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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: Eagle Eye on June 18, 2006, 09:12:45 PM
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Hoorachi along with a few other Rooks have used 200 several times to give out info on Buffs/Goons(Yes in FT) But thats a diffrent nut to crack.
I feel squad/direct and any other cross country commo should be limited to salutes. I also feel that direct commo between any 2 ppl on opp sides should be banned.
It is frustrating to get mission together just so some arse can blair it out. on 200. or to a friend all private.:mad:
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Enigma?
Purple?
We all hate it but spying is a fact of war.
OK...it's not war. It's just a game.
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I'm not sympathetic to people who go out of their way to ruin my fun just for the sake of ruining it. And given the strategic layout of the map at the time the LCA started their griefing, they are either a bunch of strategic idiots, or were in fact attacking the FT bases for the sole reason of ruining my fun. I'm thinking it was the latter, although I won't rule out any possibilities.
Launch a mission to anywhere else and you really don't have this problem. Hoarach, or any furballer for that matter, could care less if you take any other base. Launch one against a FT area that many from all countries are enjoying, and you are going to find a situation exactly like happened tonight - all three countries, even the mission's own one, cooperating to end that mission, so that we can all go back to having our own fun, in our own little corner, not intruding on your's.
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Originally posted by Eagle Eye
Hoorachi along with a few other Rooks have used 200 several times to give out info on Buffs/Goons(Yes in FT) But thats a diffrent nut to crack.
I feel squad/direct and any other cross country commo should be limited to salutes. I also feel that direct commo between any 2 ppl on opp sides should be banned.
It is frustrating to get mission together just so some arse can blair it out. on 200. or to a friend all private.:mad:
Well don't be a griefer and you won't get grief.
Simple really, you reap what you sew.
Big <> to Hoarach for keeping fighter town.. fighter town.
Bronk
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I would have used channel 200 or PMs to report your 'secret mission' as well. Why should you be allowed to ruin the fun of countless others and not expect to have the table turned on you?
On a 512 x 512 map there's hundreds of other bases you could 'roll a mission' to, many of them unpopulated.
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Originally posted by Bronk
Well don't be a griefer and you won't get grief.
100% agree. The only reason to try to take a base in FT is to try to rain on other people's good time and impose your will upon others in the game, including many of your own countrymen. You guys got what you deserved and I hope you continue to do so till you get a clue.
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OK so if im furballing or gv fighting and anyone tries to take base i'll be sure to report thier missions. So to repeat it YOU REAP WHAT YOU SEW IN OTHER WORDS YOU AND YOUR SQUADS SQUAD NIGHTS ARE $CREWED
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You are missing the point, and if you haven't gotten it by now I don't think you will.
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Originally posted by Eagle Eye
OK so if im furballing or gv fighting and anyone tries to take base i'll be sure to report thier missions. So to repeat it YOU REAP WHAT YOU SEW IN OTHER WORDS YOU AND YOUR SQUADS SQUAD NIGHTS ARE $CREWED
[SIZE=8]hahahahahaa[/SIZE]
Evidently you can't read .
Bruno's post says it well.
Nuff said .
Bronk
Edit:Here is what he said incase you missed it.
On a 512 x 512 map there's hundreds of other bases you could 'roll a mission' to, many of them unpopulated.
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Simple point you want to play ur way but I have to play your way too NOT GONNA HAPPEN!!!!
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Originally posted by Eagle Eye
OK so if im furballing or gv fighting and anyone tries to take base i'll be sure to report thier missions. So to repeat it YOU REAP WHAT YOU SEW IN OTHER WORDS YOU AND YOUR SQUADS SQUAD NIGHTS ARE $CREWED
Actually I'd be happy to have you report where I am...finding guys who
won't tuck tail before the first merge would be great! :aok
P.S. What do I reap if I only needlepoint?
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Originally posted by Eagle Eye
Simple point you want to play ur way but I have to play your way too NOT GONNA HAPPEN!!!!
You can play any way you want . But don't whine when the people you piss off shut you down. Because guess what they want to play their way.
Ohh have a nice day.
Bronk
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If you only needlepoint then you can't quite reap. You probably just rap... Rap what you needlepoint
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Originally posted by Rino
P.S. What do I reap if I only needlepoint?
Bloody fingertips.:D
Bronk
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Originally posted by Eagle Eye
I feel squad/direct and any other cross country commo should be limited to salutes. I also feel that direct commo between any 2 ppl on opp sides should be banned.
If this happens and you're going to insist on destroying Fightertown, I'll donate Ventrilo server space to allow different countries to coordinate ways to prevent it.
Go milk run the other 100 bases on the map.
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:lol
I don't think this thread is going the way he intended.
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Originally posted by Delirium
If this happens and you're going to insist on destroying Fightertown, I'll donate Ventrilo server space to allow different countries to coordinate ways to prevent it.
There is no fighter town, Hitech hasn't made a seperate little sandbox where you're free to ignore protecting a base.
Get over it, this isn't airwarrior. No matter how much you whine & kick and make maps, it's just hasn't happened.
