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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: rickod on August 24, 2001, 11:55:00 AM

Title: HI ALT flight charecteristics
Post by: rickod on August 24, 2001, 11:55:00 AM
In another post I saw today somone said he was having a problem with the fact that the b17 has less trouble manuvering at hi alts than his sleek fighter ,


lets use a lil common sense here nkay.

the b17 has a HUGE frigging wing span and vertical stabiliser and rudder

compare this to a fighters thing wings and small vertical stabiliser and rudder

now  get yourself a small grocery store bag and a big 50 gallon trash bag go out inyer back yard on a windy day and hold one up then hold the other one up which one do you think is going to catch more air ?

bigger control surfaces will handle better in thinner air than smaller ones   DOH!


now that Ive hurt myself using my few remaining brain cells pointing out the obvious   go away   :D
Title: HI ALT flight charecteristics
Post by: funkedup on August 24, 2001, 12:04:00 PM
Yep.  B-17G has nice big turbos too.  So it maintains full power at altitudes where most fighters are gasping.
Title: HI ALT flight charecteristics
Post by: FDisk on August 24, 2001, 12:49:00 PM
That's why it's a "high level bomber"


  :rolleyes:

[ 08-24-2001: Message edited by: FDisk ]
Title: HI ALT flight charecteristics
Post by: Urchin on August 24, 2001, 01:33:00 PM
I can buy that.  I'm curious as to the historical use of B17s though.  The operational altitude of B17s was between 24 and 28k I believe, correct?

At this altitude, entire FORMATIONS needed fighter escort or they would have been ripped to shreds by attacking fighters.  Does the Schweinfurt <SP> raid ring a bell anyone?  High altitude raid, no escort- the bombers got ripped to shreds.  

If the historical commanders had merely flown like the bomber pilots of Aces High, I suppose their losses would have been much lighter?  I guess hind-sight is 20/20.
Title: HI ALT flight charecteristics
Post by: SKurj on August 24, 2001, 01:44:00 PM
Urchin, if in AH we always had 17 wingies in box formation in B17's, and a squad for escort, we would fly at hell 10k even!!

A lone buff in ww2 was dead meat, a lone fighter was too if it couldn't run.

A lone buff in AH is dead meat at anything less than 20k if attacked by someone who knows what they are doing.

I plucked 2 17's outta the sky who were at 10-12k, flying close to each other, with some scort, in 2 passes.


SKurj
Title: HI ALT flight charecteristics
Post by: 1776 on August 24, 2001, 02:07:00 PM
Don't believe anything you have read in this thread.  The truth follows: The fighter is awsome at high altitude and can easily down a B-17.  It's so easy.... all you have to do is approach the B-17 from directly behind and level at speeds under 200mph.  BINGO!!!


<walks to flightline and climbs into a B-17.  Spits on tail 50 cal gun site, polishes to a nice gleam :D>
Title: HI ALT flight charecteristics
Post by: Tozza on August 24, 2001, 03:52:00 PM
Have to disagree 1776-approaching a b17 from a dead 6 is quite possibly the stupidest thing since Mr stupid did somthing REALLY stupid in a stupid car (stupid Tw@t)
Title: HI ALT flight charecteristics
Post by: oboe on August 24, 2001, 06:00:00 PM
Tozza, he was kidding.   ;)