer but I tried to help a friend affected by the imfamous "head shaking bug" and spent hour upon hour trying to resolve it for him.
It was eventually resolved when a patch was released.
Of course I spent a month arguing with their tech guys and various "fanbois" on their BBS who insisted that it was the user's computer that was the problem and not their code.
But, I did play the game for a while after that and did have some fun..in tanks and 88s ironically. I hated the infantry model and hated the flying aspect of the game even more.
I found AH soon afterwards and never went back to WW2 Online.
I got in just after the first big patch, so I was fortunate to miss out on most of the big bugs. I liked the concept, hated the implementation.
This feels much more solid, in my 5 days of experience, anyway. :)
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I played it for a year and enjoyed it. Dec 04 to Dec 05. Many of my squadies enjoyed it also. Two major problems for me was.
1 – Dial up. Needs a lot more band width than Aces High.
2- Was tired of getting killed and not knowing what got me or what I did wrong. Playing with squadies with vox is a must, but due to my limited band width I could not use vox with them.
Lots of improvements since I have played, but my number 1 above will always be the major factor. Ground war was excellent.
Zero/Zilch support. You have to depend on players to help you out. You can't even call and talk to anyone. Call HTC and someone picks up the phone. You can't beat that.
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Played it for a full month. I loved when there was actual heavy action going down. One of my fondest memories was sittin in a Puma laying down cover fire with a 20mm cannon and watching troops advance and trucks disembarck soldiers.
There were some parts that would kill it for me, mainly the lag, the dreariness of doing nothing when there was nothing to do and some very cheap kills. I think the final straw was that it was pitch black and I was a StugIII sitting in cover with a convoy of other tanks. Spitfire comes down and manages to disable my engine. Traveling for nearly 30mins as a group, taking cover in night and waiting patiently for a sunrise attack and then being disabled (I was the only one) made me curse and complain like none other.
Came back to AH2 as fast as I could. WWIIOL can't even hold a candle to it.
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use to play it as a german name beforgot it and i didnt like shooting at moveing black pixle it was lame.
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Oh, if we're gonna get into fondest moments...
I was cruising along in the 109 looking for a fight. And I look down and I see this deuce and half truck working along a road between towns.. I roll in to strafe him and smack his radiator... Troops are bailing out all over the place, it looked like gun camera footage.
I rolled in again and caught about 3 of them running into the trees. Made another pass and hit a couple more... Finally I can barely see this guy prone in the grass in the ditch next to the road (every road in WWIIO has a ditch along side it) and got him.
It wasn't the most exciting fight, me being pretty much safe from 8 or 10 troops... But it looked the most like discovery channel footage that I ever saw in that game.
My second favorite was the first day I was able to get in game stable.. Probably about 4 days after release. And I was on foot and got stranded a few miles from town in a tank battle, yes, huge.. In the first few days, there were a lot of people on that game.. Probably 40 tanks and just as many troops. (I had been riding on a tank and he got engaged, so I jumped off to get clear) I ran to a damaged building and hid inside as this large tank battle unfolded outside... Several troops were accompaning them and I was able to snipe a few... I was so freaking scared to stick my head out, I stayed in there all night (game night) until sunrise before I started trying to get home... awesome.
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I too bought into the WWII online pre release hype , and was very disappointed at the start . It left such a bad impression that even after i heard many of the bugs were resolved , i never gave it a second look .
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still subscribed, most of the bugs have been worked out but theres a 64 player limit meaning only 64 players are visable at a time. SO half the time you have no clue how u died or who shot you. Also the Lag is really bad, i can live with the 64 limit but lag that puts the last nail in the coffin and seals the fate of WWII online right now.
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I bought the CD as soon as it came out and installed it. From the get-go it was unplayable for me... more bugs than a malarial swamp. So I made friends with the neighbour's retriever by using the WWII Online CD as a frisbee. That dog was more fun than WWII Online could ever be anyway.
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I played for 3 yrs. I missed out on AW1 because of it. It was fun until they made the 109 so lousy. Patch 1.6 or 1.7 ish. I liked strafing the infantry alot too.