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Originally posted by Eagle Eye
OK so if im furballing or gv fighting and anyone tries to take base i'll be sure to report thier missions. So to repeat it YOU REAP WHAT YOU SEW IN OTHER WORDS YOU AND YOUR SQUADS SQUAD NIGHTS ARE $CREWED
And now you know why people don't like L.C.A.
By the way, while Hoarach was telling Knights where the goons were and things like that, I went knights, just to kill the morons flying them.
What you toolshedders need to understand is this map is the one map that us people who actually play this game to and for the fight, the chance to do so. These 3 bases, in the center of the map, has no strategic use, which means they don't need to be taken. Same goes for the maps that has Tank Town. People who take these bases, are people who are being asinine, self-indulgent, morons, who just don't care about the true joy of the game.
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Booz....AW was never a buncha turnfighting spit dweebs anyway. They were bottom of the food chain there, remember?
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Originally posted by PK1Mw
People who take these bases, are people who are being asinine, self-indulgent, morons, who just don't care about the true joy of the game.
Holland felt that way when Germany rolled through.
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I have no problems with people who want to take bases. But there is NO reason to take "TT" and "FT" bases. They serve no purpose other than to go out and fight. They're almost 2 sectors away from the nearest bases.
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Originally posted by PK1Mw
I have no problems with people who want to take bases. But there is NO reason to take "TT" and "FT" bases. They serve no purpose other than to go out and fight. They're almost 2 sectors away from the nearest bases.
But defending them is beyond fighting for them?
There are no protected "TT" or "FT" bases. If Hitech wanted them to be, he'd have made it so.
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I take it the inevitable "mission to take Fighter Town" reared it's ugly head again.
Quick off the mark as always Tin.
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Originally posted by Rino
Actually I'd be happy to have you report where I am...finding guys who
won't tuck tail before the first merge would be great! :aok
Seconded. 'Course, you all could just ask ;)
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How can you defend something when you got window licking hangar killing dweebs taking out everything in site from 25k+?
There should not even be an issue about taking these bases, anyone who wants to do this is like Vudak said:
And given the strategic layout of the map at the time the LCA started their griefing, they are either a bunch of strategic idiots, or were in fact attacking the FT bases for the sole reason of ruining my fun. I'm thinking it was the latter, although I won't rule out any possibilities.
Either way, it's lame, and its BS.
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Trying to steal bases in fighter town is the only quicker way to make enemys then being me and posting on the bbs...lol...
Like someone said earlier...There are 100+ other bases for you to launch your "secret" missions from...Odds are that your goon would have been gang banged by 20 LA7's and Spit16's anyways, but most of us are not willing to take that chance...Allthough its not official, not capturing bases in fighter town has become an unofficial rule written in by the majority of the community...Sorry bud, but this has become an accepted norm to 95% of us in AH and your not going to ruin our fun...
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Originally posted by PK1Mw
How can you defend something when you got window licking hangar killing dweebs taking out everything in site from 25k+?
I've been to 30k to kill them when I cared. Either you care enough to do something about it or you don't.
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:lol
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I don't think there should be un-restricted comms between different countries players either.
I find it happening on the knight side with new players who think they're going to get a cookie or something when they go find the hidden cv after we take a port.
I'd rather not have a win if I have to get it that way. And the people who equate it to real world spying are giving too much credit to the info spies were able to gather; for a Knight friendly player to look at their map & tell a Knight the exact coordinates of an enemy CV or mission that's upping has no historical equivalent...it would be like Nimitz getting on the phone to tojo & telling him exactly where the pacific fleet was in real time.
I discourage the new players from doing this when I hear or read it, I try to get the point across that they wouldn't like it being done to them & it takes away from the people who try to plan & use their wits to win.
BUT.....the link is there, it must be what the game designer wants or it wouldn't be there. I'm not in their minds so I can't say why it was designed this way. One thing I am sure of is HiTech knows good & well how it's being used so I assume it's fair to report information to the opposing sides as far as the rules are concerned & those that do not like it that way will just have to get over it; me included.:)
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lol funny how we're in the wrong cuz we don't fly to 30k in a place that is meant for 0-10k fights, but the re-re's up at 30k bombing hangars is just peachy. Love how that works out.
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what a joke that this is even an argument....
**** all griefers.
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Originally posted by cav58d
Allthough its not official, not capturing bases in fighter town has become an unofficial rule written in by the majority of the community
Someome post a MOTD in the MA. It seems to me only 50 forum guys believe it, and they're the last to bother to defend it.
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Originally posted by PK1Mw
lol funny how we're in the wrong cuz we don't fly to 30k in a place that is meant for 0-10k fights, but the re-re's up at 30k bombing hangars is just peachy. Love how that works out.
Hitech didn't make any altitude restricted areas that I know of. There was no MOTD stating any fields were for 0-10k fights. If you can't be bothered to defend a field, don't whine.
You're just not as special as you want to be.
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Originally posted by Booz
Hitech didn't make any altitude restricted areas that I know of. There was no MOTD stating any fields were for 0-10k fights. If you can't be bothered to defend a field, don't whine.
You're just not as special as you want to be.
And neither are the lame tards who want to spoil fun of others.
Otherwise we wouldn't be able to speak to the other teams.
Have a nice day Mr. I'm Special :rolleyes:
Bronk
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Originally posted by Booz
Someome post a MOTD in the MA. It seems to me only 50 forum guys believe it, and they're the last to bother to defend it.
Actually I changed sides and spent a number of sorties killing C47s when up until the LCA's brilliant plot I was having a blast trying to kill planes that would actually shoot back. It was a complete waste of my time necessitated by a few griefer's insistence on trying to ruin FT for everyone...
I'd love for someone to tell me what the strategic point of attacking that FT base was... Let's see here...
The main target was the Knight airfield...
The Knights were already down to less than 20 (or so) bases.
Probably a good 1/4 to 1/3 of the Knights were having fun in FT, ignoring the defense of the 20 or so other bases.
Of those 1/4 to 1/3, I know I ran into quite a few names who could mount a serious defense against any mission launched at one of those other 20 bases.
So what was the point? Kick those 1/4 to 1/3 outta FT so they have no choice but to defend the other 20 or so bases? No offense, as I'm sure there are exceptions, but the majority of people in these grief raids don't exactly strike me as the sort of people who like a good challenging dogfight...
Basically, from a "win the war" perspective, capturing FT is about as big a blunder as one can make.
This brings me to my earlier thesis that these LCA types are either strategic idiots, or out to ruin people's fun just for the sake of ruining it.
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Originally posted by Bronk
And neither are the lame tards who want to spoil fun of others.
Bronk
Somehow, "just shoot em down" isn't a sufficient answer for you guys.
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Interesting to see this guy posting about the LCA's cover being blown while trying to capture FT fields....since HE is the one that posted it was going to happen a couple of days ago. :)
Personally, I've never seen the need for personal comms outside country. But hey, HT wants it...so we got it. As for folks trying to capture TT/FT fields...HT specifically did not preclude it. The most he would allow is terrain discouragement (ungodly high mountains). Folks do have to go out of their way to get there and it is an obvious attempt to pee in someone else's pool. The fields have no strategic import. So, you're just griefing....pathetic. :(
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Originally posted by Booz
Somehow, "just shoot em down" isn't a sufficient answer for you guys.
Because until they show up, FT is usually full of people who want to fight... When griefers show up, it's not a simple matter of "just shoot em down" but, climb for 10-15 minutes, then chase the lemming line for the rest of your sortie. I mean, dead six shots are nice, but they get old after awhile.
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why not disable flight from all fields, just in case we might crash on take off, or be shot down?
how about it we have like a trigger pulling contest, whoever can hold thier ho shot trigger down longest as they sit in the tower wins.
if your team gets 5 wins you win a field.
At figter lake on dohnut we should have a task group of battle ships to launch tactical nukes at the towers with all the trigger pulling contestants in.
when the tower's health bar breaks down we all get discoed, and have to relog.
bombs will be replaced by bananas and pineapples and launched from the towers in similar fashion to the game worms. body armour regenerates every twenty minutes in the map rooms.
the map is reset when someone finds a worthy use for perk points and sucesfully spends some.
And of course to eliminate any cheating whatsoever, the game will have no sound, no text coms to anybody at all, and communication will only be permited through using tuning forks and cheese wire to imitate the mating call of a humming bird.
i think thats reasonable to ask for.
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Originally posted by Booz
Somehow, "just shoot em down" isn't a sufficient answer for you guys.
Somehow "stop ruining the fun of furballers" isn't a sufficient answer for you guys.
Ya got plenty of other bases, go fluff it up there.
Bronk
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Originally posted by Bronk
Somehow "stop ruining the fun of furballers" isn't a sufficient answer for you guys.
I had NO idea Hitech set "furballers" apart as some special species exempt from the game, sorry. He should give you some little protected area to furball.
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Somehow, "just shoot em down" isn't a sufficient answer for you guys.
Can't you read? The original poster is upset that folks discovered his mission and thus 'his cover was blown'. He didn't go to capture an FT base to 'fight' but to ruin the fun that other were having.
No one is going to waste their play time flying circles around a field at 30k hoping to catch a griefer. Therefore, some folks will warn the other side when they see folks on there own side launching such 'griefer missions' ensuring that the 'griefer mission' gets shot down. Thus FT was 'defended' by the folks who enjoy to fight there.
The original poster didn't want a fight, they just wanted to 'sneak' a capture of an FT base. He and his 'sqwaddies' are nothing but griefers. If they just wanted to organize a 'mission' for 'sqwad night' they could have done it some where else.
HT doesn't have to tell folks not to capture FT bases. FT and the folks that enjoy flying there will take care of themselves. The MOTD doesn't say anything about not turning the table on the griefers either. If he doesn't want people ruining his fun they he should could not attempt to ruin the fun of others.
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Originally posted by Booz
I had NO idea Hitech set "furballers" apart as some special species exempt from the game, sorry.
Blooz, the point is, in this specific situation, there is a group of people (the LCA or whatnot) who are trying to force another group to play THEIR way, while the other group (furballers or whatnot) are pretty darn content to let the LCA play however they want, somewhere else, just so long as the furballers can all play however THEY want, in their own little corner.
It's just common decency not to try and capture FT. Sharing, compromise, all that.