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FiLtH,
I liked your old sig much better. :D
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Well I started playing WW2OL soon after starting AH and the game has developed a lot since then. There are some issues which are still in the game but I guess the concept of that game is such that those are hard to improve.
I unsubbed for awhile but I'm playing it again now. Not sure for how long, though.
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PS. "Gave heavily favors axis" :rofl BS, messing with the equipment because of playbalance is killing the fun already...
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Honestly, I wasn't even sure if it was still around.
I just remember thinking (on more than one occasion), "I've never been in a tank, but I'd think it should be more difficult to spot infantry crawling on their bellies at 6k than this...."
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It's been 5 years since that launch, some folks need to forget about it ;)
I'll be trying AH2 tonight see what all the hype is ;)
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I'll tell you what you'll find Sres. I played AH from it's inception for 4 years. Went to WWIIO and have been there for 4 years (give or take). AH is the best WWII combat flightsim, bar none. WWIIO is the best WWII sim.
I've said it for a long time, if HiTech and Killer had come together versus splitting off, there would be one helluva war sim out there.
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I don't know much about AH tbh, I joined wwiiol back in '03 and have had great fun on and off since then. This was linked from the wwiiol site from someone who's had trouble with the game + I'm going through try other games for a while phase so we shall see how it goes.
fwiw wwiiol has a 14 day trial ;) it's a different beast from 5 years ago, some like, lots don't but that's the vision I guess.
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I found it after recommended by a player from another WWII game "Chain of Command" when they had to close their doors (anyone remember that one -- I was SgtSchultz:cool: ) My machine back then was POS (nothin a whole lot different today :confused: )
I remember the infantry aspect -- was about all my POS could handle. I was told about AHI on forum there and been stuck ever since. The greatest draw from me was the air combat aspect and their loving care of my POS (works great here :aok )
Workin my way up to my 50th BB post for my 50th Birthday a few days away:cry
How many more posts before I am a senior j/k
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Originally posted by Kurt
Oh, if we're gonna get into fondest moments...
I was cruising along in the 109 looking for a fight. And I look down and I see this deuce and half truck working along a road between towns.. I roll in to strafe him and smack his radiator... Troops are bailing out all over the place, it looked like gun camera footage.
I rolled in again and caught about 3 of them running into the trees. Made another pass and hit a couple more... Finally I can barely see this guy prone in the grass in the ditch next to the road (every road in WWIIO has a ditch along side it) and got him... awesome.
Same here. I used to love to fly close airsupport in a Ju-87.
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I enjoy WWIIOL, but I play Aces High about 100 times more often. Aces High is much better for air-to-air combat.
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And WW2OL requires a lot from hardware to run decently, although they try to make the code better optimized all the time. But the game is constantly mocked because of crude graphics and they have to try to stay in competition by introducing more detailed textures and terrain to satisfy the player base (and to get decent evaluations from reviewers), and at the same time making the people with older machines to update their hardware. If your machine runs WW2OL well it sure can run any game well... ;)
I have to concur with what Apache said.
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wwiiol does require hardware that is up there in the Gods and the graphics are frankly last decade no argument there. However you have to agree that it has come a long way visually since it's inception.
(http://www.mindlessgames.com/interviews/images/ww2online/8.png)
(http://www.iamnotfredrich.com/wwiiol_screenshot.jpg)
(http://www.iamnotfredrich.com/wwiiol_screenshot7.jpg)
Anyway, took AH2 for a spin last night on the offline training, pretty good, planes stress out which was a cool bit, got to fly the mosquito which I love, rocketed the tiger (crap shot).
I love the fact that TrackIR hooked up instantly, damn that's the best £122 I've ever spent, just wish wwiiol took into account TrackIR4 stuff.
Might see if I can find an 8 player game tonight after the football of course ;)
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Originally posted by Sres
Might see if I can find an 8 player game tonight after the football of course ;)
You are aware that you have a 2 week trial period for online play - free?
Oh, and welcome to your new addiction ;).
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No I didn't realise that, I really should pay attention when signing my life away to things :O
I'll take a look tonight then, I could have sworn it was 8-player games only :)
Thanks for the heads up.