But if people don't want to be decent, the same thing will hopefully happen. All three countries working together to make sure FT stays FT.
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Okay, okay, FIRST OF ALL: To sow a seed is to plant it into the ground and nurture it until it grows, where you then reap the fruits of your labor (or the veggies of your labor). To "reap what you sow" is the same as "you made your bed, you lie in it" (or is that "lay in it"??).
SECOND OF ALL: If the Knights, on a 250+ field map, were down to 20 fields, and 1/3 of the tards were screwing around in FT, then that Knit FT field is fair game. Maybe with it gone they might.... oh, I don't know.... Defend their remaining fields? FT is not the only place to find furballs. It's just a gratuitous instant-gratification area. Most of the memorable fights I've had weren't in FT, but around contested airfields.
So 1) It's not "sew" -- that is what you do with needle and thread. [*END SPELLING NAZI MODE*] and 2) If the Knits were so wrapped up in instant gratification that they let their entire map be captured, they brought the FT loss upon themselves.
I believe that FT should be left alone, until the end result is too obvious to argue about -- in this case it seems this criteria was met, and the FT base was fair game.
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Originally posted by Booz
I had NO idea Hitech set "furballers" apart as some special species exempt from the game, sorry. He should give you some little protected area to furball.
Once again see my post about HT letting like minded people put a stop to griefing others.
I'm not even a big furball fan. But spoiling the fun of others on the one map in the set where the fuball is easiest .... that's just lame and griefing.
If you can't see that I'm sorry for you. You are just as bad as the guys who want the furball and nothing else. You sir are the epitome of play my way or else crowd.
Have a nice day Mr. I'm Special.
Bronk
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Vludak,
My point is, all players all playing according to the boundaries of the game. If there's some group of players that thinks they are exempt, they are mistaken. NO ONE has a little corner set aside by Hitech until such time as it happens.
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Originally posted by Krusty
SECOND OF ALL: If the Knights, on a 250+ field map, were down to 20 fields, and 1/3 of the tards were screwing around in FT, then that Knit FT field is fair game. Maybe with it gone they might.... oh, I don't know.... Defend their remaining fields? FT is not the only place to find furballs. It's just a gratuitous instant-gratification area. Most of the memorable fights I've had weren't in FT, but around contested airfields.
I believe that FT should be left alone, until the end result is too obvious to argue about -- in this case it seems this criteria was met, and the FT base was fair game. [/B]
Well, Krusty, you don't have to capture every single base to get the reset (unless something dramatically changed in the past few months), and forcing that 1/3 to other fields is not going to help in capturing the reset. It's just going to flood the air around the remaining fields. And the air will be flooded by people who actually have a clue what they're doing. Basically, a group of lemmings who evidently have no interest in fighting their way into something (they'd much rather fly fast and high above resistance) are ensuring that they will have a much tougher time with the final push.
It doesn't make much sense. So, once again, either the griefers are strategic idiots, or just out to ruin people's fun for the sake of ruining it :D
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I think some of you guys need to choose a side..it gets confusing trying
to work out who the strat dweebs and fighter dorks are now :D
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I went to play AH, and to my amaze... LCA was trying to take FT AGAIN!!
What do I do? Well it was obvious they were trying to take it so I did not rant on 200. I went knights and fought the skilless suicide, bombing dweebs. Soon they were repelled and someone killed their troops, yet bombers kept coming. So I upped to kill ord at 21. I get 3 of the 4 ammo bunks down and then get disconnected. I come back to finish off the last one and what do I see? 11 B24 formations just took off heading SW. Troops are disabled, so they did not intend to capture FT.. just pork it! This time they were heading for the bishop, so I get on 200 and warn them. I up a 190a8 myself to help. You can't really call it spying, seeing how I was knight and saw the horde taking off. But that is absolutely ridiculous to pork FT just to ruin the fun for everyone else:mad:
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Originally posted by Booz
Vludak,
My point is, all players all playing according to the boundaries of the game. If there's some group of players that thinks they are exempt, they are mistaken. NO ONE has a little corner set aside by Hitech until such time as it happens.
Fair enough, but my point is - people don't HAVE to act like 8th grade jerks and attack a field for no reason other than ruining others' fun when there are plenty of others they can take.
With the high mountains surrounding it, and, thus, impracticality of launching raids against outside bases from it, FT poses no real threat. It's just a nice little place where guys who don't have that much time to fly are sure to find a quick fix.
There's really no reason to shut it down.
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Vudak, some of us actually like a good fight. Taking undefended fields to me is boring. I don't like vulching. I don't like spawn camping. But I do like a good capture-oriented fight (that is one side attacking, the other defending). If 1/3 the entire team is dicking around in FT while the rest are defending the fields left, I would shut down the FT field in a heartbeat, if it meant I got a better fight "on the front".
That's just me, though. And, like I said, only once that team was totally back against the ropes and needed to get its arse in gear and defend.
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Originally posted by Krusty
Vudak, some of us actually like a good fight. Taking undefended fields to me is boring. I don't like vulching. I don't like spawn camping. But I do like a good capture-oriented fight (that is one side attacking, the other defending). If 1/3 the entire team is dicking around in FT while the rest are defending the fields left, I would shut down the FT field in a heartbeat, if it meant I got a better fight "on the front".
That's just me, though. And, like I said, only once that team was totally back against the ropes and needed to get its arse in gear and defend.
And you know Krusty, I won't doubt you on this. But I do HIGHLY doubt that the LCA is trying to ensure that they'll have tougher competition at other fields. From what I've seen, they don't like any...
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Okay, you got me there. My defense is that I was speaking in general on the state of attacking FT bases, and not specifically of the LCA attacking them :P
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Originally posted by Krusty
SECOND OF ALL: If the Knights, on a 250+ field map, were down to 20 fields, and 1/3 of the tards were screwing around in FT, then that Knit FT field is fair game. Maybe with it gone they might.... oh, I don't know.... Defend their remaining fields? FT is not the only place to find furballs. It's just a gratuitous instant-gratification area. Most of the memorable fights I've had weren't in FT, but around contested airfields.
The problem is the other bases were defended. They don't want a fight so they climb into the akakasphere drop all the hangers in FT . Now ya cant get there to try and defend like elsewhere. See lamers wanting easy base capture.
So 1) It's not "sew" -- that is what you do with needle and thread. [*END SPELLING NAZI MODE*] and 2) If the Knits were so wrapped up in instant gratification that they let their entire map be captured, they brought the FT loss upon themselves.
Thank you mister anal. Ya its a shame the map can be reset without taking fighter town...ohh and spoiling mindless fun.
I believe that FT should be left alone, until the end result is too obvious to argue about -- in this case it seems this criteria was met, and the FT base was fair game.
Once again map can be reset without taking FT. Like I said they just don't want a fight.
Bronk
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Krusty your next avatard is ready.
(http://redwing.hutman.net/%7Emreed/Assets/grammarian.jpg)
Bronk
Just ribbing ya a little.
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Originally posted by Krusty
If the Knights, on a 250+ field map, were down to 20 fields, and 1/3 of the tards were screwing around in FT, then that Knit FT field is fair game. Maybe with it gone they might.... oh, I don't know.... Defend their remaining fields?
And that statement is exactly why the furballers feel there is griefing going on.
1. We don't want to play the land grab.
2. If we aren't engaging in the land grab, we are not 'wasting your resources', we are NOT your resources.
3. Don't force us to play in a fashion that ruins the fun for us by destroying a good fight.
4. If you follow rule #3, the furballers won't feel slighted and won't be interested in ruining YOUR fun.
I'd really hate to see arguments like this, it does nothing for the community.
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LOL ... grow up
Many people that play this sim don't enjoy the 'game' of it at all.
They play for the ACM and furballs etc..... maybe droping an egg on something now and then.
As for the game I could care less. If you try to do a run aginst FT I would tell other countries too.
I've gotten private messages from people telling me about raids ... in FT and elsewhere. Well guess what. I told the rest of my "team" whatever it was at the time.... I told them about the FT raid. Other raids I ignored the 'spy'. If you enjoy the 'game' I'm not going to ruin your fun.....but by attacking FT you are a total hypocrite.
You want to ruin their 'game' and then whine because they ruin your 'game'
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I'm a dedicated "toolshedder".
If you run a capture mission in FT and you're a Rook, I'll do whatever I can to help stop you. If you capture a base in FT I'll do whatever I can to help the "enemy" recapture it.
One of my most memorable moments in AH came last year when several Rook squads and several Nit squads called a truce in the MA to support each other killing the Bish that had taken all the bases in FT.
I'd do it again in a second to return FT to a 3 country status.
Leave FT and TT alone. Otherwise you're just a lamer griefer.
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Wish I was there for the alliance! Sounds like fun!
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Vudak is absolutely right.
Capturing FT has no strategic value or even a negative strategic value. Those people porking FT or capturing FT cannot be considered strat players. They are either idiots or griefers.
If I see a mission heading to FT I'll give their exact position, alt and numbers on channel 200. I can only lament that killshooter is on or I'd backstab them myself.
Get it through your head - attacking FT has no strategic value! capture something else.
Bozon
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So inorder to secure your land grabbing missions you want to prevent me from discussing and having a laugh about my fight with my enemy? You want to prevent me from giving tips to my enemy on how they can improve their flying?
Yeah I am a bad rook because I do like to share a laugh with a knight and help a bish become a better pilot.
Damn me.
Tex
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1. channel 1 *is* for salutes only. ch 1 used to be the old channel "200".
2. you're saying that your mission has no chance of success if it's opposed?
3. Oh, it was to FT? muhahahahahahahhaa.
4. communications are what make a community. sterile, stand alone box sims are that way --------->
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Originally posted by TexMurphy
So inorder to secure your land grabbing missions you want to prevent me from discussing and having a laugh about my fight with my enemy? You want to prevent me from giving tips to my enemy on how they can improve their flying?
Yeah I am a bad rook because I do like to share a laugh with a knight and help a bish become a better pilot.
Damn me.
Tex
I fully agree. Just last night i had a few very enjoyable fights with Raptor and Skeezer. We had joked on channel 200 and then agreed on two close bases to up.... We kept exchanging comments and salutes on both open chan and private.