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"I love the fact that TrackIR hooked up instantly, damn that's the best £122 I've ever spent"
I works great here doesn't it.
I once recommended on WW2OL boards for people to try AH just to see how well the TrackIR works if its supported to the full and Doc chimed in to say that in time WW2OL will support the more dynamic views, too. It remains to be seen if they are ever introduced in WW2OL. :D
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Originally posted by Sres
...signing my life away to things
Good description :).
In the long run only H2H is free, but as i said, you get two weeks free to check out online play.
Use them to take a look at all the different arenas.
Main for the big brawl, Axis vs Allied and Special Events for historical matchups and terrains, Training to get some hint , tips and practice.
http://www.netaces.org is a good place to look for answers if you got a question. Or come back here and ask away :).
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I remeber the day that game went live. What a hassle. My buddy and I were so excited and pumped up by the prerealse hype. What a let down. I do remeber when seeing my 1st enemy tank column roll by and thinking "this game could be so great". Here we are years later saying the samething.
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First off, the apauling launch of WWIIonline 5 years ago is compleatly irelavent. Its nothing like the game it was back then and its just pointless going on about it.
The developers know it was a disaster launch, everyone that played knows is was a disaster launch. nuff said.
I played Aces High for 3 years and to try and compair the 2 games is pointless as well. they are totally diffrent except for the fact that they both are circa WWII and have aircraft in them.
Aces High is a WWII online flight sim that is all about the air combat and not about being historical. Spits against Spits, 109 against 110's (bar the special maps)
WWIIonline is a combined arms WWII sim and is all about the historical. which is why some say "Axis is biase" No its not its just most folk are used to perfectly balanced equipment like in AH where you can go 190 against 190. WWII was not about balance and in the early years the Axis DID have an advantage, but the guys at WWIIonline did a good job trying to get the early yeasr as balanced as possible. Your supposed to use your equipments strenghts.
WWIIonline has come along is huge leaps and bounds, there are no longer ditches along every road, FPS is far better (i get 50 on avarage over a large town in a large battle) Graphic wise, just like AH they have limits due to the large viewing areas, but again has come on in leap and bounds.
WWIIonline is a VERY good MMOWWIIsim, even the reviewers on many sites and magazines are giving WWIIonline 8 out of ten, which when you realise it is a very niech market is a real good score.
Aces high is prob the best WWII air combat sim there is.
WWIIonline is the best combined arms WWII sim there is.
Is AH fligh model better than WWIIOnline? depends who you talk to. For me you never seem to be flying at any speed in AH, in WWIIonine you really zoom along the contryside.
As for the track IR thing, WWIIonline has had track IR support for ages
If you want to whack WWIIonline, fine, but at least have a more up to date opinion that 3 yeasr ago.
I poped back in here to see how AH 2 is looking, nice to see the same miss-informed opinions are still rife on the boards. :)
You can donwload the whole game and practise offline for nothing, at least do that before you rubbish there efforts.
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Originally posted by Kurt
I played it from release day for about 1 month... It was sooooo buggy in those days though..
That game depresses me...
So you played it for one month, five years ago?
If you intend to give it bad rep, why don't you go and see what the game is TODAY like, and not whine about things FIVE YEARS ago.
AH was pretty much crap in the beginning, too.
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LOL I find it funny every now and again you get WWIIOnline guys in here defending it. I wonder if the WWII online guys ever have anyone from AH on their boards defending AH. LOLH
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Originally posted by Meatwad
I played and quit. That game suckes so bad it wasnt funny. Gave heavily favors axis
Especiallly today, when everything from equipment costs to the modeling is heavily biased towards the Allies. Axis equipment never had any significant advantages, which was easy to see if you played both sides at any quantity. These days the biasing has gone so far that Axis players are dropping out and thinning, so we'll see how long the game will be out there, with players for one side only.
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Originally posted by Obear1971
As for the track IR thing, WWIIonline has had track IR support for ages
Frankly the TrackIR support was a gesture in wwiiol, it's pretty lame, they've had the guys from TrackIR trying to get them to incorporate it fully (if you read the TrackIR forums) to no avail.