I very often banter and talk to friends in other countries. Giving away mission targets etc... well.... im not going to comment on that. To be honest, i sometimes cant remeber for wich country im flying, let alone recall for wich im currently a paid spy. :t (and in case anyone is still unclear - thats sarcasm)
Shutting down communication would make the game loose its point for me (having fun with friends) and im hazarding many others as well. And it certainly wont stop the "spying" anyways.
My 2cents on missions to take FT bases (secret or not). While "FT" might not officially exist, you know youll get a lot of opposition if you want to include it into your land grabbing. On other countries as well as your own, lots of people will try to prevent the mission. I mean, its not the first time this has happened and been discussed afterwards on the BBS. Why wondering about getting the same reaction again?
PS: I like Batfinks idea best so far ;).
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I would gladly report any mission that intended to pork FT, there is no sense trying to ruin the fun of all 3 countries. Sure the Knights were down to almost 20 fields at the time (and I actually left FT to do some defending before I logged for the night), but if people want to furball and ignore the land grab game, I have no problem with that.
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Originally posted by Eagle Eye
Hoorachi along with a few other Rooks have used 200 several times to give out info on Buffs/Goons(Yes in FT) But thats a diffrent nut to crack.
I feel squad/direct and any other cross country commo should be limited to salutes. I also feel that direct commo between any 2 ppl on opp sides should be banned.
It is frustrating to get mission together just so some arse can blair it out. on 200. or to a friend all private.:mad:
Several of you LCA guys admitted to trying to take an FT base just to Piss off the fighter jocks. Too bad your mission failed miserably! LMAO:rofl
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Well then you should all report the LTAR or the FB when they are not capturing bases just contiunaly porking them just to ruin the fun for everyone who wants a capture game. But no that want happen. Bish/Knits are mostly a team unlike SOME Rooks they have Honor.
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Found this in google, seems strangely appropriate
But loose cannons were useless. Sure, you could be spun around and aimed wherever they might choose. But the explosion that would launch a cannonball out of the weapon would so jar the weapon itself, that the ball could go anywhere, and the cannon itself might end up doing more damage than the ball, as it shot off in the opposite direction, flattening anyone in the way.
We use the term loose cannon today for people who function so independently that they are not accountable to anyone else for much of anything that they do or say. They are free to arbitrarily make up (and change) the rules with regard to everything that they do and say. The rules, of course, always center around themselves. In their own mind, all the world is out of step with them. Only they have the formulae for determining who is right and who is wrong. Not surprisingly, the loose cannons are almost always right in their own eyes, and anyone who does not agree with their conclusions, is almost always wrong.
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LMAO!!! Congrats to all that helped stop the lemmings. Wish I was there.
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Originally posted by Eagle Eye
Well then you should all report the LTAR or the FB when they are not capturing bases just contiunaly porking them just to ruin the fun for everyone who wants a capture game. But no that want happen. Bish/Knits are mostly a team unlike SOME Rooks they have Honor.
they are using stategy to stop everyone else from taking the knight bases. you guys were just trying to piss people off by attempting to take the FT base, and dont say you didnt know so many people would get mad.
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Originally posted by SuperDud
LMAO!!! Congrats to all that helped stop the lemmings. Wish I was there.
Lol Dud, I jumped country and killed 4 goons myself! LMAO:rofl
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oh yeah. if you want a different country then you and the LCA can go bish or knight if they have so much honor. lol no one is stopping you guys from going to the o'club. and this isnt about the LTAR or FreeBirds. they have caught their fair share of crap. it is your turn
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First of all... thank you to all the guys who ratted out the mouse weilding fluffers.
booz... you crack me up... I would tell you that... Isn't it the point of the game to ruin other peoples fun and so shouldn't we allways tell the other side on 200 when we see a mishunz of mouse weilders just to ruin their fun?
If it is "fun" to make the mouse wielders cry then shouldn't we be able to do it because, after all.... we are paying the fifteen bucks just like everyone else?
And.... if you want to have a fight ruining mishunz without it being ruined then..... get fighter support.
and, eagle piles... while we are on the subject of expressions.... how is "good for the goose, good for the gander"?
you want to ruin fightertown.... they want to unplug your mouse... you are a griefer... they want to play your game and grief you.
lazs
Public Relations Officer for the BK's
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Originally posted by Eagle Eye
Hoorachi along with a few other Rooks have used 200 several times to give out info on Buffs/Goons(Yes in FT) But thats a diffrent nut to crack.
I feel squad/direct and any other cross country commo should be limited to salutes. I also feel that direct commo between any 2 ppl on opp sides should be banned.
It is frustrating to get mission together just so some arse can blair it out. on 200. or to a friend all private.:mad:
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Originally posted by Eagle Eye
OK so if im furballing or gv fighting and anyone tries to take base i'll be sure to report thier missions. So to repeat it YOU REAP WHAT YOU SEW IN OTHER WORDS YOU AND YOUR SQUADS SQUAD NIGHTS ARE $CREWED
Do you know how stupid that statement is ... you come on here crying and whining cause someone on YOUR side gave up the positions of the goons to the OTHER side.
Now ... in your infinite wisdom ... to get them back ... your going to give up the positions of YOUR own countrymen to get back at the OTHER side ... laughable logic at its best.
Horach and his guys DON'T run missions, and they don't grief FT so good luck in your "getting even" endevor.
Originally posted by Booz
There is no fighter town, Hitech hasn't made a seperate little sandbox where you're free to ignore protecting a base.
Get over it, this isn't airwarrior. No matter how much you whine & kick and make maps, it's just hasn't happened.
I think HT summed it up in one word in a past post ... DOLT
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Originally posted by Booz
Someome post a MOTD in the MA. It seems to me only 50 forum guys believe it, and they're the last to bother to defend it.
Ahh, stats, then it is 50 vs 2. You two represent 4%. About right. 4% of the population of anything has defects.
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Originally posted by MOSQ
I'm a dedicated "toolshedder".
If you run a capture mission in FT and you're a Rook, I'll do whatever I can to help stop you. If you capture a base in FT I'll do whatever I can to help the "enemy" recapture it.
One of my most memorable moments in AH came last year when several Rook squads and several Nit squads called a truce in the MA to support each other killing the Bish that had taken all the bases in FT.
I'd do it again in a second to return FT to a 3 country status.
Leave FT and TT alone. Otherwise you're just a lamer griefer.
I approached Lute in regards to the "Truce" after RacrX had to log. I had just logged on to see this, and my friend Lazer was in the same tower just as pissed as I was. Let's just say, I had about 100+ on 170 coordinating base hopping land grabs, and 2 hours later, both the Knights and Rooks had our FT bases back. I'll gladly head another one of these if this BS happens again. I've even helped MugZ and some Bish get back some TT bases.
BTW, LCA, you guys have more than worn out your welcome. I could COMPLETELY understand needing one base to "win the war", but this chicken*hit stuff is old and pathetic.
<> Mosq, SkyRock, 475th, BK's, PK and the host of other's that refuse to accept this chit.
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The mission was hillarious... even though we knew it was coming, only a few guys got above 10k or so to try to repel it. The hysterical part was half the LCA tried to divebomb the field so by the time they got there they flew themselves into the fighter cover instead of staying above it. :lol Then the 30 B-24's managed to not destroy a single strat on the field on their first lame pass, and pretty much all died before they were able to get back to drop the rest of their bombs. It was hella good fun!
:rofl
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People who try to take fighter town bases should be slapped !
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& you should say "bad base taker"
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Take away 'ch200' you also have to remove 'ch6 help' because anyone on anyside can see that text also.
And IMO, taking FT bases makes it harder to get a reset. You take a FT base those players that don't log off will help defend the remaining bases.
You leave FT up that attracts many people who would otherwise help their countries defense.
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First; the lancs didn't fly in over the mountains at 30k. They upped from 21.
Second; by switching countries the defectors helped bring down the eny. Rookland thanks you.
Third; real fighter jocks don't cry.:cry
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SECOND OF ALL: If the Knights, on a 250+ field map, were down to 20 fields, and 1/3 of the tards were screwing around in FT, then that Knit FT field is fair game. Maybe with it gone they might.... oh, I don't know.... Defend their remaining fields? FT is not the only place to find furballs. It's just a gratuitous instant-gratification area. Most of the memorable fights I've had weren't in FT, but around contested airfields.
Sooo ... 1/3 of the population is having a blast playing in their little sandbox and that upsets you ? ... They should stop doing what they enjoy most about AH and join in YOUR style of fun ... think about that.
You have 1/3 of the population who gives a rats arse about who is going to lose or win the war, but because 2/3 do, they must FORCE the other 1/3 to play their way ... unbelieveable.
Thats like 3 guys wanting to play a doubles tennis match and they need a 4th ... so next to the tennis court is a basketball court, with two guys playing 1 on 1.
The tennis guys plead to have one of the basketball players join them as a 4th cause they really want to play. The basketball guys tell them to buzz off. The tennis guys stroll over to the court, grab the basketball and pop it ... thinking that now that there is no way to play basketball, one of them will surely decide to join them as a 4th ... pretty stupid logic ... eh ?
FT may not be the only place to find furballs, but one can always count on a furball being there ... outside of FT ... it is a hit or miss if a furball forms ... in FT it's a sure thing.
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I asked them when they were upping the b-24's not to ruin other peoples fun.
I was called a "studmuffin" by 1epic1 who was part of the mission that "he enjoyed ruining other peoples fun"
I followed his goon toward the nit FT base grabbing up 4k above him.
When nit fighters came towards me i nosed down towards his goon....lets just say he didnt last long.
This to me is the essence of poor gameplay in the MA lately.These griefers forcing people to play in a manner they normally would not.
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Originally posted by SlapShot
:cry
Do you know how stupid that statement is ... you come on here crying and whining cause someone on YOUR side gave up the positions of the goons to the OTHER side.
Now ... in your infinite wisdom ... to get them back ... your going to give up the positions of YOUR own countrymen to get back at the OTHER side ... laughable logic at its best.
Horach and his guys DON'T run missions, and they don't grief FT so good luck in your "getting even" endevor.