Originally posted by mars01
LOL I find it funny every now and again you get WWIIOnline guys in here defending it. I wonder if the WWII online guys ever have anyone from AH on their boards defending AH. LOLH
Nope, AH is rarely mentioned, maybe in the Hanger forums (though I don't go there for fear of being BnZ'd :aok . I only picked up on this thread because someone else posted about it in the Barracks and I thought I'd check it out.
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Originally posted by Grendel
Especiallly today, when everything from equipment costs to the modeling is heavily biased towards the Allies. Axis equipment never had any significant advantages, which was easy to see if you played both sides at any quantity. These days the biasing has gone so far that Axis players are dropping out and thinning, so we'll see how long the game will be out there, with players for one side only.
Is there really need to bring WWiiOL politics to AH forums?
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Originally posted by mars01
LOL I find it funny every now and again you get WWIIOnline guys in here defending it. I wonder if the WWII online guys ever have anyone from AH on their boards defending AH. LOLH
When I was there earlier, yes, there were constantly discussions about flight sims in the Hangar section of the forums. What's so surprising in that? People are always interested about and talking about various sims. What LOL is in that?
Besides, what makes you think that these are "WWIIONline guys in here defending"? Has it ever occurred to you that some people fly several flight simulators or are interested in aviation generally, and haven't married to any single flight sim? Hint: many people read several different boards, games or aviation, and also like several different simulators.
Basides, it would be more worrysome if misconceptions wouldn't been corrected or information wouldn't be shared, mmm?
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Originally posted by Sres
Is there really need to bring WWiiOL politics to AH forums?
Well, he said something that was effectively incorrect, so that needed correction. And the player base has been on steady decrease, with fewer and fewer people bothering to play, with the very biased gameplay and extremerely low development speed. Can't help it.
WW2O has its good sides, which is in theory very good ground war and ground war simulator, but I won't be touching its airplanes anymore.
Before the launch they said WW2OL will be a full blown, topnotch realistic flight sim.
These days it got P-38s that can land VTOL style - vertically. :(
I'd take its gunnery and ballistics modeling any day to AH2, though.
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Originally posted by mars01
LOL I find it funny every now and again you get WWIIOnline guys in here defending it. I wonder if the WWII online guys ever have anyone from AH on their boards defending AH. LOLH
Why is it funny? Its not a question of DEFENDING WWIIonline, if you really want to think WWIIOnline sucks hard, fine, im not botherd i dont need to to like it or play it.
Im just pointing out that the comments made are mostly fiction or grossly outdated and that other may want to check it out knowing its not like this.
As for AH on WWIIonline forums, yes it gets mentioned now and gain. but no one has to defend it. Last post was what good parts of AH would be nice in WWIIonline. I posted that i would like to see the AH voice comms in WWIIonline.
Your the one that seems to have a "them/Us" attitude.
Plus i am a old Aces High player. Im not a WWIIonline guy, im a games player.
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When I was there earlier, yes, there were constantly discussions about flight sims in the Hangar section of the forums. What's so surprising in that? People are always interested about and talking about various sims. What LOL is in that?
I guess you and Sres need to get on the same page. He says rarely if any and you say all the time LOLH.
Besides, what makes you think that these are "WWIIONline guys in here defending"? Has it ever occurred to you that some people fly several flight simulators or are interested in aviation generally, and haven't married to any single flight sim? Hint: many people read several different boards, games or aviation, and also like several different simulators.
Dont get your blood pressure up too high now. So you are saying you don't play and havn't played WWIIOnline? I think not. I do think it is F2343ing hysterical that you are in here defending WWII Online. That is most definitely the LOL.
Do you really think you are going to get people to switch from here? You yourself said WWII Online is not a flight sim
WW2O has its good sides, which is in theory very good ground war and ground war simulator, but I won't be touching its airplanes anymore.
so the following doesn't even apply..."Has it ever occurred to you that some people fly several flight simulators or are interested in aviation generally, and haven't married to any single flight sim?"
Basides, it would be more worrysome if misconceptions wouldn't been corrected or information wouldn't be shared, mmm?
Worrysome for who? We all know WWIIOnline blows as a flight sim. Maybe if this was a Medal Of Honor BB you would have something to defend, but it's not.
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Why is it funny? Its not a question of DEFENDING WWIIonline, if you really want to think WWIIOnline sucks hard, fine, im not botherd i dont need to to like it or play it.
It is funny, I really don't see guys from AH giving a crap to go to WWIIO boards, but every now and again WWIIO show up here. To me that is funny. It's obviouse they are missing something.
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My comments are not outdated.
The same bugs that made me leave when I 1st tried the game where there 3 months ago.
Mainly the...
32 viewed player issue. Randomly appearing enemies constantly. The plane engines cutting in and out as they randomly appear is utter annoyance.
Solider clipping through any object.
Typical fanboi defense. Then you attack AH with your assumptions, saying its not historical ect. There is more than just the Main Arena to this game and whats coming.
I like both games and I really wanted WW2OL to work. The concept is amazing and one day hopefully it will. I will always try the next trial.
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ya..having 200 players fighting in an area where you can only see some of them really irked me. Thats why I mainly stuck to the air. But then there, the 109s were always used up and I did more flying to a fight than fighting. Just alot of hassle to go and shoot someone down.
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I think the graphics look quite good in WWIIOL. I like it as an all-around WWII sim, and I don't seem to see any any of the bugs others are talking about. Also, the flight dynamics seem good.
What I don't like is the view system for aircraft in WWIIOL (total lack of ability to see behind you and the annoying way icons work in the air).
As another poster stated, they are very different sims. Aces High is where I spend by far more of my time (about 100 times more), but I enjoy them both for different aspects of play (and I enjoy Battlefield 1942 for yet different game play).
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"Typical fanboi defense"
Thats right Sunking. Goes both ways.
The engines don't cun out randomly. Actually the engine behaviour is in some cases better modelled in WW2OL (neg G cutout, overheating, engine damage).
The enemies are not appearing randomly, but in the air the player limit does tricks occacionally as the faster planes are harder to track for the servers.
Soldiers do not clip through objects.
I agree with Obear that the flying feels more like flying in WW2OL, although the modelling leaves a lot to be desired, but as it is more a combined arms game the plane set is made to be more balanced than accurate in performance.
As was already said AH is better aircombat simulator, but sometimes it is nice to grab a rifle and go hunting some enemy infantry. :)
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Originally posted by mars01
I guess you and Sres need to get on the same page. He says rarely if any and you say all the time LOLH.
I don't go in the hanger, so I don't know whether it gets talked about, I'm mainly infantry so I guess obear has a differing opinion to the amount of time it gets discussed through viewing of different forum.
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I didn't really intend for this to become a slam on either game. I was just curious if there'd been any bleedover from that one.
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Thats all right Billiken, this happens every time when somebody mention the other game the thread suddenly swarms with people crying for either one to be much better than the other and people who accuse others for recruiting. Usually the same happens in WW2OL boards, too. I'd understand that between, say, WB and AH, but not between AH and WW2OL because their focus is so different.
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PS. Oh, and my WW2OL handle was/is Chrg. :)
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Originally posted by mars01
It is funny, I really don't see guys from AH giving a crap to go to WWIIO boards, but every now and again WWIIO show up here. To me that is funny. It's obviouse they are missing something.
yes they do, becasue like AH players are also WWIIonline players. WWII players are also AH players.
Look at my account activation date, i have been a longer AH member than you.
Yes there has been posts about AH when people try it and dont get on with it ans then people who have played or do play AH defend it on the WWIIonline forums.
I come to the AH forums becasue i love the game and keep an eye on it to see how things are going. When i can afford to pay for 2 MMORPG a month ill re-sub AH. not becasue im missing somthing in WWIIonline, cos if that was the fact i would unsub from WWIIonline and re-sub Aces high wouldnt I? In fact i had both going at the same time for a while but it was a bit expencive and i was playing AH less becasue of the damn Pizza map at the time.