I think HT summed it up in one word in a past post ... DOLT
NO BUT WHEN THEY ARE UPPING I WILL TELL THE OTHER SIDE WERE THEY UP FROM AND ESCORT ENEMY BUFFS TO LVL fh THERE
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Originally posted by Eagle Eye
OK so if im furballing or gv fighting and anyone tries to take base i'll be sure to report thier missions. So to repeat it YOU REAP WHAT YOU SEW IN OTHER WORDS YOU AND YOUR SQUADS SQUAD NIGHTS ARE $CREWED
This is a prime example of why the MA has degraded to what it is now.This guy could care a less about anything but by paying his money to ruin other peoples fun....sad and dysfunctional if you ask me to behave in this manner
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Originally posted by Eagle Eye
Simple point you want to play ur way but I have to play your way too NOT GONNA HAPPEN!!!!
And if you try to play your way and fail... go whine on the fourms. That always helps, and it's solved numerous problems. HTC always listens to threads like this and makes game adjustments accordingly. I expect all cross-country communications shall cease immediately when they issue a hot patch this afternoon.
-- Todd/Leviathn
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Originally posted by Souless
I was called a "studmuffin" by 1epic1 who was part of the mission that "he enjoyed ruining other peoples fun"
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I see Lan0u812 is making new friends now that he is back.
Tardish behavior should be treated as such.
Bronk
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Souless do you have that on flim ? It might make a nice email attachment.:aok
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I take it these LCA guys are like 12 years old or something?
My God this is so pitiful
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See Rule #4, #7
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Originally posted by satan0666
See Rule #4, #7
Does this answer your question Hondo?
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Originally posted by satan0666
See Rule #4, #7
:( Sad, soooo sad.
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i am bish and when i am in FT i wil tell any countryman who is upping bimbers (99.9% noobs) i POLITELY inform them that FT is no place for bombers unless they are just practicing gunnery skills. if they do not return with a message i do go on 200 and tell the nasty enemy (rooks or nits) that a bomber has upped and is on the way. i also ask my countrymen not to protect them.i will continue to do this because we are to police ourselves. have you seen how many bases there are outside of FT? on a side note i refuse to vulch in FT even tho some of my squaddies enjoy it.they are some sick bastiges and i love them but i just dont want to do it. btw,has anyone in the history of AHiII won the FT map?i have only been playing since sept. but i dont recall anyone ever winning the map.anywho
the furballers..this map is the only one i get to be destroyed by the best in the game and learn from it. one week of intensive acm and sa training at its BEST. okay i feel better now.move along
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Originally posted by satan0666
See Rule #4, #7
You should spend the $15 towards a Dictionary. "Dictionary - the gift that keeps on giving." Especially when spelling WORDS CORRECTLY when flaming others.
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I hope, hope and pray to sun, wind and steel that this kind of thing dont ruin the game we love. This much effort to make others angry could have easily netted 4 or 5 base captures for your "country".
To me, its all fun. Well, all but the whining.
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Originally posted by Booz
My point is, all players all playing according to the boundaries of the game. If there's some group of players that thinks they are exempt, they are mistaken.
Isn't this pretty much why this thread was started? Is that irony?
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Originally posted by Eagle Eye
NO BUT WHEN THEY ARE UPPING I WILL TELL THE OTHER SIDE WERE THEY UP FROM AND ESCORT ENEMY BUFFS TO LVL fh THERE
Well, if you do the same bang up job you all did escorting those goons yesterday, I think we'll be alright :rofl
'Course, if you'd just leave FT as FT and went off to win the war elsewhere, you wouldn't have to worry about spies or any of this crap, and I wouldn't have to worry about taking up that piece of ___ FW to deal with your bombers when I could be flying around fighting people who'll actually try to kill me instead of try to outrace me to auger into a hanger.
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See Rule #4, #5
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See Rule #2
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See Rule #4, #5, #2
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See Rule #4, #5, #2
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Is it me, or did the LCA members basically admit that their entire purpose is the intentional and systematic griefing of a large percentage of the player base?
-- Todd/Leviathn
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See Rule #5
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See Rule #4
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:rofl :rofl :rofl
Whew. I needed a good laugh & this was it. Now let's see if I got it right. Please correct me where I'm wrong. :confused:
1) People wanted to dictate how the game was played, so they upped a force and tried to capture a knit base in what's known as Fightertown (FT).
2) Other people on the same side didn't like the idea, so they informed other countries in FT the raid was on the way.
3) The raid got busted up and now those that originally wanted to dictate how to play are expressing their displeasure at being dictated to because they wanted to dictate instead of being dictated.
Am I close?
Glove :D
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okay skuzzy got me. my in game name is brick31 just so everyone knows where i stand. i think i might have said some rude things about fellow subscribers,for this i apologize skuzzy but you've got to admit....well you know what i mean anyway
to all and see you in FT or as i like to call it"garden of eden"when i get home.
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Originally posted by Gloves
:rofl :rofl :rofl
3) The raid got busted up and now those that originally wanted to dictate how to play are expressing their displeasure at being dictated to because they wanted to dictate instead of being dictated.
Am I close?
Glove :D
Letīs call it "Dicta LCA" :D
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See Rule #4
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This one is done.