The fact im playing WWIIonline over AH points to the fact im gettign more out of WWII online than i was with AH.
talk about WWIIonline fanboys, you really need to take of your AH fanboy blinkers and realise its not "Them and Us" because most AH or WWIIonline players play or have played both. thast why you get WWIIonline player sin here, its becasue we have been in here for years, we have accounts here.
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WWIIOL provided for me, a heart-pounding experience about every other time I spawned. The same kind of feeling I used to get when I was rolling down the runway in AH, years ago. Years ago, when AH was a on-line flight community, and not a profit-strapped business.
I played WWIIOL a few months ago, it was fun, but it needs to be experienced in a dedicated squad to bring out the best of that virtual world.
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I just recieved a new welcome back soilder email. Wish me luck, time to see whats new.
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I played ww11ol from day one until @ 4 months ago.
The 64 limit was bad enough, but when they changed the interface, and added limited supplies, and gave a limited number of players the ability to influence the RPS cycles and research to the game, well that lost it for me.
It took away the ability for me to do what I wanted.
It's a shame, 'cause I had a lot of fun.
Playin a space game now :eek:
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Originally posted by Charge
The engines don't cun out randomly. Actually the engine behaviour is in some cases better modelled in WW2OL (neg G cutout, overheating, engine damage).
The enemies are not appearing randomly, but in the air the player limit does tricks occacionally as the faster planes are harder to track for the servers.
Soldiers do not clip through objects.
ermmm have you actually played the game? ever?
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Originally posted by mars01
It is funny, I really don't see guys from AH giving a crap to go to WWIIO boards, but every now and again WWIIO show up here. To me that is funny. It's obviouse they are missing something.
You're missing something. A lot of people play both games. They both cover WW2 from different perspectives, with MMO capability. Both have good sides and bad sides. There's regular discussion about other sims in WW2OL boards, with AH2 covered as well. Have you ever played WW2OL or been in their boards, or are you just speaking from one tiny corner without really knowing what the other corners of the room are like?
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LOL OMG are you guys still going on with this thread.
I don't care about WWIIO, sorry if I offended any of it's fan boys. If I was a WWIIO person and AH people were coming into the boards posting about AH I would also think it was teh funnay.
carry on LOL.
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We should set up a duel similiar to what was done with the WB players. Have a group of AH and WW20L pile-its and GV'ers duel each other.
Would be interesting to see how some squadrons like the LTARs would fair against the other ground fairies..err I mean GVers of WW20L. Honestly though, the WW2OL pile-its wouldn't stand a chance against the AH pile-its but the ground duel would be interesting.
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I too played WWIIOL at launch. I think I stuck with it for 2 months. Crawling around as infantry at night (when it was really pitch black), was a real blast. I remember finding myself in a slight depression and just watching the horizon for silhouettes. Then I'd shoot them. It was fun. Too damn buggy though.
I started playing it again about a year ago. It's is WAY better than it was then. You CAN fly and fight, which you couldn't do at release. It's a hell of a lot of fun. It's got some minor problems, but then again, so does every game out there.
I recommend that you try the free trial and get into some squad.
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I've been trying the welcome back soldier trial, the reasons why i left haven't be en fixed. The biasing is still junk, just had a fight against a 109 that kept blinking in and out. How am i supposed to fight something if i can't see it. I had suspicions this was happening but just put it off to my rusty SA during dogfights.l I should have trusted my gut feeling.:( I had a 109 blinking in and out while i had a guns solutions, he was dissapearing for a couple of seconds at a time.
Is there a way you can choose what you want to see? As a fighter pilot i want to see primarily a) enemy fighters b) enemy bombers. Secondly a) flak b) gv's. I don't care that several men are running below me whilst i'm trying to shoot down a 109 so we can gain air superiority. Surely i would want to see other things at dif times ie when strafing enemy gv's + men would be a priority.
I don't think i'll be resubscribing, the game frustrates me far too much.
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I've never had trouble with aircraft appearing and disappearing when I'm close to them. What I don't like is the view system for aircraft and how the icons disappear when you change views. That's a design-choice, though, not a bug.
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I played ww2ol from the start for years under the handle "Madness". I mostly flew the aircraft and also rifleman with drcairo's crew.